K1Ng5p4d3's Cardboard Box Grow (hehe)

I've been using the roottech gel, I like it. Its been working pretty good. I just put about 10 more clones into soil, and under my floro light. I gotta do something with my sativa clones, they are getting big.

K1,
I just got home from the local hydro store, bought a 400w kit, with box reflector, a nice exhaust fan for later down the road when it heats up at the moment with cfl the grow box is too cold! hopefully the temp naturally stays right for now(with the 400w it shouldnt get to hot.)...but if not i planned ahead with an exhaust fan. Got some panda plastic to cover the inside, the store had no mylar. Got some nutes, Ill do a detailed report in my journal that ill start once ive set this all up...Ill take some more pics..I have read a few other journals, but i like yours the most...as i said, i seem to be on par with you so far...although i wont be getting any more lighting for now as I wont be growing more than 400w worth . I made a timber box to grow n this time. Next time im buying a gazebo (about 80 bucks, comes with tarp sides and zip up door. Easy to modify and line the inner with mylar or panda.)

Ill post again with a link to my journal once its all setup...Ill be here all day anyways. I inend on making myself a piece of the furniture around here..(or perhaps a part of the grow room would be more in order).

Cant wait to see some new pics of your crop. Ok i have lighting and stuf to hang...back later all.

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I am growing tomatoes, If you see pictures of anything other than tomatoes you are seeing things, probably from sampling the evidence you collected from the last guy you busted. If you dont go around punishing people for growing plants then this sig does not apply.

LOL I told you that before you know it you'd be upgrading LOL. I myself bought a gazebo without the frame that I was gonna use as a makeshift growroom when I first moved here- I was just gonna staple it to the rafters n box off a 10x10 space in the basement. But the tarping is way too wierd a material for me. I ended up buyin 10x50 roll of Panda I'm savin for when the landlord takes care of everything down there, n then I'm pickin up lumber, drywall sheets, n I'm lining the whole deal in panda film. Plants grow better indoors in an enclosed area from what I've read and seen. Right now the grow in the basement is ugly as
Shit lol- the tables are just sittin down there barebones with a shitty rubbermaid reZ, a light with no blower or ducting, and a window fan I suspended with packing twine. I did shit as minimal as possible so I can tear it all down for a day with no trouble, n then set up everything the way it's supposed to be. I'll be framing my trays in lumber, possibly just making a couple more with some polyurethane n lumber, n I'm even gonna block off the ceiling with a drop ceiling. Then I'll have hard ducting running through the rafters, and I'll be exhausting through the houses heating cents, and bringing in fresh air through my dryer duct. I just gotta map it all out but for right now the shit is fugly LOL. The only thing comforting is that my plants roots are already breaking through the delta blocks. Even the blueberry is lookin better IMHO, but it's gonna take a week or two before I see any physical changes I'm sure.

Once the plants have all established some good hydro roots, I'm gonna probably move them all to one table, and use the other one (possible other 3) for a SOG grow. I just found out that ABF us using the same sized tables as I am, so I did some more reading in his journal and I think that I can still pull off his grow with a lil bit more time. I don't need to wait no 4 mos to do it either. Just need to wait til my seedlings turn into big girls, n pick my favorites n make them moms. The blueberry will be nice n beefy by then too, cuz I'm gonna end up putting her in my dwc bucket n grow her out for as long as I can n take as many cuttings as I can, n maybe flower her around December or something lol.

Anyways I took pics but they're shitty, so lemme redo them
Bitches n I'll get back to u

Awesome, I accidentally picked up hydro only nutes...argh...the guy at the shop said they would be ok for soil! I got dutch master 2 part nutes...I DO want to go hydro later, and i have some really good ideas regarding a system...but for the first few i think i will go soil.
Now, when I was talking to the guy at the hydro store he said to mix no more than 4ml per 10 litres, and said to start off waaaay less than that and work up. He said mix the nutes in water, adjust ph then water.

