John McCain......
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mockingbird131313
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A valid point.
tipsgnob
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in this video...McCain: Obama wrong on Iraq, Afghanistan - John McCain News - MSNBC.com John McCain says he knows how to win a war...I wonder what war he is talking about??? granada, panama...surely he is not refering to vietnam..
medicineman
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McSame is Bush on steroids as his brain is gone. The neo-cons would run over him like a freight train. He would definently be Bush III, war with Iran and on and on. Beware of the draft if McSame is elected.
watch da illuminati project part 1 on youtube n also research the bilder group u have nothing to loose just much to gain !!!!!!can any of you please tell me why being a prisoner of war makes you eligible to be president i was in prison for 7 years before finally being freed on appeal but they wont let me run the prison service i admire all war heros no matter where they are from but come on i watch american news and if anybody questions his ability all you get is he is a hero so are all our boys and girls by the way fox news is garbage and biased and definatly racist and distorts any talking point about democrats
desertrat
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being a prisoner of war by itself is not the sole qualification to be president. but, being a prisoner, severely injured and tortured, and to come out of it a productive human being, is a strong statement about his qualifications as a human being. i wouldn't vote for him in a million years though. as for fox "news" they do have one or two straight news shows but their big sellers have become propaganda machines, IMO.
medicineman
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Not seen in the MSM are the facts about John McCain and the deal he made with the Viet Cong to get special treatment.
In 1993, during one of his many trips back to Hanoi, McCain asked the Vietnamese not to make public the records they hold pertaining to returned U.S. POWs.
Former Senators, Governors
John McCain: The Manchurian Candidate
John McCain blocks investigation of missing POW's and MIA's to save his political career. | polidics.com
Bongulator
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I always wondered about McCain and PTSD. I too suffer from PTSD, although mine arose not from being tortured as a POW, but from a childhood of brutal violence culminating with my mother's death in the car with me. (A child seeing someone die has close to a 100% chance of experiencing PTSD. A child who sees his own mother die? Who knows.)
What are my symptoms? For me, the single biggest symptom is hypervigilance. I don't like being around other people, because my brain tells me that it's quite possible one or more of the people around me are enemies. I also really really dislike having my back to a door, and I do not like being in a room with only one way out of it. I relive those final few moments of my mom's life, and some of her most severe beatings, on a more or less daily basis. I've always had this feeling of being doomed, as if there was no chance that I would survive to be as old as I am. (You cannot imagine how shocked I was to wake up one day, 40 years old. I *never* thought that was even a possibility.) This drained motivation from me: why do this or do that, I'll be dead soon anyway. I'm extremely prepared for disasters, probably unnaturally so, because I always expect disaster. (Not necessarily a bad thing, but I take it too far.) My symptoms are mild compared to those faced by many of our soldiers, who end up roaming their homes in the wee hours armed with guns, and freak out and think firemen are 'the enemy' and the like.
I used to have issues with anger, and became less capable over time of dealing with stress. I do have to wonder if a formerly tortured POW, who almost surely suffers from PTSD (publicly or not), is really capable of leading this country. I wouldn't be capable, I know that, and my symptoms are mild compared to many.
What are my symptoms? For me, the single biggest symptom is hypervigilance. I don't like being around other people, because my brain tells me that it's quite possible one or more of the people around me are enemies. I also really really dislike having my back to a door, and I do not like being in a room with only one way out of it. I relive those final few moments of my mom's life, and some of her most severe beatings, on a more or less daily basis. I've always had this feeling of being doomed, as if there was no chance that I would survive to be as old as I am. (You cannot imagine how shocked I was to wake up one day, 40 years old. I *never* thought that was even a possibility.) This drained motivation from me: why do this or do that, I'll be dead soon anyway. I'm extremely prepared for disasters, probably unnaturally so, because I always expect disaster. (Not necessarily a bad thing, but I take it too far.) My symptoms are mild compared to those faced by many of our soldiers, who end up roaming their homes in the wee hours armed with guns, and freak out and think firemen are 'the enemy' and the like.
I used to have issues with anger, and became less capable over time of dealing with stress. I do have to wonder if a formerly tortured POW, who almost surely suffers from PTSD (publicly or not), is really capable of leading this country. I wouldn't be capable, I know that, and my symptoms are mild compared to many.
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ccodiane
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All that to bash McCain.....you libs go too far in gaining sympathy and then leveraging it to "fool" people. Fucking Jersey girls, crying children for the environment, etc etc. Making victims and then pimping them. Pathetic.
Bongulator
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I wasn't bashing McCain. If I were, it would have been a whole lot more evident. I feel a bit of compassion for him as regards PTSD, since we almost definitely share a malady.
I also seek no pity or sympathy. That part of my past is more than 30 years gone. I was never big on pity or sympathy, giving or receiving. That's not a survival trait, and if I am anything, it is a survivor. But I guess if you think that's true, that I was seeking sympathy merely for relating some facts from my past, well, then McCain would be the *big* sympathy-addict, as he's been telling his stories to the world for decades and milking his past for all he can. Aw, poor guy.
Just layin' down the facts on PTSD and some portion of the symptomology. I wouldn't have brought it up, but since McCain probably does suffer from it too, it seemed like a timely topic of discussion. It probably explains his anger issues and lack of control. I was like that for a while too, about a decade I guess, so I can empathize with him.
And who was I trying to fool, and about what? Go to WebMD and read up on PTSD yourself; don't believe anything I've said about it. It's always best if people gain information themselves.
I also seek no pity or sympathy. That part of my past is more than 30 years gone. I was never big on pity or sympathy, giving or receiving. That's not a survival trait, and if I am anything, it is a survivor. But I guess if you think that's true, that I was seeking sympathy merely for relating some facts from my past, well, then McCain would be the *big* sympathy-addict, as he's been telling his stories to the world for decades and milking his past for all he can. Aw, poor guy.
Just layin' down the facts on PTSD and some portion of the symptomology. I wouldn't have brought it up, but since McCain probably does suffer from it too, it seemed like a timely topic of discussion. It probably explains his anger issues and lack of control. I was like that for a while too, about a decade I guess, so I can empathize with him.
And who was I trying to fool, and about what? Go to WebMD and read up on PTSD yourself; don't believe anything I've said about it. It's always best if people gain information themselves.
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ccodiane
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I used to have issues with anger, and became less capable over time of dealing with stress. I do have to wonder if a formerly tortured POW, who almost surely suffers from PTSD (publicly or not), is really capable of leading this country. I wouldn't be capable, I know that, and my symptoms are mild compared to many.
Translation- awww, fuck it.......
Translation- awww, fuck it.......
Bongulator
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That's not bashing, that's realism. How about if he was, say, retarded and I said that that might make him less than ideal as president? Same thing, different malady. And just as true either way. It's not bashing if it's true.
ccodiane
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How long would the "retard" need to be a Senator before you stopped calling him "retarded". Not that many aren't..........mentally retarded.....but you might as well say no women can be President, PMS and all, until she hits menopause, and then she's definitely disqualified.......