Hydroponic Perpetual Grow Community

[sparkafire]

This is a thread for those who want to grow or are currently growing in a Hydroponic Perpetual Garden.

(This is only my definitions but for this thread it is the type of grow that we are talking about and I am sure many of you call your grow many things but here are the the thread only definitions.)

Perpetual Garden A grower that is applying a perpetual system to his grow has a grow room and a mother room. The grower puts clones straight into flower and typically harvests only the cola every 2 weeks. It is rarely done in soil.

If you want to know what a true perpetual harvest looks like please go to this link https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/6592-get-harvest-every-2-weeks.html

SOG
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SCROG

Is a training method using growth control that allows one to shape their canopy. Tying, bending, crimping and topping and use of screens and nets are all conventional indoor training methods. Training fewer plants so each can cover a larger area.Plants are topped to promote branching, as the plants grow into the screen and their shoot tips start to grow through the holes in the screen, they are pulled back under the screen and guided to the next hole in the screen to continue their horizontal growth, all the time maintaining the profile of the screen to maximize light use.​

AL.B.Fuct is a master of this technical and some what complex system to begin but he is ALWAYS gracious enough to answer any and all of your questions.

This thread is for Perpetual Growers to ask questions and get answers for this type of grow and you probably wont get to far asking generalized ones.


Hope you join us and happy growing.

Sparky

 

[sparkafire]

I already have a good idea of how I would do it. I have grown succesfully in DWC and soil and I already have all the space and equipment necessary for ebb and flow tables mothers and clones. I gave Ebb and Flow SOG a shot earlier this year but was extremely dissappointed... many of the plants died and all of them were at least stunted. None yeilded more than probably a quarter ounce. I suspected that the problem was that the 4 inch rockwool cubes may have been staying too wet and causing the plants to be overwatered. This is why i asked for specifics such as medium and how often the table is flooded. Im thinking that i may have more success rooting clones either in an aero cloner or in just 1 inch rockwool cubes and then putting those in pots with hydroton instead of a larger rockwool cube. Im thinking this may give the roots more oxygen. Besides that im always curious about lighting, ventilation etc just to get a feel for ur room. In general i just figured it would be good for this thread if everyone who posted about their perpetual ebb and flow SOG included the information i suggested.

Cool You have some growing experience. Sorry to hear about your unsuccessful grow with SOG. Were you trying to do a PERP also? You will find that a Perp grow is very time consuming and there are so many variables. When i started i had never done hydro before so you have an advantage on me there.

All i can tell you is look around and ask some questions of PERP growers like me and BUGS and IGrow and of course you need to spend lots of time on ABF threads!!! when i started i thought i would copy ABF but his cloning is kinda advanced in my opinion.well not really advanced just very meticulous. His cloning method has to be spot on for it to work. I use hydroton and a areo cloner for clones i have 2 failed attempts ABF style and since then I have tried to keep it very simple you can do it just keep it simple and read and research this to death.

 

[benson]

what is a tds meter,i here its sumfin 2 do wit saving electric,is that tru.i hav a 2 man camping tent,cud i grow my marowana in that.what is rockwool,is it a tipe of hard cotton wool.how much soil do i put i my 5L pots

 

[grandpabear3]

so you and custo m gonna get a room or what?
i leave for a few days and your out whorin' around. i got the neoprene inserts for the cloner and im running it 15 on 30 off ....we'll see. i feel good about this one. the big girls are scary looking. i'll post some bud porn at 7 when the lights come on

 

[grandpabear3]

anyway...here's my proof that imma perpetual weed baron

pics of the op
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ok... here are the latest pic of the grow


here are the 7 that made it through the nut burn. they are in week 6 of flower right now







here are the other 2 batches in flower and a wide shot....well sort of wide










and here are the mums after a pass of cuttings and a vicous pruning. the only bitches your still allowed to beat....lmao



and then there's the clones ....all out of the rapid rooters now so i finally used the neo collars, and changed a few things so we'll see
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[potroast]

Well, I'd say that you need to do some work on your definitions. For example, I have a perpetual system, but since I use fewer plants, I veg them before going into the flowering room. Perpetual actually just means that you have plants in your flowering room that have different start/finish dates. You can have two or more crops flowering, and it's an ongoing system. And many growers use soil for their growing method.

And SOG growing just means to keep the plants smaller, and closer together. Best to use the indoor lighting. And there is absolutely no effect on harvest timing, that is strictly strain-dependent. If you put them directly to flowering, you remove the veg time, but in a perpetual system, it doesn't matter. They are always in the veg room, getting ready to go.

