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[Return of the Spork]

if you can drink your water..... so can your plants.

Yeah, I can drink the water, but I don't. So maybe I am picky but since I don't want to drink it, I don't want my babies to drink it either.

Of course you can grow great without it, but my R/O setup was a $120 dollar one from Lowes, and in my opinion it has paid for itself many times over.

Everyone's mileage will vary, but in my case the difference between tap and r/o was a salty film buildup.

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Anyone have any good chain stores that would sell cheap humidistats? Or good online places? I found a few but the options seem a bit limited for some reason. Trying to put the finishing touches on the new drying box and want to use humidity to ensure a very slow but safe dry.

 

[LoudBlunts]

Yeah, I can drink the water, but I don't. So maybe I am picky but since I don't want to drink it, I don't want my babies to drink it either.

Of course you can grow great without it, but my R/O setup was a $120 dollar one from Lowes, and in my opinion it has paid for itself many times over.

Everyone's mileage will vary, but in my case the difference between tap and r/o was a salty film buildup.

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um you do realize im probably one of the most anal persons about my water, right?

not only do i have a R/O filter (ultra pure @ 000ppms), i have UV sterilizers and all kinda gadgetry.

my comment and post was just a general opinion of mines not directed at anyone but only in general and to let noobs know you dont NEED r/o water.

sometimes noobs get overwhelmed by the 'needed' equipment.

with the word 'needed' being very relative

 

[Return of the Spork]

my comment and post was just a general opinion of mines not directed at anyone but only in general and to let noobs know r/o can make all the difference if it had been overlooked

fixed for me


I am not a spark-bug either

 

[LoudBlunts]

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[doktorgreenthumb420]

thanks loudblunts your infor is very useful ..so you are sayin i should cut back nutes in veg ...cause that is wher i am havin troubles ...actually my bloom room does excellent ...

mainly i just hate puttin vegging plants in to bloom because i have to pull em out of lockup

i would like to be able to veg em a little longer so i wont have to grow like 80 plants per 4x4 tray ...if i could veg em longer i could cut that number in half and maybe have like 40 per 4x4 tray

i have a rainforest system that gets em veggin fast as hell ...only problem is it is a 6 site rainforest and my main medium for my trays is coco not hydroton like the rainforest

i will keep you all posted on how this is goin tho and ty agin for all the info guys

 

[LoudBlunts]

any time your tap water ppm starting is high you will want to decrease nute load by at least half

and work your way up.

 

[Thundercat]

MY vote is still to go the the store and fill up bottles at one of those machines. It sucks hauling water, but I had to do the same thing. My water was at about 400ppm, of who knows what in it. After I switched to cleaner water, about 80ppm, the plants started growing much faster. Its cheap to do, just a pain to haul a ton of water.

 

[Greyskull]

any time your tap water ppm starting is high you will want to decrease nute load by at least half

and work your way up.

my "filtered hose water" comes out at 385ppm. i run my ntes at 50% strength, which, coinicedentally happens to put me right in the reccommended PPM range....

 

[LoudBlunts]

see? perfect!

 

[DeweyKox]

I add what ever ML the chart says for H&G which is about 150ML of A&B (300ML total) and my PPM goes from 300-400 to 1500-1600 which seems to be just right. I tried 1800-1900 but in 2 weeks showed some slight burning on the tip of the large fan leafs. So I backed down to 1400-1500 which I take it 1500PPM is the sweet spot in my system for the strains I grow! I use tap water with my setup, should I need to Add CalMag? What are types of additives that H202 does not agree with? I forgot.........

 

[LoudBlunts]

if the plant aint asking for cal/mag, dont give it to her....

you'll know if you need cal/mag...rust spots





h2o2 will oxidize any bacteria, beneficial or harmful, period.

 

[DeweyKox]

Hmm, So I guess I should not be using it with Bud XL and Multi- Zyme huh? If it kills bacteria, will it kill my good enzymes and what not?

 

[GypsyBush]

Hmm, So I guess I should not be using it with Bud XL and Multi- Zyme huh? If it kills bacteria, will it kill my good enzymes and what not?

H2O2 should be restricted to Chemical fertilizers ONLY...

It will kill ALL micro-organisms...

Sterelizing the solution is it's function...

Anything alive in there will die...

 

[DeweyKox]

We'll I believe House And Garden is Chemical not Organic. But there additives is what I am speaking about.

 

[sparkafire]

Hello brothers of bud love,

The conversation about water is one that can be as confusing as which nutes to use. LB had a great comment about Newbs getting over whelmed with wants and needs.

For my new brothers of bud my experience with H20 is this, if you can drink it grow in it. If you start out at 3 or 4 hundred PPM remember that number is a multiple of many micro nutes and really nothing that i even accounted for. I run my PPM meter maxed out all the time in fact once i got dialed in i stopped using all together because my tubs,nutes and schedule was the same. Dewey found that he had to back off but i think that is stain dependent.

Concentrate on the bigger issues first off. Make sure yeou can clone. If you have trouble cloning you will have gaps in your grow and that sucks to see big gaps in between cycles especially when your set up to go big and you cant clone to save your life. ASk bugs about this LOL Temps are another one to get dialed in along with your preferred nute mix. I always recommend go as simple as possible until you have your system working good and then start messing with more complex shit. The less you have to worry about the more successful you will be.

Good luck to the new brothers of bud

Peace

Sparky the love Bud.

Has anyone seen or heard from brother Bugs?

 

[DeweyKox]

Thanks spark, nothing at all from bugs lately huh? IDK

 

[GypsyBush]

Oh Shit!!!

lol... sorry Dewey I am not familiar with your products.. but if it is organic, H2O2 will kill it...

Hi Sparky!

 

[onthedl0008]

Hello brothers of bud love,

The conversation about water is one that can be as confusing as which nutes to use. LB had a great comment about Newbs getting over whelmed with wants and needs.

For my new brothers of bud my experience with H20 is this, if you can drink it grow in it. If you start out at 3 or 4 hundred PPM remember that number is a multiple of many micro nutes and really nothing that i even accounted for. I run my PPM meter maxed out all the time in fact once i got dialed in i stopped using all together because my tubs,nutes and schedule was the same. Dewey found that he had to back off but i think that is stain dependent.

Concentrate on the bigger issues first off. Make sure yeou can clone. If you have trouble cloning you will have gaps in your grow and that sucks to see big gaps in between cycles especially when your set up to go big and you cant clone to save your life. ASk bugs about this LOL Temps are another one to get dialed in along with your preferred nute mix. I always recommend go as simple as possible until you have your system working good and then start messing with more complex shit. The less you have to worry about the more successful you will be.

Good luck to the new brothers of bud

Peace

Sparky the love Bud.

Has anyone seen or heard from brother Bugs?

Genius sir. Much info in the above post had to bump it real fast. Been having problems with running my kush at higher PPM. Had to knock um down.
On the other hand. Some strains like to be abused.
Particularly the fast finishers and resin developers.
Believe it or not guys. Ive been supplementing Cal-mag on some of my girls 3:1 to my back bone bloom nutes. Calmag consists of mainly micronutes.. It on the label. My kush doesnt like it but My diesel loves it.

Like Spark said.. Play with ur nutes and find the medium. Ur Ph will stabilize when they have what they need.
All this is very much so dependant on strain.
Good stuff spark.

 

[GypsyBush]

Well, freak outs apart...lol..

Time for an update...

Indicas @ 6 weeks...

Satvas @ 6 weeks...

The Op...

What do you think?

 

[onthedl0008]

LOL man how did u do all that with a jacked up foot haha. Looks excellent GB.Kinda like a masterpiece.