JigFresh's Grow #2 : Vertical Scrog - closet diy dwc - 650w - Headband + Casey Jones

Damn smoote. Thanks for the info. It is going to be a lot of work, but at least I won't be topping to make even more branchs. Really appreciate all that info man.

Hulk Nugs said:

are you going to have your light adjustable or just in the middle of the room ??

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The light I beleive is going to be stationary rising up the center of the closet... however, I think I am going to have it so the top light can move up and down to follow the growth of the plants. Accordian style.

bigjesse1922 said:

what kind of timeline are we looking at until this thing gets fully off the ground?

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So... we just started August. I'm thinking of getting clones around 3- 4 weeks from now. Let's just say Sept 1 to make it easy. I will veg the plants through sept, through october. I will be on vacation week 2-3 of October.

So hopefully when I get back they will not be too tall... ANY Idea how long it takes a sativa hybrid to get to 5 feet tall? Anyways, I will get back and hopefully be able to train them another week or so, also let them get used to the 650w HID again, before the HPS gets switched in. When they get to the height I want, I will switch the lights and trust the power of Bushmaster (made by Humboldt County's Own) to stop the vertical growth in it's tracks. It worked last grow.

So I would say the earilest I switch the lights would be Halloween. Meaning January 31 would be 13 weeks of flowering. I might be vegging another couple weeks... or the plants may be ready at 11 weeks. We'll see. Regardless harvest should be around the end of January. Damn, that's 3 full auto flower grows... but my plants will be much bigger than 3 times as big as those would be. I'm rambling, getting tired.

IndicaFatnHeavy said:

lets get vertical, vertical, i wanna get vertical, lets get into vertical!

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My dad loved olivia newton john. This video is something else. Watch out ladies there are some hot buns. Both me an my wife were kids when this song was popular and we both didnd't know what she was saying. But we both liked it... I guess that's what makes a good pop song, doesn't matter what the hell they are saying, you just have to love it.

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So I'm a dope and forgot the whole reason for making a new post. To show you guys some drawings of the plan.

The first is of one of the four identical buckets I am going to have. I'm going to make it all from parts at home depot/ lowes/ ace. Except I may order the square pots smoote suggested... not sure yet.

I am going to have a level gague like in my first rez, only this time the top end of the hose will be aimed out, so I can pump water out from the outside easily. I am planning on getteing an in-line water pump, so I can just hook it to each of the 4 in order when it's time for new water. Also I think I will be able to use these hoses in some way to use an extra rez... that's the next picture.

The second pictutre is of the extra reservoir I am going to incorperate for the 11 days I will be leaving them alone. The idea is to set up an extra bucket with 4 hoses sticking out close to the bottom. The extra rez will be raised a few inches off the ground. The level it sits at will be the level the...... OK I'VE JUST REALISED..... this will totally not work. I will figure it out, but it isn't this. I'm attaching the picture anyways, just to get you in my head, but yeah, it actually doens't make any sense.

Does it makes sense? I think it might, but not quite like I have it. I totally don't know right now.

It's bed time man.

Alright man i am glad you went to sleep, you started to sound really tired . After checking out your pics i got a flash of the 8 waterfarm setup .... your almost doing the same thing just 4...... i wouldn't think you would need a water level gage on each of the buckets just one on the res. or you can drill two holes on the side bottom of each bucket one for water level gage the other for a shut off valve that you can plum to your res tank. Then no need for a pump gravity does the work for you. alright coffees done

Here is a link to the page i was getting the pics from ..Waterfarm Mods & Tips .. on this page post #88 is another really nice setup you might be able to get some ideas from...... then if you go to page 2 post #13 you can see a little of another vertical op

There you go man hope i helped some and just didnt take up space lmao if i did oh well its already done hahahaha looking forward to the ideas and ruff drafts

nice use of your marketing ploy in the first post. still drooling over those pics. looking forward to watching this grow!

jigfrersh ..... the room's bin filling up .... we're in the penthouse ... what's ur friggin plan B ....hanging people from Skyhooks? hahahaha! Walk on my friend .... its all good!

I'm a little late but I am here dude. Sounds very exciting man, I can't wait to see some progress. Good luck my friend

holy jesus. you just keep outdoing yourself. this will be really interesting to see unfold. good luck

you've got yourself an audience here... this is gonna be somethin' else

Holy crap. The pressure is on. I really don't want to stink it up in front of all these people. It's good though, because I thrive under pressure, so keep the expectations up.

Ok, so there is no video of "Let's get physical" that will let me embed it. So here's a newer song I like a lot more. I'm sharing simply becuase I can:

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About the grow.. I've been thinking a lot about everything and I've made some decisions. The screens/ plants I can not see getting over about 4 and 1/2 feet tall and still making good use of the lights. If I move the top light higher than that, the middle will not get good light. So I think 4 - 4 1/2 is the height to shoot for.