Do you think i should try what he said, or take it back and get soil nutes? I only spent $20 on nutes, got the smaller containers to test with.

I have 3 plants, I think I will test this stuff the way he said it, and if all is good keep going, if not ill know. I mean, if im REALLY gentle to begin with and get a bit of nute burn i can stop using it, and then when shes ready ill take some clones and do a single bucket...welcome to hydro then right...

Ill go make my journal, and come check back here with a link and see how you are going...my setups is still pretty dodgy, but at least its all lined and stuff now.

Prot

OK, so heres some pics finally of some more progress on things. Obviously, things havent been exactly up to par as far as my expectations go, but im slowly dialing in this houses preferences for growing, and i think that by the time this grow is done, ill be ready to undertake something more serious, and be able to do it with 100% success, and to my own personal satisfaction. Youll see what i meant here when i say that theyre small still. I dont know if i said it in here, or inanother thread, but im flowering the soil plants right now, and theyre all showing sex, but even the biggest one is still small, so i might either throw them all back into veg in 2 weeks once they finish stretching, so i can bush them out n up a little more before i do final flower, or ill just take my durban, northern, and sputnik and put them back into veg to get some age and bulk to them Im not sure yet, but im gonna definitely have to figure somethin out, unless i wanna sacrifice alotta yield this time around for convenience, lol.

So heres some pics for you guys. Well start out with The Church. Shes actually doin ok for 1 week into flowerr. Hopefully shell get another foot or two taller before she goes into full out budding, n if she doesnt shell go back into veg for another couple weeks to make sure she gets the weight that i want her to get. We'll see though..:



Next is Strawberry Blue. Shes still really kinda tiny n lanky. If i were to let her go, shed end up with two pretty decent sized top buds, almost lookin like the Widows i had last time around. Which isnt really a bad thing, that bud was fuckin killer, and it yielded decent. But i wanna see if i can get ALOT more out of her. Once again though, its up in the air on what im gonna do :



SPUTNIK #1 -- I think shes way too small to let flower out. But i have a bunch more seeds, so i dunno yet. maybe 3/4 oz is enough for a tester, lol. :



DURBAN POISON - Same deal :



NORTHERN LIGHTS - Same deal, lol :



SOUR P - I think this plant is gonna get flowered straight up. Shes fuckin huge right now, n in 2 weeks shell probably end up bein 3ft tall or so. i love the way this girl turned out. Shes fuckin bushy as hell man. :



Red DIESEL - Once again, fuckin beautiful plant. hope she stretches out alot more too. :



N heres my barebones tray setup for right now. Once again, i need to wait until the landlord gets his fuckin lazy ass up in here before i can start construction of my room, and give this setup what it truly deserves, but for now i built a pvc frame for it which is kinda sturdy LOL, but im replacing it with lumber soon enough. N im building a 10x12 room, and will be doing a set of 3x3 trays on two of the walls, and the other side of the room will have the veg chamber and cloning chamber. Itll all be contained in one big room, so i dont have to run back n forth like i do right now, checking from crop to crop. Its fuckin frustrating living in my own house and not being able to finish the damn setup the way i want it to be, and thats why everything is suffering. But once i have everything built n dialed in, ill be able to control everything in my grow, and the plants will be alot happier. Ill be venting the air throughout the heating ducts in the house, and bringing in fresh air from my dryer duct. Everything will be run on one 480 cfm blower and one 500 cfm blower, with hard ducting running into the room and out of the room, and flexi ducting running through the rafters. Ill have a drop ceiling put in eventually, but until then i think im gonna just scrub them bitches down with hygrozyme and an industrial brush, to get rid of the cobwebs, spiderwebs, and any other insects or beasties crawlin around up there. After that, its drywall, lumber, n panda film everywhere, and a big fuckin smile on my face, lol






