Jacks vs. Advanced vs. Remo

I've been using Athena nutrients for a few years now. I am looking to maybe switch to Jacks 321, but have also always been interested in Advanced nutrients. Recently heard about Remo nutrients and have seen some pretty solid results. I've always been about dry nutrients because they are simple, and more economical. Just wondering what everyone else's opinion on these three are? Should I just stick with the plan and switch to Jacks, or would it be more worth my time(not my money) to try out Advanced nutrients, or Remo nutrients?

Another option! Now you can mix up your own bottles of liquid GH flora series nutes and save $$$.

Drop That Sound said:

Another option! Now you can mix up your own bottles of liquid GH flora series nutes and save $$$.

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I use to use GH a while back when I first started with synthetics. I didn't realize they even made a dry nutrient. Thanks for the heads up.

GH also have dry 1 part maxi bloom and grow formulas, but the new FLORAPRO series looks like a better choice. They also have a late bloom mix with 0 nitrogen available in the pro series.

Jacks also has a new 0 nitrogen Part A formula, and more products added to their hydro feed schedule.

The proof's in the pudding.... as they say. Your main concern is providing plants with the properly balanced nutrient solution.
Your main choice is how you get there. You can pay through the nose and use watered down bottles with cute pictures or
buy bags of agricultural fertilizers that make gallons for a few pennies.

If you grow more than a few small plants every couple months, I would look into buying from an agricultural supplier.
All the big distributors make a 3-part fertilizer now, Jack's, ICL, Southern AG, Masterblend, Grow More and GH.

Locally, I can get a 25# bag of Jack's or Masterblend 5-11-26 for $60, 50# bag of Yara Calnit $35 and a 50# bag of epesom for $30.
The only thing I need to do, is breakdown the Calnit into gallon ziplocks and seal those in a bucket with gasket lid and I'm set for a couple years.
The other ingredients are not hydroscopic and can sit in the bag for years.

I've grown with Advanced Nutrients ph perfect, GH Maxi series and Mega Crop one part..

All performed similarly so I settled on the least expensive and easiest to use > Mega Crop one part dry...

Cheers

7CardBud said:

The proof's in the pudding.... as they say. Your main concern is providing plants with the properly balanced nutrient solution.
Your main choice is how you get there. You can pay through the nose and use watered down bottles with cute pictures or
buy bags of agricultural fertilizers that make gallons for a few pennies.

If you grow more than a few small plants every couple months, I would look into buying from an agricultural supplier.
All the big distributors make a 3-part fertilizer now, Jack's, ICL, Southern AG, Masterblend, Grow More and GH.

Locally, I can get a 25# bag of Jack's or Masterblend 5-11-26 for $60, 50# bag of Yara Calnit $35 and a 50# bag of epesom for $30.
The only thing I need to do, is breakdown the Calnit into gallon ziplocks and seal those in a bucket with gasket lid and I'm set for a couple years.
The other ingredients are not hydroscopic and can sit in the bag for years.

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Hear, hear.

It's all the same 16± chemicals. Some come premixed in bottles that have pretty labels so you get to pay Fed EX to ship water around the country. That just bugs me.

I used Botanicare when I started growing and switch to Jack's 3-2-1 after my third (fourth) grow. My res takes 28 gallons of nutes and it costs me $1.18 for 28 gallons (not including the cost of the storage buckets). Given my age (6, I will most likely die before I run out of nutes I have a lifetime supply of nutes.

Lurpin said:

I've been using Athena nutrients for a few years now. I am looking to maybe switch to Jacks 321, but have also always been interested in Advanced nutrients. Recently heard about Remo nutrients and have seen some pretty solid results. I've always been about dry nutrients because they are simple, and more economical. Just wondering what everyone else's opinion on these three are? Should I just stick with the plan and switch to Jacks, or would it be more worth my time(not my money) to try out Advanced nutrients, or Remo nutrients?

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"Good options you’re looking at! If you’re all about keeping it simple and cost-effective, Jacks 321 is probably a safe bet—lots of people say it works great. But if you want to experiment a bit, Advanced or Remo could be interesting too. Remo’s supposed to be awesome if you’re looking for more control over the process. Either way, let us know what you end up going with and how it turns out!

Drop That Sound said:

GH also have dry 1 part maxi bloom and grow formulas, but the new FLORAPRO series looks like a better choice. They also have a late bloom mix with 0 nitrogen available in the pro series.

Jacks also has a new 0 nitrogen Part A formula, and more products added to their hydro feed schedule.

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Have you seen these? I'm considering trying

curious2garden said:

Have you seen these? I'm considering trying

ProRelease™

Our Controlled Release Fertilizers (CRF) are granulated fertilizers designed to be applied directly to a plant’s root zone. CRFs slowly and predictably release fertilizer over time, continuously feeding for months with only a single application! This allows for unprecedented ease of use and...

generalhydroponics.com

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Is that similar to grow dots? GH is really covering all the bases.