I would love to buy another 400w ballast and light and make the tower of light even taller. I need to make some money first. We are saving a lot not paying for my smoke, but I need cash to convince the powers that be I need to expand my closet.

I've also been leaning towards the round buckets for this grow, over squares, for a couple reasons. The squares would take less height, but more floor space... I have height to burn, but limited floor space for things like fans, co2 tanks, extra reservoir, pumps, etc. I may switch to square pots next grow when I figure this set-up better. The other reason for going with the circles, is that I plan of placing the net pots off center in the lid... so that I can easily change the distance from the light, sorta. I can just spin the plant in the lid and spin the lid to change location, while leaving the rez stationary.

I've also laid out a screen roughly the size I'm looking at 4.5' x 1.5'. Man... these are going to be tall skinny plants. I will definitely looking for suggestions in how the hell to trim these things once the screen starts filling in. Having grown my Purple kush plants 'normally' with no training, no cutting... I know sorta what an untrained mj plant does... but those weren't the sativas i'm doing this time. Anyways, the main stem will be almost twice as tall as the lower branches, correct? I'm thinking I will have to maybe string the top around a little at the top of my screen... does that make sense. What I mean is the screen in this grow is really to keep the plants off the light, and to keep them hemmed in the sides... not so much to spread the plants out like butter. So being that way I will really have to work with them to fill the upper half of the screen. I have been thinking about this aspect a lot. Just the whole training, filling the screen part. This should be a lot of work, but it should also be really fun.

As for the actual construction of the screen, I'm thinking of using something like rebar for the base. I will bend it so the screen archs around the light making a semi circle. I will use wire a couple times to tie the side edges closer to each other... like a bow, so that the screen keeps it's curve the whole way up. I don't think I will need to reinforce the sides of the screens as the plants should hold them upright just fine. I think these plants may get strong enough to start bending my screen at will. We'll see.

Oh... the extra rez thing... HULK, you have the best plan. I'm going to make little water farm rip off. I think each bucket will have a level gague AND another hose at the bottom with a shut off valve, to drain and also for the extra rez to feed into. Thanks a lot for the suggestion bro. See how well things work when everyone cotributes. This site rocks.

Next bowl for RIU and for Hulk nugs.

I'm really glad to have the rest of you here as well. This is really cool to have everyone. I feel like those doctors in little stadium seating performing a surgery... does anyone have any idea what I mean. I hope so.

I've been drawing more pics, but nothing that would really make sense to anyone else, so I won't bother posting till I have more construction or something.

jigfresh said:

I'm really glad to have the rest of you here as well. This is really cool to have everyone. I feel like those doctors in little stadium seating performing a surgery... does anyone have any idea what I mean. I hope so.

I've been drawing more pics, but nothing that would really make sense to anyone else, so I won't bother posting till I have more construction or something.

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Right now nothing makes sense so post away man i want to see what has been running through your mind!!!

As for the Doc. stadium i know exactly what your saying, this site just does it to us with all the sweet people on here that help out just to help or just because they have the info whatever it is i dont care puts a smile on my face and keep me positive even with a negative or different opinion makes all the difference in the world.

i had a picture in my head of what your lights going to look like i know you have something on paper i want to see it what you came up with hehehe if you want i will throw you my idea your way..... aww shit come on people

WE WANT IDEAS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THINK OF THIS AS YOUR GROW ROOM HOW WOULD YOU DO IT!!

Hmm... Stadium Set up? Saw some good pics in High Times a little while back, basically as they begin to get fatter the entire area fills up with bud like a big sea.

Oh and Trainwreck is a personal favorite. We were gonna grow some Kandy Kush next (Trainwreck x OG Kush) but in order to keep funds at a minimum instead we're probably going to do one Chiesel (Cheese x NYC Diesel), one super Lemon haze (we have to give the cannabis cup winner a try), and one Gigabud. Hopefully it will work out, we'll probably do a thread for that too but maybe only a flowering/harvest thread.

Jig old buddy... have you considered becoming a member of the Bubble Head Gang?

here i am jig. better late than never

damn this should be gooooood.

drummerforpeace said:

damn this should be gooooood.

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Suscribed! Jig you are killing it!

wow im loving the creativity on this sight
not to mention the large audience you have grouped up for this thing
its been a pleasure reading through past logs of yours and i hope this one goes just as smooth

ill be watchinnng

yeah man , ya got a BIG fucking crowd here!! Lmao!
awesome journal bro...staying tuned in for sure

and the crowd continues to gather...

we're all taking our seats anticipating the start of this gnarly project. how much longer? are we there yet?

So is is a vertical or a stadium with scrog? I'm confused so I figured I would subscribe to this one. I've got a vertical coco-coir set-up myself.

I'll fire this up and take a seat.