But no matter how stressful this shit can be at times, the first thing i learned when i started this hobby is that everybody has to start from meager beginnings, and you work your way up from there, as you learn more n more. I may be taking my lumps as far as setbacks right now, but itll pay off in the long run man. The more time i have to think about what i wanna do when i finally have the freedom to run around crazy n do whatever i want, the more detailed my setup becomes in my head. It can all be done proffessionally with the lighting i have currently, nothing else needs to be bought. i have the materials i need to get goin, and the only thing ill need to pick up is more rockwool, and probably a few more pots once i go perpetual officially. For now though, its slow goin, and im not gonna hurry anything else along other than my soil plants. the hydro im gonnna take my time with n make sure i learn from it n get it right, and when its ready to flower out, ill flower it out and then get goin on the serious shit. Ill be updating more regularly now that i actually have something to show, lol, so stay tuned guys, itll get more interesting i swear, LOL.

peace,
-K1.

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

OK, so heres some pics finally of some more progress on things. Obviously, things havent been exactly up to par as far as my expectations go, but im slowly dialing in this houses preferences for growing, and i think that by the time this grow is done, ill be ready to undertake something more serious, and be able to do it with 100% success, and to my own personal satisfaction. Youll see what i meant here when i say that theyre small still. I dont know if i said it in here, or inanother thread, but im flowering the soil plants right now, and theyre all showing sex, but even the biggest one is still small, so i might either throw them all back into veg in 2 weeks once they finish stretching, so i can bush them out n up a little more before i do final flower, or ill just take my durban, northern, and sputnik and put them back into veg to get some age and bulk to them Im not sure yet, but im gonna definitely have to figure somethin out, unless i wanna sacrifice alotta yield this time around for convenience, lol.

So heres some pics for you guys. Well start out with The Church. Shes actually doin ok for 1 week into flowerr. Hopefully shell get another foot or two taller before she goes into full out budding, n if she doesnt shell go back into veg for another couple weeks to make sure she gets the weight that i want her to get. We'll see though..:

Next is Strawberry Blue. Shes still really kinda tiny n lanky. If i were to let her go, shed end up with two pretty decent sized top buds, almost lookin like the Widows i had last time around. Which isnt really a bad thing, that bud was fuckin killer, and it yielded decent. But i wanna see if i can get ALOT more out of her. Once again though, its up in the air on what im gonna do :

SPUTNIK #1 -- I think shes way too small to let flower out. But i have a bunch more seeds, so i dunno yet. maybe 3/4 oz is enough for a tester, lol. :

DURBAN POISON - Same deal :

NORTHERN LIGHTS - Same deal, lol :

SOUR P - I think this plant is gonna get flowered straight up. Shes fuckin huge right now, n in 2 weeks shell probably end up bein 3ft tall or so. i love the way this girl turned out. Shes fuckin bushy as hell man. :

Red DIESEL - Once again, fuckin beautiful plant. hope she stretches out alot more too. :

N heres my barebones tray setup for right now. Once again, i need to wait until the landlord gets his fuckin lazy ass up in here before i can start construction of my room, and give this setup what it truly deserves, but for now i built a pvc frame for it which is kinda sturdy LOL, but im replacing it with lumber soon enough. N im building a 10x12 room, and will be doing a set of 3x3 trays on two of the walls, and the other side of the room will have the veg chamber and cloning chamber. Itll all be contained in one big room, so i dont have to run back n forth like i do right now, checking from crop to crop. Its fuckin frustrating living in my own house and not being able to finish the damn setup the way i want it to be, and thats why everything is suffering. But once i have everything built n dialed in, ill be able to control everything in my grow, and the plants will be alot happier. Ill be venting the air throughout the heating ducts in the house, and bringing in fresh air from my dryer duct. Everything will be run on one 480 cfm blower and one 500 cfm blower, with hard ducting running into the room and out of the room, and flexi ducting running through the rafters. Ill have a drop ceiling put in eventually, but until then i think im gonna just scrub them bitches down with hygrozyme and an industrial brush, to get rid of the cobwebs, spiderwebs, and any other insects or beasties crawlin around up there. After that, its drywall, lumber, n panda film everywhere, and a big fuckin smile on my face, lol

