I hate this bitch

Fogdog

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Uh huh.

I'm supporting the candidate that isn't on the take. Gary Johnson is the next best option.

"You people never stop". Funny coming from you.
Libertarian ideology is anything but. It's a imaginary of construct that assumes a "market force" corrects all evil. My alternative if Bernie doesn't win and I can't be convinced to vote Hill Pill is to not vote at all or maybe Green Party but I'm not sure about that. No way that party of conservative philosophers and dilettantes is going to get my vote. Libertarian ideology would have it that social security, Medicare, Medicaid, civil rights, worker's rights and environmental protection laws are counter productive and should be eliminated, not to mention privatizing the military, education and transportation systems. Not an alternative to Bernie. I don't really care what Johnson says. No way the libertarian party gets my vote.
 
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HarryCarey

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It's unfortunate how misinformed you are.
There would never be a wholesale across the board change, more of a culture change. You do what you want, I do what I want, voluntarily. Big government programs would need to be tackled individually and in an all inclusive sort of way. Community planning is seriously lacking right now and a local effort from concerned citizens such as yourself would ensure a voice for the dissenters. Democratic libertarianism is the answer, but, you MUST participate locally.
#feelthejohnson

Libertarian ideology is anything but. It's a imaginary of construct that assumes a "market force" corrects all evil. My alternative if Bernie doesn't win and I can't be convinced to vote Hill Pill is to not vote at all or maybe Green Party but I'm not sure about that. No way that party of conservative philosophers and dilettantes is going to get my vote. Libertarian ideology would have it that social security, Medicare, Medicaid, civil rights, worker's rights and environmental protection laws are counter productive and should be eliminated, not to mention privatizing the military, education and transportation systems. Not an alternative to Bernie. I don't really care what Johnson says. No way the libertarian party gets my vote.
 

doublejj

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It's unfortunate how misinformed you are.
There would never be a wholesale across the board change, more of a culture change. You do what you want, I do what I want, voluntarily. Big government programs would need to be tackled individually and in an all inclusive sort of way. Community planning is seriously lacking right now and a local effort from concerned citizens such as yourself would ensure a voice for the dissenters. Democratic libertarianism is the answer, but, you MUST participate locally.
#feelthejohnson
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
It's unfortunate how misinformed you are.
There would never be a wholesale across the board change, more of a culture change. You do what you want, I do what I want, voluntarily. Big government programs would need to be tackled individually and in an all inclusive sort of way. Community planning is seriously lacking right now and a local effort from concerned citizens such as yourself would ensure a voice for the dissenters. Democratic libertarianism is the answer, but, you MUST participate locally.
#feelthejohnson
That's right. Libertarians don't agree on what that made up ideology is. I can't see myself voting for something that is more like a jazz score where the musician improvises according to a loose script. One libertarian I talked to was outraged that the govmint prevented him from sexually harassing his workers. You guys aren't serious.
 

HarryCarey

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I understand that concern completely. I have been afraid to associate myself with any political party because there is always a percentage of every population that are complete morons. But, Gary Johnson and the message being promoted around him has grabbed my attention. I am for liberty for all, the party platform will and should always be flexible. Currently I'm of the mind that you should be able to protect your marijuana plants with assault rifles while having that gay wedding in your backyard and selling raw milk. ;) just stop telling people how to live their lives. The big government programs are another issue entirely but one that will be hopefully tackled with input from everywhere so no one feels trampled.

That's right. Libertarians don't agree on what that made up ideology is. I can't see myself voting for something that is more like a jazz score where the musician improvises according to a loose script. One libertarian I talked to was outraged that the govmint prevented him from sexually harassing his workers. You guys aren't serious.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
I understand that concern completely. I have been afraid to associate myself with any political party because there is always a percentage of every population that are complete morons. But, Gary Johnson and the message being promoted around him has grabbed my attention. I am for liberty for all, the party platform will and should always be flexible. Currently I'm of the mind that you should be able to protect your marijuana plants with assault rifles while having that gay wedding in your backyard and selling raw milk. ;) just stop telling people how to live their lives. The big government programs are another issue entirely but one that will be hopefully tackled with input from everywhere so no one feels trampled.
yeah yeah, and stop telling public businesses they can't discriminate by race or sexual preference. goddamit libertarians are boring.
 

HarryCarey

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That's correct, the govt has absolutely NO voice in that argument. It'd be up to the consumer to do his research and boycott companies they disagree with morally.

So boring, why are you afraid then? We'd love to take over the world and leave you alone ;)
 

ChesusRice

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That's right. Libertarians don't agree on what that made up ideology is. I can't see myself voting for something that is more like a jazz score where the musician improvises according to a loose script. One libertarian I talked to was outraged that the govmint prevented him from sexually harassing his workers. You guys aren't serious.
What?
I know a lolbertarian on this forum who thinks adults having sex with children should be legal
 

HarryCarey

Well-Known Member
If you think I'm a sock puppet, you're a lot dumber than initially evident. Lost cause, have fun trying to convince everyone else to pay for your shit without guns after u outlaw them ;)
 

Fogdog

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If you think I'm a sock puppet, you're a lot dumber than initially evident. Lost cause, have fun trying to convince everyone else to pay for your shit without guns after u outlaw them ;)
Take my word for it man, I'm really, really dumb. I'm so dumb I argued with a libertarian :confused:.
No way is that Rob ROy
So, what is the difference? Why don't you ask him about pedophilia?
 

HarryCarey

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I'll preemptively ask you what your stance is on the arbitrary number placed on the age of consent?

Someone that is 6570 days old can rape someone only two days younger because somehow that person absolutely CANNOT consent for two more days?

Lol I know you guys will twist this cuz it's all you have, but to be clear , I believe pedophilia is wrong on every level
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
I'll preemptively ask you what your stance is on the arbitrary number placed on the age of consent?

Someone that is 6570 days old can rape someone only two days younger because somehow that person absolutely CANNOT consent for two more days?

Lol I know you guys will twist this cuz it's all you have, but to be clear , I believe pedophilia is wrong on every level
Should it be legal for an adult to have sex with a 13 year old child?
Yes or no?
 
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