Thanks for all the advice guys. I think I am going back to leaning moving to Jacks nutrients from Athena.

Lurpin said:

Is that similar to grow dots? GH is really covering all the bases.

Thanks for all the advice guys. I think I am going back to leaning moving to Jacks nutrients from Athena.

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It does sound similar to Grow Dots or any other time release fertilizer. I run Jack's right now and I'm happy with it.

curious2garden said:

It does sound similar to Grow Dots or any other time release fertilizer. I run Jack's right now and I'm happy with it.

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Used to run the time release nutes outdoors. In the early days all that was really available was advanced nutes heavy harvest. It was difficult to source, and generally only available in 5gal buckets which ended up getting pricey, but it lasted us a good few years before it was discontinued. There were 3 formulas eg grow, flower and a booster. If I remember correctly it was called 'spring, summer, and fall' After a few years we started using an easier to source product called dagda from nutri+, and another product called harvest master. I tried using it indoors but ended up only using it on mothers or plants I was just trying to keep alive without having to do much to them other than water. There wasn't much info on how much to use etc and it was really hot and miss strain dependant and I realized I prefer to have control of my input npk rather than just watering and they get what they get kinda deal.

Jjgrow420 said:

I realized I prefer to have control of my input npk rather than just watering and they get what they get kinda deal.

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^^^ I've pondered the uncertainty and that's mostly what kept me where I'm at.

curious2garden said:

^^^ I've pondered the uncertainty and that's mostly what kept me where I'm at.

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Don't get me wrong that grow great plants outdoors, where we weren't able to get to the site.
Hard to over do it on a big plant, and very easy to overdo it on a smaller plant. That's why I never really liked it in pots.

Jack's 3-2-1 and Master Blend are the only two I've used. Both are great. I use Jack's as recommended for veg and early flower....Then I switch to the Jack's 10-30-20 Bloom Booster for a couple of weeks while the flowers are stacking and then end with the Master Blend 4-18-38 as a finish to harden off and ripen the buds.

curious2garden said:

Have you seen these? I'm considering trying

ProRelease™

Our Controlled Release Fertilizers (CRF) are granulated fertilizers designed to be applied directly to a plant’s root zone. CRFs slowly and predictably release fertilizer over time, continuously feeding for months with only a single application! This allows for unprecedented ease of use and...

generalhydroponics.com

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I recall coming across discussions here on RIU, Sometime recently. Talking about newer time release ferts. Maybe it was the "grow dots", if I remember right. I didn't know GH has those products though. Works with soil-less mediums then, I take it? I'll have to check it out more! It's been a long time since I planted in anything that had the extended time release balls mixed in, but I can imagine there have been some kind of advancements in how those products are designed now. Or more tailored to suit specific crops anyway..

Lurpin said:

I've been using Athena nutrients for a few years now. I am looking to maybe switch to Jacks 321, but have also always been interested in Advanced nutrients. Recently heard about Remo nutrients and have seen some pretty solid results. I've always been about dry nutrients because they are simple, and more economical. Just wondering what everyone else's opinion on these three are? Should I just stick with the plan and switch to Jacks, or would it be more worth my time(not my money) to try out Advanced nutrients, or Remo nutrients?

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Give it a shot with advanced, I'd say.
I wanted to try their products as well, but I never ran out of enough of my old stuff.

I use Jacks 321. I like how I can adjust each part based a particular strain, whether that be more or less Calnit, more or less Epsom salt, etc. I can custom fertalize. Not to mention how cheap it is. I haven't used many other brands, so I may be biased. I will say I hardly ever go above 5/8 strength of manufacturers recommendation. Just what works for me without overdosing. Still learning though.

I've used canna, bio nova, Ionic, hydrocrop and megacrop I've had good results with all of those.

Now I buy whatever is the best price per litre at the time.

Dry powder didn't work out great for me?
1kg dry powder £27 does around 750ltr at 1.5ec.
5ltr canna coco £40 1666ltr @1.5ec

Even in large amounts it's not great value over here: 10ltr canna ab £60 =3333ltr @1.5ec
5kg of powder £70 = 3750ltr @1.5ec

Drop That Sound said:

I recall coming across discussions here on RIU, Sometime recently. Talking about newer time release ferts. Maybe it was the "grow dots", if I remember right. I didn't know GH has those products though. Works with soil-less mediums then, I take it? I'll have to check it out more! It's been a long time since I planted in anything that had the extended time release balls mixed in, but I can imagine there have been some kind of advancements in how those products are designed now. Or more tailored to suit specific crops anyway..

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If you did I'd love to follow a journal.