But no matter how stressful this shit can be at times, the first thing i learned when i started this hobby is that everybody has to start from meager beginnings, and you work your way up from there, as you learn more n more. I may be taking my lumps as far as setbacks right now, but itll pay off in the long run man. The more time i have to think about what i wanna do when i finally have the freedom to run around crazy n do whatever i want, the more detailed my setup becomes in my head. It can all be done proffessionally with the lighting i have currently, nothing else needs to be bought. i have the materials i need to get goin, and the only thing ill need to pick up is more rockwool, and probably a few more pots once i go perpetual officially. For now though, its slow goin, and im not gonna hurry anything else along other than my soil plants. the hydro im gonnna take my time with n make sure i learn from it n get it right, and when its ready to flower out, ill flower it out and then get goin on the serious shit. Ill be updating more regularly now that i actually have something to show, lol, so stay tuned guys, itll get more interesting i swear, LOL.

peace,
-K1.

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Cardboard grow box my ass lol your setup is looking sweet! I have a feminized church seedling right now that I got from greenhouse seeds. It is growing awfully slow, do you have any tips for this strain?

Lookin great King, nice to see those plants, been a while bro! I like the tray set up I can't wait to get my own. I posted up some pics of my girls today, put up the first bud pics. I'll catch ya later man. TC

K1Ng,
Ok my journal is up now!

Feel free to drop in everyone. All are welcome to post pics and spam away..

King, Go check out the difference between CFL and HPS lights in my thread, its awesome to see that the $200 kit i bought (ballast, light and reflector) wasn't a waste of money.

I mean i know everyone knows the difference...but its one thing to know there's more lumens from a HPS...but seeing it defines just HOW much...its a LOT lol.

My journal thread:
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/184424-prot3us1s-grow-box.html

Tom,
Fiirst brother, you gotta check out the first grow i did in this journal. Youd be surprised. I get a couple people every now n then who come by n read the last few pages n laugh, lol, but when you see how i started out, and the progression from that to this, youll see man. I started out pretty damn meager. With nothin but a single flood lamp CFL, a cardboard box, some miracle grow, and a dream

The only advise i can give right now with Church, is that shes a slow starter, but after a while shell blow up. She can take alot of nutrients , but right before flowering, i would say to back off to about 1/2 strength veg nutes for the last couple feedings before the switch in lighting and nutes. I have a little bit of burn on her, and it just happened when i switched over to flower, n i didnt change anything in my regimen until i switched to bloom nutrients. Im actually in the middle of feeding pure H2o to my girls to sort of prime them for the new technoflora BC nutrients im about to start feeding them and my hydro plants. but regardless, keep it up, n ill come around to check to see how yours looks compared to mine. Hell, i may even end up bein the one who fucked up the plant, n u may end up with a monster!! lol.


Pro, ill be on my way in in a little bit. My Landlord swung by unexpectedly today n i had to do some emergency stashing of my plants, lol. So i gotta go re-set up everything n then ill be back on.

TC - ill come check you out too in a minute bro. No worries.
N hell yeah its been a while, but its taken fuckin forever for me to get up n running. Even though the setup itself is meager at the moment, the tables are fuckin awesome man. SUPER RAPID root growth dude. Thats all im sayin. Ive never seen roots grow so fast in any of my soil plants from the moment i started growin pot. Its been somethin like 3 days since i put the BB on the tray, and roots are already pokin out of the bottom of the pot. Every single plant's root systems are breakin through the Big delta blocks i have, i mean ALL the way through, lol, and honestly, even though it looks all broke down now, every time i look at thatt shit i keep on gettin impressed, lol. N then i get DEpressed, cuz i didnt do everything that i needed to do to go SOG right away. If i were to have, i could have done an lb every month with just the two tables that i have right now. But who knows, maybe when i decide which plants ill throw back into veg, maybe itll just end up bein a couple plants illl turn into moms, n empty out those tables n make some new ones, n fill these ones up with some clones. The more i read about SOG the more pissed off i get man, lol - i have enough lights to do it properly, and im not man. Im not even using my 600 anymore, and i should probably be using that for my soil plants. Not using my flouro tubes anymore, cuz i quit clonin til i can get everything on the tables under control. Bah, fuck it man. Ill get it all sorted as soon as shit gets un-confusing, and i can build a proper environment for everything.

