Is it worth $50 to you?

BCtrippin said:

Read the whole thread.....There is no website yet....This thread is only a few weeks old...

No one is asking anyone to donate ANYTHING, its a POLL to see what people would be WILLING to do to get pot legalized....why is that so difficult to understand?

RT76 is putting the plan together and gaining the support it needs BEFORE spamming a half ass plan on the internet and asking for money.

He's doing everything right if you ask me. I wouldnt be here supporting it if he came on here with some half ass plan and said he will be back with the rest of the plan and to ask for money..


Would you really want to support some half ass plan with a cheap website thrown together in 5 minutes by some stoner?

These things dont happen overnight. When you actually get out and make things happen it takes time. At least he is out getting things done and not sitting here on the forums every day just talking about his great idea.

I would rather wait 6 months if thats what it takes to hear a real, well thought out plan that is laid out and presented properly and already has backing from the major pot organizations, like NORML, LEAF, or even the NRA.

Sit down, relax, your clearly not planning anything or doing anything to get pot legalized so who are you to judge?

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You seem to be very defensive through the duration of this thread, you know that?

I didn't say he was taking donations, asshole, I said for someone to setup a plan that required a number of people to support via funding, a clear well designed plan would be necessary to do so.

I have read, thanks to your broken record, same goddamed reply for half the posts you've made stating either:
1) RT76 is putting the plan together
2) He isn't taking donations

As I fully understand both, and do not need you to reiterate what you've already said numerous times.

I can do a professional web design in under a week, why is it taking this guy more than that? Maybe it's because he is "some stoner"? Ss you are stating that someone who is a stoner is not capable of designing a professional layout or something?

I understand what it takes to make change and to motivate the right people, so the only thing I will agree with you so far is it doesn't happen overnight.

Did you say that the NRA supports marijuana legalization? Like the National Rifle Association? If you have ever bought a gun, you would realize that the forms that you must fill out clearly state "Is not addicted to alcohol or a controlled substance." and generally "Anyone who chronically or habitually abuses alcohol or other substances". So I don't understand how they can back up something that the ATF has deemed illegal (dug use and the legal ownership of firearms).

I'm not planning on doing anything?

Do you know the names of the politicians in your state? Do you write them or petition to them about the decriminilization/medical use/legalization of marijuana? (as I do constantly). Are you active at any of the meetings in your state about the three issues stated above?

Because, I'm active in my community. When it comes to education people about it's benefits, or supporting it medicinally, or petitioning or writing letters to my local politicians, I am usually keeping up to date with current shit.

How about you?

shepj said:

You seem to be very defensive through the duration of this thread, you know that?

I didn't say he was taking donations, asshole, I said for someone to setup a plan that required a number of people to support via funding, a clear well designed plan would be necessary to do so.

I have read, thanks to your broken record, same goddamed reply for half the posts you've made stating either:
1) RT76 is putting the plan together
2) He isn't taking donations

As I fully understand both, and do not need you to reiterate what you've already said numerous times.

I can do a professional web design in under a week, why is it taking this guy more than that? Maybe it's because he is "some stoner"? Ss you are stating that someone who is a stoner is not capable of designing a professional layout or something?

I understand what it takes to make change and to motivate the right people, so the only thing I will agree with you so far is it doesn't happen overnight.

Did you say that the NRA supports marijuana legalization? Like the National Rifle Association? If you have ever bought a gun, you would realize that the forms that you must fill out clearly state "Is not addicted to alcohol or a controlled substance." and generally "Anyone who chronically or habitually abuses alcohol or other substances". So I don't understand how they can back up something that the ATF has deemed illegal (dug use and the legal ownership of firearms).

I'm not planning on doing anything?

Do you know the names of the politicians in your state? Do you write them or petition to them about the decriminilization/medical use/legalization of marijuana? (as I do constantly). Are you active at any of the meetings in your state about the three issues stated above?

Because, I'm active in my community. When it comes to education people about it's benefits, or supporting it medicinally, or petitioning or writing letters to my local politicians, I am usually keeping up to date with current shit.

How about you?

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Asshole?....grow up..

I dont care how fast you can make a website. Would it be a worth making that website without a properly laid out plan with the support and backing it will need?

I can't say that I know the names of the politicians in my state....I live in Canada, I live in a Province.

shepj said:

I read through about half the pages (granted, every post for about 12 pages)..

I didn't see a link for a website.
I haven't heard supporting senators or anyone of political background.
I haven't seen other websites or any affiliations leading me to believe there is actually a plan that is formed.
I don't understand how you could expect people to follow a plan and donate to a plan, when there is hardly any information supporting there is a well-developed-structured plan.