HTH

 

[grandpabear3]

i have decided to do a three way side by side comparison of cloning techniques. one will be the aerocloner, the next will be rapid rooters in a humidome on a heat mat and the third will be albfuct style rw cubes on a heat mat. i'm gonna settle it once and for all for me personally. i'll start a cloning journal and post pics like crazy. it'll be a hoot
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[sparkafire]

Well, I'd say that you need to do some work on your definitions. For example, I have a perpetual system, but since I use fewer plants, I veg them before going into the flowering room. Perpetual actually just means that you have plants in your flowering room that have different start/finish dates. You can have two or more crops flowering, and it's an ongoing system. And many growers use soil for their growing method.

And SOG growing just means to keep the plants smaller, and closer together. Best to use the indoor lighting. And there is absolutely no effect on harvest timing, that is strictly strain-dependent. If you put them directly to flowering, you remove the veg time, but in a perpetual system, it doesn't matter. They are always in the veg room, getting ready to go.

HTH

AHHH point taken Mr. Roast unfortunately most of us newbies tend to spew out terminology what we think is correct and then it just gets worse as it perpetuates throughout the site. I would love to correct myself but it seems my time has run out for editing. If you have the means to correct my mistake on the first page feel free to do so . Believe it or not i want it to be right so that we all learn the right way and right terminology.

 

[grandpabear3]

omg is the sparkster turning over a new leaf?

 

[sparkafire]

omg is the sparkster turning over a new leaf?

Nope just not interested in the stupid and lazy anymore.

I figured that my time spent working on getting more of us on a thread that were either are trying to learn something, teach something or feed the family was more important than getting in some kids ass for being lazy.

But let someone come onto this thread asking a one plant under the bed using miracle grow and bag seed in soil question and you will see a whole tree appear.

 

[sparkafire]

Hey Custom Hydro How is your grow doing?

 

[StinkBud]

I run a three week perpetual harvest.

I run a home made aero cloner. I have a 100% success rate with my clones. I have my cloner under a 2-light, 2ft HO fls. My cloner has 29 plant sites.

After 3 weeks the clones go into the veg system. Another home made aeroponic system under a 250W MH light. The system has 18 sites.

After another 3 weeks it's into the flower room. My flower room has 3 Aero/NFT systems. The plants flower for 9 weeks so I harvest every three weeks. I run 2-1000W HPS lights with CO2 (& controller).

Right now I have 10 differerent strains I'm running. Check out my Journal and gallery for more info...

 

[sparkafire]

I run a three week perpetual harvest.

I run a home made aero cloner. I have a 100% success rate with my clones. I have my cloner under a 2-light, 2ft HO fls. My cloner has 29 plant sites.

After 3 weeks the clones go into the veg system. Another home made aeroponic system under a 250W MH light. The system has 18 sites.

After another 3 weeks it's into the flower room. My flower room has 3 Aero/NFT systems. The plants flower for 9 weeks so I harvest every three weeks. I run 2-1000W HPS lights with CO2 (& controller).

Right now I have 10 differerent strains I'm running. Check out my Journal and gallery for more info...

FUCK YEA!!!!! Now that is cooking with FLAME!! Very cool How long have you been doing that? If you don't mind tell us some trials and tribulations to get you to this point. I know i for one am having some newbie mistakes and any help you could give would be appreciated. I am soooooo jealous.

 

[StinkBud]

FUCK YEA!!!!! Now that is cooking with FLAME!! Very cool How long have you been doing that? If you don't mind tell us some trials and tribulations to get you to this point. I know i for one am having some newbie mistakes and any help you could give would be appreciated. I am soooooo jealous.

I started with soil but only grow Aeroponic now.

Growing hydroponically is actually a lot easier than soil.

The biggest problem I always had in the past was pests. You can loose everything if your not super clean. I haven't had any pests since I went to Hydro.

8 weeks flower time is only enough time for pure Indica strains. As soon as you start mixing in some Sativa you need a minimum of 9 weeks for the candy buds. All the killer strains have some Sativa in them.

Most of us chronic smokers that have been smoking more than 35 years prefer Sativa strains. Why? The high is energetic and there is no ceiling. That means the more you smoke the higher you get.

Flushing makes your buds taste better!!!! I always leach with clearex for 24 hours and then flush with straight water the last two weeks. My buds are super sweet and tasty. The ashes are pure white with a little grey.