Getting a C02 tank within the next couple weeks, n ill have to save for an extra week or so for the regulator, but thatll come shortly after. Also gonna get me a Sulfur burner too. n then all ill need from there is another 3 ft carbon filter, and then my next goal will be to save up for environmental controls -- like the shit that makes everything fully FULLY automated. U know what i mean? like the shit that kicks the fans on automatically when its too hot, kicks on the C02 when there aint enough in the air, automatically tops off the rez, adds nutes when needed (least i think they make somethin that does that, lol). itll all come though. But i need to build a room to set it all up in first though, lol.

Hey King,
In your experience for 4 days growth is this pretty sad? (pic i attached)

I had the light on 23/1...Ive now changed that to 18/6. Im not gonna veg for too long on this one, Basically this grow is to get me some smokables to last until i can get some seedage.

I looked at getting seeds last night...but attitude might not post to australia anymore apparently and most of the others are expensive...is there any aussies out there reading this that can vouch for any stores? i dont mind spending the money but im a bit sceptical of getting the seeds into the country...
On the bright side i DO know what i will be growing now....
First gentics grow (when i buy the seeds):
Bubblegum
Train Wreck
White Widow
The Church

Ive always wanted to grow a W/W. Theres some bubblegum going around here for $300-$350/oz. Apparently its a really cool smoke...

Train wreck looks awesome and the church sounds very cool from what i read lol.

As far as ordering seeds, like I said, most places ship worldwide, n unless it says they specifically don't ship to a certain county, then chances are you'll be able to get your seeds from them. I love attitude man. IMHO it's the best seedbank around. N I'll go take a look at your journal in a sec.


Now, as for what strains to grow, it's all about your own personal preferences. Your gonna wanna look at each strains thx content, flowering time, cbd/cbn content, and wether it's indica or sativa. All of these factors determine what you have time/space/ability to grow. Some people like indicas cuz they're nice n short, n usually heavy yielding, n have a very distinct high. Others prefer sativa plants, once again because it also has a very distinct high aswell, but they grow massive in height, and take all the way up to almost twice as long to flower. Some people like ruderalis strains, cuz they're relatively low maintenence and are auto flowering strains- meaning they take about 8-10 weeks from seed to harvest. I personally love them all, but I like hybrid strains. It's the best of both worlds, and since I'm on no type of time schedule, I can mess around and take my time growing whatever I want to.

If your a beginner, I'd choose a couple nice indica strains that take about 8 wks to flower out. It'll give u a feel for how shit works, n you'll be able to pretty much grow whatever the hell you want after that, if you can make it to the end without getting impatient and chopping early, LOL. No matter what you choose though, there will be a breakdown of how the plant grows in the description. If you want a heavy yielding strain that's east to grow, I'd say go with either the church or AK 47 or 48. the AK is SUPER easy to grow, n as long as you take good care of her, shell yield ALOT of ganja. 3 AK plants could get you 4-7 or 8 oz if you grow her attentively. I'll do some strain reviews once my flowering ladies are finished, n if you haven't already picked somethin out, then maybe it'll help u to make a good choice.

Hope that helped a bit man. I'll come check out your pics now. But efore I do, remember that your girls have only been growing for 4 days man. There's no such thing as pathetic for 4 days LOL. I begged 8 plants for more than 2 months n because of a mistake I made with the soil, they were still pretty small when I switched them over to flower.

