How do I get to heaven? Answers to your questions on eternal life.

mudminer

mudminer

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OP is obviously keen on allowing the bible (gods infallible word) to "prove" his beliefs are the only right way. God, in his "infallible omniscient wisdom" orders his prophet Samuel, to annoint Saul king. Later god REPENTS from this decision (changes his mind, realizes it was wrong) and orders this same prophet to annoint another man king in his place. If an all knowing being realizes even one time that even one decision was such a bad idea that he needs to change his mind concerning it, and goes for a re-do, he is obviously not "infallible". So god CAN in fact (by his own admission) be wrong, his "infallible" written word is at best "NOT infallible" and the basis for the OP's beliefs (that he is soooo insistent on quoting to us) is bogus. INFALLIBILITY FAIL!
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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It seems to me Oldgrowth, that you are extremely scared. And that you just don't know how to control your fear.

It's ok though, everyone is scared... but we all have varying degrees in our ability of controlling that fear.

You are merely in the same category as vast majority of people on this planet.
 
OldGrowth420

OldGrowth420

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I certainly fear God. He has lovingly chastised me severely in the past through spiritual afflictions and other means that have taught me to straighten up my life and live for Jesus. I am afraid of not taking my responsibility to live for others and do my best to guide you all seriously, if i let even one of you perish I cant imagine the punishment i would endure. It's my responsibility to be God's messenger, spreading His wisdom, laws, and love. To whom much is given much is required.
Luke 12:48

King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]48 [/SUP]But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.




Yes, i am afraid of God. Of death? I fear going in a painful way but i rest assured of my eternal salvation. I feel God working in my life everyday, and there is no way for me to deny Him.

Blessed are those who believe blindly.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Does it bother you that it's been detailed throughout human history that organized religions are the product of ancient unknowns and the desperate attempt at answering them through a thick veil of racism, homophobia and misogyny?

Or that the Christian bible has been translated dozens if not hundreds of times according to the ruler of the times opinion or political pressure?

How can you look at all the historical inaccuracies within the bible and still make the claim that it is divine?

How is using the bible as a moral compass more reasonable than using science, statistics, thoughtful judgment and situational context, and more importantly, why would an omnipotent being with supreme wisdom and moral judgment support such a position?


If this was any other subject, math for instance, you would not be taken seriously. You present the idea that everything inside your math book is right no matter what, I review it and it says on page 1: 2 + 2 = 5, I tell you that's incorrect and I can demonstrate it, the only reason there aren't skeptics of mathematics like there are with organized religions is because people have a very strong emotional connection to the idea, nobody bases their life on math.. That's why the amount of people claiming to be non religious or agnostic has been increasing the past decade, more people have access to information and the excuse to not criticize organized religion because it's not politically correct gets weaker by the day.
 
trueg115

trueg115

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It is not blessed are those who believe blindly, it is blessed are those who have not seen, yet believe. And this was referring to the risen Savior, meaning blessed are those who believe without seeing him. The evidence is still there, faiths definition is the evidence of things not seen. There is still evidence there to support our side about Jesus and as we come to believe, he shows himself to us and he has promised to do with every believer. So we have evidence in ourselves that he is alive therefor we are not blind, because we see but you do not see because he is not in you. But through faith, looking at the sign of the cross of christ, which is powerful enough to save anyone. Along with our testimony is showing the case for a God, not to mention his eternal qualities in his creation, showing there is a creator.
 
Nether Region

Nether Region

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Dearest OP, I believe there are actually over 200 books written, but only 66 made it into the bible. If this is true, do you not wonder what is in the other books, and why they were ommitted? Who decided which ones would make the cut?
 
Nevaeh420

Nevaeh420

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:D

I didnt read the whole thread but I'm going to leave My two cents...

I believe heaven is ascending to the next life, being born again in a utopian society where most things are perfect because that race of beings have made it so. You will have a body, and enjoy life to the fullest and who knows what kind of splendor you will experience. I'm sure God has picked souls to be born again in different locations throughout the cosmos, but depending on how well you followed your conscience, you will be blessed to different levels of what you can handle and deserve. I dont believe you need to follow any religion to make the ascention but rather follow what your conscience says. Its good to be good but no one can ever be perfect so do what makes you feel good but do it for The Higher Power and others. Your God has the perfect place waiting for you, but love this life while you are alive. Who knows what kind of creature you will be, but you are going to love it because you and your God will be one again. Maybe God is planning where you will exist again right now depending on your interests and wants. I'm sure its going to be pure bliss for the "saved" and God is going to do "exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think".

I dont believe in hell, personally. I believe if you are a wicked person than God will just delete your soul after you die, and never to be born again. I dont believe God would eternally punish people forever and ever; thats a scare tactic to make you believe in a certain religion. So the worst case scenario, you will just be deleted and never to be born again, but thats just My theory and I dont know what God has planned for the wicked.

The sins that will condemn you to hell (or to be deleted, IMO) is not following your good conscience. Obviously you can make mistakes and plenty of them, but what does your conscience tell you? because our bodies are the temple of God and He is our best conscience. Only YOU know what your sins are, because if you do what you believe is right than it most likely is right. And if you do something "wrong" and you know it, than it most likely is wrong. No religion should be able to tell you what sins are because you know. So how many sins can you do? I'm sure its alot because its written "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God..." If your a perpetual sinner than thats between you and God, but God loves the sinner but just not the sin!

I'm sure God loves us all in peculiar ways because after all, He made us all. It is also written "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts." So we dont know exactly what God is up to but I can assure you its grand. You dont even need to believe in God because He believes in YOU and He will save you from things you cant handle. But to know Him as Daddy is wonderful and I love My Daddy!

These are just My opinons and they cant be verified or denied. God loves us all!

I actually believe that I AM the Song of God and you can read about My beliefs in the thread below!

https://www.rollitup.org/spirituality-sexuality-philosophy/600992-i-found-like-dozen-videos.html

The thread starts off slow, but its whats in the middle. Just click on the link above!

~PEACE~
 
trueg115

trueg115

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Watch out for the false Prophet in the above comment. He believes he is the Christ.

Watch out, for many will come in my name claiming I am HE and the time is near. Do not follow them. said Jesus.

He claims to use scripture but denies God by his works and beliefs and exalts himself above others while using deceptive language. keep your guard!
 
Nevaeh420

Nevaeh420

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trueg115 said:
Watch out for the false Prophet in the above comment. He believes he is the Christ.

Watch out, for many will come in my name claiming I am HE and the time is near. Do not follow them. said Jesus.

He claims to use scripture but denies God by his works and beliefs and exalts himself above others while using deceptive language. keep your guard!
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Lol... Ok!

Watch out!

Boo!

EDIT- What, I cant have an opinion? I'm not the bad guy, dude!

EVERYTHING I have said on Rollitup.org, YOU ALL CAN READ! Read what I have said for yourself!

~PEACE~
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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^^ Amazing find, Heis. One of the best short videos I've ever seen, I actually teared up a little at the ending. Thanks for posting...

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Heisenberg again.
 
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