How do I get to heaven? Answers to your questions on eternal life.

tyler.durden

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If there was one person on this planet whom i have never met, and wish i could... it would be you Cannabineer. It would be you, you funny, clever, capricious, cunning man you!
Neer should have his own talk show, he'd have an instant following and I'd tune in every week...
 

OldGrowth420

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I believe that the individuals who choose to believe without evidence besides just recognizing the truth and accepting it will receive a greater reward. Which is what i meant when i said
Originally Posted by OldGrowth420
Blessed are those who believe blindly.


Believing in Christ gives me daily rewards and spiritual blessings. I can feel your uncleaness caused by your unbelief, and i can feel God's wrath pouring into your words.. Like a spiritual veneer over your text. I sense the subtle things and read the signs. I would think that as intelligent as you all are, you would learn to see subtle spiritual things and begin to understand the road signs pointing to our Creator and His Son Jesus Christ. As for me and my house, we serve the LORD.

 

Beefbisquit

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I believe that the individuals who choose to believe without evidence besides just recognizing the truth and accepting it will receive a greater reward. Which is what i meant when i said
Originally Posted by OldGrowth420
Blessed are those who believe blindly.


Believing in Christ gives me daily rewards and spiritual blessings. I can feel your uncleaness caused by your unbelief, and i can feel God's wrath pouring into your words.. Like a spiritual veneer over your text. I sense the subtle things and read the signs. I would think that as intelligent as you all are, you would learn to see subtle spiritual things and begin to understand the road signs pointing to our Creator and His Son Jesus Christ. As for me and my house, we serve the LORD.
What rewards? What spiritual blessings?

How can you tell you're blessed and other people aren't? What reason do you have for believing that an invisible, all-powerful being has placed some sort of magical ward against.... evil? Bad mojo? or Satan? ..... on you? Faith? lol

We see the 'road signs' you're talking about, we just don't attempt to rationalize them into something they're not.


  • Christians know that when the Egyptians built gigantic pyramids and mummified the bodies of their pharaohs, that it was a total waste of time -- otherwise Christians would build pyramids.
  • Christians know that when the Aztecs carved the heart out of a virgin and ate it, that it accomplished nothing -- otherwise Christians would kill virgins.
  • Christians know that when Muslims face Mecca to pray, that it is pointless -- otherwise Christians would face Mecca when they pray.
  • Christians know that when Jews keep meat and dairy products separate, that they are wasting their time -- otherwise the cheeseburger would not be an American obsession.

Yet, when Christians look at their own religion, they are for some reason blind. Why? And no, it has nothing to do with the fact that the Christian story is true. Your rational mind knows that with certainty, and so do four billion others.


THIS;


  • A man was sitting in a cave minding his own business.
  • A very bright flash of light appeared.
  • A voice spoke out one word: "Read!" The man felt like he was being squeezed to death. This happened several times.
  • Then the man asked, "What should I read?"
  • The voice said, "Read in the name of your Lord who created humans from a clinging [zygote]. Read for your Lord is the most generous. He taught people by the pen what they didn't know before."
  • The man ran home to his wife.
  • While running home, he saw the huge face of an angel in the sky. The angel told the man that he was to be the messenger of God. The angel also identified himself as Gabriel.
  • At home that night, the angel appeared to the man in his dreams.
  • Gabriel appeared to the man over and over again. Sometimes it was in dreams, sometimes during the day as "revelations in his heart," sometimes preceded by a painful ringing in his ears (and then the verses would flow from Gabriel right out of the man), and sometimes Gabriel would appear in the flesh and speak. Scribes wrote down everything the man said.
  • Then, one night about 11 years after the first encounter with Gabriel, Gabriel appeared to the man with a magical horse. The man got on the horse, and the horse took him to Jerusalem. Then the winged horse took the man up to the seven layers of heaven. The man was able to actually see heaven and meet and talk with people there. Then Gabriel brought the man back to earth.
  • The man proved that he had actually been to Jerusalem on the winged horse by accurately answering questions about buildings and landmarks there.
  • The man continued receiving the revelations from Gabriel for 23 years, and then they stopped. All of the revelations were recorded by the scribes in a book which we still have today.

IS JUST AS CRAZY AS THIS;


  • God inseminated a virgin named Mary, in order to bring his son incarnate into our world.
  • Mary and her fiancé, Joseph, had to travel to Bethlehem to register for the census. There Mary gave birth to the Son of God.
  • God put a star in the sky to guide people to the baby.
  • In a dream God told Joseph to take his family to Egypt. Then God stood by and watched as Herod killed thousands and thousands of babies in Israel in an attempt to kill Jesus.
  • As a man, God's son claimed that he was God incarnate: "I am the way, the truth and the life," he said.
  • This man performed many miracles. He healed lots of sick people. He turned water into wine. These miracles prove that he is God.
  • But he was eventually given the death sentence and killed by crucifixion.
  • His body was placed in a tomb.
  • But three days later, the tomb was empty.
  • And the man, alive once again but still with his wounds (so anyone who doubted could see them and touch them), appeared to many people in many places.
  • Then he ascended into heaven and now sits at the right hand of God the father almighty, never to be seen again.
  • Today you can have a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus. You can pray to this man and he will answer your prayers. He will cure your diseases, rescue you from emergencies, help you make important business and family decisions, comfort you in times of worry and grief, etc.
  • This man will also give you eternal life, and if you are good he has a place for you in heaven after you die.
  • The reason we know all this is because, after the man died, four people named Matthew, Mark, Luke and John wrote accounts of the man's life. Their written attestations are proof of the veracity of this story.