King,
I look forward to your reviews! I got a few to start with, but theres nothing stopping me from buying more right..lol...Im not sure if ill ever have the same kind of collection as you..you are like a veritable walking seedbank ...maybe i should have bought them off you lol...you could probably run a seedbank you know...maybe thats something you could do..you said you were interested in messing with your own crosses...(so am i)...perhaps one day kingspade genetix will be as popular as sensi or joint doctor.

The only problem is pollen...its very good at what it does..and what it does is stick to everything and spread...but i bet if you put your mind and resources into it you would be fine....and if you need a tester to make sure your strains are stable and write up reviews and grow logs so people know what to expect let me know .

LOL @ me bein a walking seedbank. The only problem is i have all these seeds, and theyre not being kept properly i dont think, cuz i had a hell of a time getting some of them to germinate. The earliest ones i bought really i had like 1 of every three germ, so im a little pissed that i stockpiled such a great collection, n then fucked it up by not keeping them fresh enough. I have them in a jar , so no new air is gonna get to them, leaving them as fresh as the day i put them in there. But no worries, ill be picking up more seeds every month, lol, so ill be sure to keep them bitches fresh from here on out.

But nah, if i were to wanna do something like sell my seeds or genetics in general, itd have to be my own, that i made myself. what id love to do is open up a medicinal shop when MMJ is legalized in my state, and start breeding, and making seeds, so i can have my own personal seedbank n never have to fuckin worry about goin elsewhere for genetics again. But then again, you gotta buy them in the 1st place in order to get your hands on the genes to breed with, lol. But at least once i have the strain for 30 bucks, ill never have to buy that particular one ever again

But those dreams aside, lol, ill be happy with growing out some primo bud for the time being, and being able to share with my friends is enough recognition i want or need for doin what i do. I dont even like tellin them where it comes from. usually its just "i know a guy who gets some diggity out of pittsburgh", or something to that effect, lol.

-My Sour P plant is lookin like a mini monster. Shes not getting much taller yet, but shes bushing out like a motherfucker!!! her branches would be perfect for cloning, lol, but shes a 10 week strain, n i dont feel like takin 2 weeks to clone, n then another 10 to flower out. If i wanted that id just finish the grow in doin right now, lol. But, i cant say im not completely excited to try her. Shes already got speckles of trichomes here n there on her leaves, n her nodes are so tightly spaced that her buds are gonnna be ROCK hard, n thick, n big man. Ive never seed so many nodes in such a little space on any of my plants yet. Matter fact, pretty much all of the bigger plants in flower right now have really tight node spacing. I dont know if thats a good thing or a bad thing, but the branches are thick, and with the nodes so close, when the budsites all connect to each other, i cant see anything else happening but for thhem to swell the fuck up like a monster. I just hope i get like another foot of height to them. If that happens over the next two weeks, ill be one happy motherfucker. Well see though. Id love for the Durban, Sputnik, and Northerns to grow a little more too- i can live with a 3/4 oz bud on each of those plants. It'd be awesome to get an oz, but i think thats wishful thinking.

Ill snap some more pics in a few days - probably the same day i did it this week so you can see the progression from this point out.

The hydro plants are doin awesome too man. The roots are really starting to impress me. The actual growth of the plants could be a little better n faster, but the positive is that everything is growing, and nothing is stunted at all, nothing is experiencing lockout, and everything is moving forward. Ive bumped the ppm up to 750, only because im trying to see what the plants are happy feeding on. Ive added some Magical, some Root66, and some Sugar daddy to my nutrient mix, along with a sploosh of thrivealive b-1 green complex, as per the recipe for success says to do, only ive added the Root66 per my own personal preference. It cant hurt to fuckin have some root promoter in with all that shit to feed the seedlings, and make them bitches grow nice n thick root systems right??