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All I have asked is that people wait to pass judgment until the idea has been presented instead of wondering why its not happening faster or claiming its a scam.

I've defended the thread when people jump to conclusions. I have also said I won't donate a dime to an idea that wouldnt work. Its been different people with the same arguments so Im sorry if my responses are the same.

Why would I have a different response to the same argument from different people?

shepj said:

I said for someone to setup a plan that required a number of people to support via funding, a clear well designed plan would be necessary to do so.

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Exactly. So until the plan is presented why question its validity?

fryedaddy said:

island green guy...... I'm very greatful for the job I have. Very Very Very greatful. I never wanted to work in a hospital and see some of the sick and twisted stuff. But then I found out that as long as it is not affecting your job you would never get drug tested. I have loved it ever since. By no means is it a bad thing, the lazy non-motivated stoners get weeded out pretty quick. as far as the scripts. I think they are a problem everywhere. I hate them personally. But the same with the herb. If your not performing then you are out of there. I have the ability to see every department on a daily basis. Even if these docs are on scripts I would trust them with my life.
As far as my friends robbery, his possession charge and robbery were two different events. The robbery actually happened first. They stole his T.V. Laptop. And fired a shot at my brother.
But anywho......I see uses for legal marijuana every day.
If NORML had this same idea, to send a couple million "things" at one time, to all representatives and the president would you contribute?

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I guess you would have to ask yourself, would your friend have gotten robbed if he wasn't selling drugs..
It sounded to me as if he was jacked for his shit and money. I wasn't under the impression that they broke into his house while someone was home and stole a TV and laptop while firing guns at people.

If thats what your saying, they that would be a home invasion and attempted murder.

I thought you would have mentioned that, instead of just saying he got robbed.

But no worries, I believe you........

Find in post #239 (my original post), where I said the plan was a scam. I am simply saying that it's hard to say if I would donate $50 or not, as I have not seen the plan. If the plan has the potential to actually change something, I would gladly throw in $50.

Being nit-pickey are we? "my state....I live in Canada, I live in a Province."

It's sad that when you have absolutely no standing ground in an argument besides repeating yourself, and instead of answering the question (as Provinces in Canada are the equivalent of States in the US), you pull out a smartass remark. So if it comes to nit-pickey bullshit... who are the politicians in your province, and what have you done to support the legislation in your province?

Also, on my part I will be nit-pickey and stupid, assuming the creator of this thread is based in the US, you would actually have to donate $62 CAD to be on par with $50 USD.

This thread is full of fail.

grassified said:

This thread is full of fail.

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Potentially, if a "plan" is ever really made, that can change.

Just send me the fifty dollars and i'll make sure I goes to good use. Shit, I'll even mail a couple of letters to the President. Better make it 60 dollars.

i liked how he thought people would believe him when he said he was contacting celebrities and television networks...i lol'd...what a dumbass!

shepj said:

Find in post #239 (my original post), where I said the plan was a scam. I am simply saying that it's hard to say if I would donate $50 or not, as I have not seen the plan. If the plan has the potential to actually change something, I would gladly throw in $50.

Being nit-pickey are we? "my state....I live in Canada, I live in a Province."

It's sad that when you have absolutely no standing ground in an argument besides repeating yourself, and instead of answering the question (as Provinces in Canada are the equivalent of States in the US), you pull out a smartass remark. So if it comes to nit-pickey bullshit... who are the politicians in your province, and what have you done to support the legislation in your province?

Also, on my part I will be nit-pickey and stupid, assuming the creator of this thread is based in the US, you would actually have to donate $62 CAD to be on par with $50 USD.

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Which politicians? Thats a fairly general term..... If you wanna get "nit-pickey" I never said you said it was a scam.


You say I have no standing ground in an argument.....Errrrr, What are you trying to argue about?

Im not here to argue, all I have said is why pass judgment before the plan has been presented.

shepj said:

If the plan has the potential to actually change something, I would gladly throw in $50.

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This is exactly what I have been saying since the beginning...

So shepj what exactly is your point anyway? You say its an argument but apparently we are in agreement....hmmm.

