How much electricity usage is too much?
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jonsnow399
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If it was in my town you could be sure what would happen.
charface
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Lol, i mean what situation will bring attention to yourself.
I had nothing to do with the reason those cops arrived
The thing is, if something similar to this did happen, I would have my grow down faster than you could say oh shit, and lay low for at least a couple cycles.
Otherwise if you were to get caught it would kind of be a "well what did you really expect?"
WeedFreak78
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Idiots. What if I'm a business owner and need to transport valuables? Or if I own a gun and want it secured? What about the vehicles that have hidden, lockable compartments from the factory.
jonsnow399
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Doesn't matter, used to be the cops could only bust you for what was on the warrant, no more.
charface
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Im not disagreeing just so ya know.
greg nr
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Under this bill, only after market compartments would be illegal. It looks like it's stuck in committee; hopefully it dies there.
When did we get rid of the 4th amendment?
But neither of those situations even had a warrant so that point is moot.
No matter what at that point though youre pretty well fucked and better lawyer up fast for any hope.
Again, not what the OP was asking about.
jonsnow399
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I had a similar situation about 10 yrs ago. I have two houses and I moved from the smaller to the bigger and I figured I'd just use the smaller one to grow in. Well, a couple months later I found a electric representative nosing around. I asked him what was the problem? He said "We're investigating a power surge" Then proceeded to ask about who lived there and why was the meter spinning so fast. I told him my son was running a electric heater and a lot of computer equipment and then he left. Probably nothing was going to come of it, but I got the wife and we moved everything pronto. I lost my Cindy and Silver Spice.
jonsnow399
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Good to know, I don't care if any one takes this stuff serious or not, but the consequences or too great to take chances. I continue because I only run a small grow so the chances of them busting me for electricity use is about zero. I was thinking a while back about tripling it, but with the situation the way it is and my location, you'd have to be nuts to do so.
Better safe than sorry.I had a similar situation about 10 yrs ago. I have two houses and I moved from the smaller to the bigger and I figured I'd just use the smaller one to grow in. Well, a couple months later I found a electric representative nosing around. I asked him what was the problem? He said "We're investigating a power surge" Then proceeded to ask about who lived there and why was the meter spinning so fast. I told him my son was running a electric heater and a lot of computer equipment and then he left. Probably nothing was going to come of it, but I got the wife and we moved everything pronto. I lost my Cindy and Silver Spice.
It does go back to the idea though that they are more likely going to question you about it personally before just sending info onto the cops and having the cops knocking on the door as your first indication anything is up.
WeedFreak78
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October 26, 2001 with the implementation of the Patriot Act.
Different types of loads have different signatures, an inductive load such as a motor has different characteristics to a similar sized load if incandescent lighting as an example. These differences, provided the smart meter is rigged to register and record such things, can be collected and used to distinguish between different appliances.
So although your heater and microwave use 1000w there will be differences due to one having a heating element and the other using a different conversion of energy. You'll only see "1000w", but the leccy company can set all sorts of things of which you know nothing about which can tell them, to a degree, what is being used when. They won't, for example, know if that 200w of quantum board is a grow light or several LED lights around the house being left on all the time for whatever reason, especially if you run your grow lights at night when plenty people leave a load of lights on, inside and out, during that period for various reasons.
justugh
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dependiung where u live and what plan u are on
when i was in maryland they would show a graft chart of what was used in the last 12 months and a second chart vs our usage to that time last year and they would show avg use of our neighbors
(say the least 3 times more then the neighbors when i was all Hid lights)
yes it is a factor in getting a warrant to come in but this use alone can not be used against u ( simple order some high in computer gear that alone gives u deniability just do it one time do not spend money u can not explain with legal means )
after that u are good .......u can say u are running a server farm from your place for extra cash or selling off your processor usage for the cloud
if u have other factors like
1 trash has plant materials or feed bottles or something linked to production of smoke......(once your trash is at curb it is public domain and they do not need anything to search it to find something to get a warrant into the house )
2 u are making large buys well outside your legal money outcome ( doing it once for a tv and a good gaming computer is fine ....it buying a car then spending 50k on gear that is noticeable)
3 foot traffic to your house is abnormal.......meaning vs the area and time of day how many ppl pass in and out of house how long are they there for ( honestly a hermits life when it comes to your home grow away is best choice a select few and always have them out of there before 10pm )
4 your phone traffic (taps to listen are easy ) so just a simple code made up from the slang of the area ( have seen jon son of a bitch owes me a drink ...........jon and drink is the key words it meant to me someone was wanting to re up and meet them at the bar for hand off.......so u say back fuck the asshole man i will get u drunk (bars name at this time)........means yah i can help meet u here at this time ........if u can not help out at that time u say i will pass the msg on to jon but might be a day or 3 before i see him ) ......to someone listening it is normal bullshit to the person u set up with u got set up
or
u get the burner phone use it for 3 months and then ditch and get a new one (sim card and number and phone) ( making sure u spoof the GPS in the system so it reads u to be where u are not) .....and keep all calls short that phone is biz only
thumper60
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shit don't look now the sky is falling lol
jonsnow399
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give it time
Another point to be made here is that grow rooms arent illegal by themselves, even if a smart meter could tell the electric company the exact fucking brand name of your lights and fans and shit thats not enough cause for a warrant, plenty of people have indoor gardens that are just for everyday plants/veggies.. So as others have suggested: id be more worried about someone ratting than my electric usage.
greg nr
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Depends on where you are. I'm sure I've heard of cases where people were charged for having paraphenalia associted with cannabis production.
In any case, they aren't convicting you over it, they are using it to get a warrant. What's the harm of a search if you have nothing to hide they say....... They just need to convince a judge that there is enough credible information to show that you are likely to be growing. It doesn't take much.