Carne Seca
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Yes, there certainly is copious amounts of bullshit but it isn't coming from me. He voted for the Freedom of Choice Act. Which supports a woman's right to choose. Keep spinning.
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ginjawarrior
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yeah its always much easier to be that type when your dealing with a weaker pregnant women isnt it?
did you take any vows when you got married eh?
and the best bit is now even thou you forced her to have the baby thru death threats your now doing your best to keep her away from it
upstanding gentleman if ever i saw one
Padawanbater2
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You should be detained, in a psychiatric ward.
budlover13
King Tut
Lol. You are quite the judgemental person aren't you? Passing judgement without having all facts too. Typical.
ginjawarrior
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what you've admitted to in this thread is more than enough to go on
budlover13
King Tut
Then cool for you i guess.
ginjawarrior
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IMO, abortion IS murder. At least when dealing with my ex who wanted to abort our son. i simply told her, "Abort him, i abort you."[/QUOTE]
The connection began the moment i knew we were pregnant. Not an "excuse". A motivating factor
See, here you are telling me how i felt/feel. Lol.its all there you havent denied any of it have you?
budlover13
King Tut
budlover13
King Tut
And it's not even all there lol.
ginjawarrior
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ginwilly
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Huge difference between sperm and a fetus. There's even science to back this up, why make such a claim? It cheapens the pro-choice stance by making us look uninformed when things like this are said.
ginjawarrior
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theres a huge difference between a fetus and a baby too
every sperm is a potential person
every egg is a potential person
every fetus is a potential person
a baby is a person
ginwilly
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I wouldn't recommend arguing against idiotic mythical points from the religious right by using our own idiotic mythical points. Something with it's own heartbeat and brainwaves is infinitely more human than sperm. As science stands right now, late term abortion puts an end to a living organism. If the baby were a speckled toad we'd fight to save it.
Padawanbater2
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Huge difference between a fetus and a baby.
The argument is about 'potential life' being legally defined as 'life', which would outlaw abortions as murder.
You are no more murdering a fetus when an abortion is performed than you are murdering a fetus when you masturbate.
budlover13
King Tut
budlover13
King Tut
ChesusRice
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If the baby were a speckled toad embryo we wouldnt give a shit
budlover13
King Tut
Correct, unless it was MY speckled toad embryo.
ChesusRice
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In her first book, the 1994 autobiography, I Am Roe, McCorvey wrote of her sexual orientation. For many years, she had lived quietly in Dallas with her long-time partner, Connie Gonzales. "We're not like other lesbians, going to bars," she explained in a New York Times interview. "We're lesbians together. We're homers."[SUP][2][/SUP] That same year, she converted to Christianity and expressed remorse for her part in the Supreme Court decision. McCorvey has worked as part of the pro-life movement, such as Operation Rescue.
At a signing of I Am Roe, McCorvey was befriended by evangelical minister Flip Benham.[SUP][12][/SUP] She was baptized on August 8, 1995, by Benham in a Dallas, Texas, backyard swimming pool, an event that was filmed for national television. Two days later she announced that she had become an advocate of Operation Rescue's campaign to make abortion illegal.
McCorvey's second book, Won by Love, was published in 1998. She explained her change on the stance of abortion with the following comments:
I was sitting in O.R.'s offices when I noticed a fetal development poster. The progression was so obvious, the eyes were so sweet. It hurt my heart, just looking at them. I ran outside and finally, it dawned on me. 'Norma', I said to myself, 'They're right'. I had worked with pregnant women for years. I had been through three pregnancies and deliveries myself. I should have known. Yet something in that poster made me lose my breath. I kept seeing the picture of that tiny, 10-week-old embryo, and I said to myself, that's a baby! It's as if blinders just fell off my eyes and I suddenly understood the truth — that's a baby!
I felt crushed under the truth of this realization. I had to face up to the awful reality. Abortion wasn't about 'products of conception'. It wasn't about 'missed periods'. It was about children being killed in their mother's wombs. All those years I was wrong. Signing that affidavit, I was wrong. Working in an abortion clinic, I was wrong. No more of this first trimester, second trimester, third trimester stuff. Abortion — at any point — was wrong. It was so clear. Painfully clear.[SUP][3][/SUP]
Shortly thereafter, McCorvey released a statement that affirmed her entrance into the Roman Catholic Church, and she has been confirmed into the church as a full member.[SUP][13][/SUP][SUP][14][/SUP]I felt crushed under the truth of this realization. I had to face up to the awful reality. Abortion wasn't about 'products of conception'. It wasn't about 'missed periods'. It was about children being killed in their mother's wombs. All those years I was wrong. Signing that affidavit, I was wrong. Working in an abortion clinic, I was wrong. No more of this first trimester, second trimester, third trimester stuff. Abortion — at any point — was wrong. It was so clear. Painfully clear.[SUP][3][/SUP]
McCorvey has also stated that she is no longer a lesbian.[SUP][15][/SUP] On August 17, 1998, she was received into the Catholic Church by Father Frank Pavone, the International Director of Priests for Life and Father Edward Robinson in Dallas.[SUP][14][/SUP]