CO2 is for real. It added 4-6oz. per harvest for me. You need lots of light and hydro to see the real benefits though. I tried using a timer at first but eventually I bought a CO2 controller that controls everything in my room.

You can't have too much light. Light is what powers photosynthesis. Get some vented hoods to keep everything cool.

Grow organic if you want the best tasting buds. My Blueberry tastes so fucking good no one can believe it. All my buddies shit on their first hit! Their like WTF, that's the best bud I've ever tasted in my life!

Read my journal for specific info on my nute formula. I grow 100% organic. Organic is what gives my buds their sweet taste.

Check out these nugs...

 

[sparkafire]

14 yrs is a long time................ I don't have 4 months into it yet I guess that's the reason your op looks the way it does. When i too started i wanted to make quality over quantity but i really have to get over the first hurdle of getting one done. I am trying to get WW out every 2 weeks and its frustrating to have cloning issues that right now have kept me from having it. There is a 4 week swing from a bad set of clones that imploded because of my carelessness. Lesson learned

I was wondering about the Sativia strains and how much different it is growing. I know i have a real lanky WW that seems to be behind in flowering but shot up like it was on steroids i have 2 plants that i kept in this run and it looks like they are about 2 weeks behind. I will definitely watch and document those plants to see how they smoke compared to their sisters.

I feel i am right there just have to work the kinks out and soon i will be a weed baron just like you and bugs. LOL

 

[grandpabear3]

COME ONE COME ALL, GATHER ROUND KIDDIES!!!!!

I AM THE SHIZZ, YOU WANT PURPLE???? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE PURPLE!!!!!

HERE WE GO GUY.....HARVEST DAY


THESE ARE THE NEXT TWO BATCHES....THE MIDDLE ONE HAS 3 WEEKS TO GO. THE ONES ON THE RIGHT ARE THE 7 THAT MADE IT AFTER THE CHOP. AND THE ONES ON THE LEFT ARE 3 WEEKS BEHIND THE MIDDLE ONES. I HAD CLONING ISSUES FOR A WHILE BUT NOW I GOT IT DOWN BELOW 2 WEEKS.


HERE ARE THE 7 AFTER THE CHOP...4 GREEN ON THE LEFT AND 3 PURPLE ON THE RIGHT. YA THAT'S RIGHT PURPLE


A LIL SIDE BY SIDE OF A TOP COLA FROM THE GREEN AND PURPLE WHITE WIDOW.....DANG PICK A COLOR ALREADY!!!


THE GREEN AND PURPLE AFTER TRIMMING AND A SHOT TOGETHER

MY SHITTY CLOSE UPS...SORRY GUY IDK HOW TWO DO MACRO OR IF MY CAMERA EVEN HAS IT BUT THE OTHER ONE IS THE BEST BUDS OFF THE TWO COLORS


OFF THE BUD STALK INTO THE DRYER.....AND A WIDE SHOT OF THEM IN THE DRYER....3-4 DAYS WOOOOHOOOOO

JUST A FEW BIG SHOTS OF THE PURPLE AND 1 LAST SIDE BY SIDE.....DADDY AINT PROUD IS HE?????

I LOVE YOU ALL AND THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT AND ENJOY THE REST OF THE SHOW....IT'S ONLY GONNA GET BIGGER AND BETTER FROM HERE ON OUT!
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[sparkafire]

kiss-ass

 

[grandpabear3]

kiss-ass

you dont say much but when you do i...well.. i...umm....love you just a lil bit....in a real super duper manly way though.

 

[StinkBud]

I am trying to get WW out every 2 weeks and its frustrating to have cloning issues that right now have kept me from having it.

Check out the illustration of my cloner. It costs about $40 to make.
You will never loose a clone again!

Check out my thread for more detailed info:
https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/116859-harvest-pound-every-three-weeks.html

I was wondering about the Sativia strains and how much different it is growing.

The more Sativa the strain has the harder it is to grow indoors. Unless of course you have a lot of light, a lot of room and a lot of time.

You just can't beat the Sativa high though. Energetic, thought stimulating and unlimited ceiling are just a few of the traits of a good Sativa.

There are strains that have a nice Sativa high and still grow very well indoors.

If you can find the Sativa phenotype of AK47 you will be set for life. Bubblegum is another mostly Sativa that grows well indoors and outdoors.

 

[grandpabear3]

thanks for the info and links stink....