I don't think anyones trying to run a scam on us. There are much easier way to do so. I have some White Widow seeds. There a buck a Piece, 100 minimun. Cash only. You see.

scam or not this guy is talking too big a game for me to take him seriously, while i just logged on to find out what yellow leaves mean, so yea i hope nobody gets tricked into paying for legalization...hopefully stoners aren't that dumb

d2rod89 said:

scam or not this guy is talking too big a game for me to take him seriously, while i just logged on to find out what yellow leaves mean, so yea i hope nobody gets tricked into paying for legalization...hopefully stoners aren't that dumb

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Again, no one is asking for any money. Its just a poll...

shit man! this is why its taking so long to legalize mj...lol....fkn stoners cant get the point of this thread....this is a pole....what is the freedom to smoke without fear worth to you? how many frkn pages is this thing and we havent gotten anywhere....this guy is looking for positive feedback.......meaning IS MJ WORTH 50 BUKS TO YOU....FUK YEAH IT IS! THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT TO THIS THREAD.....who cares if you think its a scam...that doesnt matter....the author of the question doesnt care....NOW LETS ALL FIRE UP THAT AND TAKE THAT TIME SMOKING IT AND EMAIL YOUR CONGRESSMAN OR SENATOR AND LET HIM KNOW THAT ITS TIME TO LEGALIZE...THEN EMAIL YOUR LETTER TO YOUR FRIENDS AND HAVE THEM SEND IT....START A WORTHWHILE CHAIN LETTER THAT EVERY PERSON SENDS IT SOMEWHERE THAT REALLY MATTERS....BY THE TIME YOUR DONE YOUR SESSION, YOU JUST BECAME PART OF THE WAR ON THE WAR AGIANST THE WAR ON DRUGS....LOL..SAY THAT 10 TIMES

you just inspired me o go light up.'YOU JUST BECAME PART OF THE WAR ON THE WAR AGIANST THE WAR ON DRUGS....LOL..SAY THAT 10 TIMES " i hope it works when you're high

If my $50 would truly make a difference then I would have no issues

And I thought this was some kind of survey. If it was going to something like a licence or permit annually sure, the fed's could earn that each year. They could help the budget. Is it gonna happen I hope so. Though if ever they do have such insight, they might charge more like $5000 or more to get in a hurry. This is a nice dream with light at the end of the tunnel. Perhaps they should tier the permits to annual productions, a home and business. Opinion

weed is going to be legalized when it makes economic sense to do so...and by a drug tolerant president...not by ppl that grow...thanks for the rep you're thread is a joke btw

50? how about 500. even 5k. i'm no baller but it'd def be worth it.

The poll question is this:

Would you donate $50 to a legalization effort that might actually work?

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I answered Yes.

Now here is my opinion on why I doubt that using such a blitzkrieg tactic to force politicians and the public to completely think 180* different than that currently do won't work.

This is a nation driven by fear we are talking about, and one of those fears is change.

The truth is I do already donate to a few groups that are working to change things. MPP and other organizations, I believe, get credit for medical marijuana being legal in Michigan now, a massive step forward in my oppinion. The large organizations I donate to are working the system the way the system was designed. If the gov't system was an animal it would be a tortoise.

The thought that the gov't machine is quick enough to legalize a substance classified on the same level as heroin and crack over some publicity stunt is rediculous. Even if every God fearing Christian found out that cannabis (kanah bossom) was used by all priests and profits in the bible and they were all sinners for judging those who use marijuana they would still not change their mind. They might go to confessional and then that is all, poof, forgotten. To much energy for the common citizen that either does not benefit from the plant or does not know anything of the plant and therefor despises it. Ignorance is bliss. Your not taking into account the fact that this nation makes decisions based on whims and what the church tells them to do.

We are talking about the right to make our own decisions as the forefathers intended but short of a revolution, in today's day and age, there is no way to do this fast enough. You think that you only need to impress and persude one session of congress and only one round of each of those politicians? Seriously? 2 years? I think your going to have to grease the wheels and line the pockets for years just as big tobacco and big oil has. The public no longer controls the government, control is all an illusion.

The only way to win this war is to fight fire with fire and give the politicians more lobbyist and line more pockets and scratch backs. We have to become what we loath and turn into the enemy. We have to become a public conglomerate and be larger than big tobacco to win. This will take much more time and money than I believe you initially project.

I'm investing in a smaller uphill battle by donating to already established legitimate organizations that are slowly working the system and making a difference.

Dub good post, honestly, I agree. The people tend to be ignorant by believing anything the media tells them to believe.

The only thing that I didn't like nor agree with was this:
"We have to become what we loath and turn into the enemy."

I think quite the contrary, we have to be willing to fight without doing the same shit some of our corrupt politicians do.. otherwise the change is just something bought and people still don't realize why it changed. (kinda hard for me to explain what I am tryin to say, I hope ya guys catch tho).