The sooner you get that through your head, the faster you can get out of your delusion.
 

trueg115

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Until a day comes when the Holy Spirit actually speaks to you, then you have a witness this world cannot provide. That is a true Christian, not walking blindly but knowing full certain with proof Jesus is alive and risen. The only problem is no one else can see him and no one accepts that mans testimony.
 

Nevaeh420

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tyler.durden

Well-Known Member
I believe that the individuals who choose to believe without evidence besides just recognizing the truth and accepting it will receive a greater reward. Which is what i meant when i said
Originally Posted by OldGrowth420
Blessed are those who believe blindly.


Believing in Christ gives me daily rewards and spiritual blessings. I can feel your uncleaness caused by your unbelief, and i can feel God's wrath pouring into your words.. Like a spiritual veneer over your text. I sense the subtle things and read the signs. I would think that as intelligent as you all are, you would learn to see subtle spiritual things and begin to understand the road signs pointing to our Creator and His Son Jesus Christ. As for me and my house, we serve the LORD.

Tell you what, dress jesus up funky enough and I just may start listening to your dogma. It'll have to be a really cool outfit, though...

www.jesusdressup.com

Jesus Dressup duck.jpg
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Until a day comes when the Holy Spirit actually speaks to you, then you have a witness this world cannot provide. That is a true Christian, not walking blindly but knowing full certain with proof Jesus is alive and risen. The only problem is no one else can see him and no one accepts that mans testimony.
How do you authenticate the putative contactor as the Holy Spirit? What test protocol?
 

schuylaar

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[video=youtube;HVuw1wEuaAQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVuw1wEuaAQ[/video]
Excellent vid!! Reminds me of Bill Maher's Religulous.

One comment about faith..I had a good debate going regarding heaven..heaven is the REWARD for having the blind faith if you will..that's why so many Christians believe it. That's why so many cannot be moved because all their life there been told if your faith waivers you won't be getting into heaven. Make sense?

I asked how you can follow a god..accept this god..for which there is no proof and the answer was faith.
 

trueg115

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How do you authenticate the putative contactor as the Holy Spirit? What test protocol?
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist 1 John 4

That is how you tell if its the true Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit can only confess Jesus as coming in the flesh and Satan or any of his spirits cannot profess Jesus as coming in the flesh. As well as in John
All this I have spoken while still with you. But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. John 14

As you can see, when the Holy Spirit comes, he will confess Jesus and come in his name, just as 1 john 4 mentions.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist 1 John 4

That is how you tell if its the true Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit can only confess Jesus as coming in the flesh and Satan or any of his spirits cannot profess Jesus as coming in the flesh. As well as in John
All this I have spoken while still with you. But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. John 14

As you can see, when the Holy Spirit comes, he will confess Jesus and come in his name, just as 1 john 4 mentions.
There is no test protocol there, just scripture dump. cn
 

Beefbisquit

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How do you authenticate the putative contactor as the Holy Spirit? What test protocol?
He doesn't understand what that is, or he wouldn't be making the argument he's making.

Perhaps if I rephrase it for you a bit;

How can you tell you're not crazy? What information have you been provided by god that could not have possibly have been learned or seen somewhere in known reality?

Delusions and Hallucinations can seem real to the person experiencing them, if you received some sort of new information that could only be gained through communication with god, then you'd have something to corroborate what you saw, was indeed in reality and not your head.

As it stands now, you're claiming the same thing that millions of people in hospitals and institutions are claiming; that god has spoken to you directly, but you have nothing other than the memory of an experience that could best be explained by some sort of mental phenomenon.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
He doesn't understand what that is, or he wouldn't be making the argument he's making.

Perhaps if I rephrase it for you a bit;

How can you tell you're not crazy? What information have you been provided by god that could not have possibly have been learned or seen somewhere in known reality?

Delusions and Hallucinations can seem real to the person experiencing them, if you received some sort of new information that could only be gained through communication with god, then you'd have some evidence. As it stands now, you're claiming the same thing that dozens of people in hospitals and institutions are claiming; that god has spoken to you directly.
I hang my head. I'm speaking in my native tongue, and I need an English interpreter. ;) cn

 

GOD HERE

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I wonder where OldKook420 is. I would've thought he'd be jumping on the chance to post about being a wizard and casting spells before he found Jesus.
 
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