i guess well see. Ill show you them in a week for sure. Blueberry is fully recovered, and now focusing on rebuilding its root system, and is showing new signs of improvement in the actual plant every day. I cant wait to see her in a week man. If she starts pickin up, i might just throw another BB iin there aswell, to see if i can have a choice of which one i wanna clone from. being able to choose the better pheno from multiple plants is awesome to be able to do when picking a mother plant. When i first decided to do this, i just planted one of each strain, and was hoping for the best. Now, while they all were slow starters, look at the bitches now, lol. Theyre all lookin like theyre gonna put out some DANK nugs IMO, but if i had two of each i think i'd be way happier with myself. Oh well, let see if im successful in my journey for 10 oz. Ideally i wanna get an lb from this run, but i doubt ill be able to. 9oz from 5 plants last time, n i dont think i did QUITE as good a job this time around as i did last time. so 3 more plants than last time in flower, only theyre all pretty small, so i think ill get 10-12 oz. We shall see. I think ill get at least 2 oz off of each big plant. I dont see how i couldnt. theyre all getting SERIOUSLY bushy. ..

Sounds like you're getting all the bugs worked out bro! I bet you gettin antsy to get some buds going again. I'm so excited with the progress mine are making, it feels great. Its been about 2 years since my last grow, I've been dieing to get a garden going again.

That sucks that your seeds are getting difficult to germ..

I read about your dreams, Ive always had the dream to have my own Internet cafe/high end pc store...But gardening is a very close second, maybe even better depending what im gardening ..

I will likely buy more seeds if i get these ones too..Im already thinking about a bigger grow space...Thinkng but not keen on acting on it yet..im still working things out...Im expecting the 3 bagseed im doing to die...although so far the one thats a seedling is going STRONG the other 2 seeds are showing peeks of taproots.

I only expect them to die because im still not sure if the nutes i have got is going to be ok for soil...I tested them on a normal weed and the fucking thing tripled in size in a few days...lol but thats planted in the ground in the sun...still im a little more relaxed about trying them now on the first seedling...the others wont be ready for nutes for a while yet, the first seedling will be due in a few days.

Prot

This Thread for brief status updates:
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/185156-first-grow-bagseed-400hps-growbox.html

This Thread for the ramblings of me, Its the same journal just with WAAAY more info...:
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/184424-prot3us1s-grow-box.html

those are some nice bushes mang !
i cant wait to see those trays filled up

Thanks man, n i think that the way its gonna work this time around, is that i have .the perfect number of plants in my trays right now, since im growing them out, the spacing once they get a little bigger is gonna be perfect, big enough for them to veg out to a decent size, n then do some aggressive flowering. That BC shit from Technaflora aint no joke man. They want me to be at 1100 ppm for the stage of growth im in. N since BC is pretty much a cannabis nutrient, im just following their instructions, n see where it takes me. So pH is at 5.8, and ppm is at exactly 1100. The Rez was lookin kinda murky today so i figured why not clean it all out replace the water n do up some BC nute action. Added some boost, grow, sugar daddy, and thrive alive b-1 complex, n some Magical to the brew. Now im just gonna let the chlorine dissapate over the next 12 hours with my bubblesticks inside the rez, n the timer is set to feed the plants automatically. I even got a new rez, picked up the Rubbermaid ROUGHNECK 40 gal tote, which works SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better. It was lower to the ground and longer, so my fittings could go right into the lid, and i was even able to cut the frame of the tray stand down by another 5 inches, which gives the tables the perfect height to them for growin pot. This hydro thing is workin out pretty fuckin sweet


-On the soil front.... Everything is lookin fuckin awesome. Flowering steadily every single day, no hermies so far, its all just lookin great. wish shit would get taller, n it probably will still, but even if it dont ill have some nice thick nuggets on them branches for sure ......except for my YUMBOLDT. She turned yellow overnight (not totally, but ALOT), and shes really flimsy in the soil. I feel like i can literally just touch the damn thing n shell fall over. shes still flowering, but i think that i might have an Iron or Copper def. goin on. The leaves were seriously droopy n lookin really sad in the soil man. I didnt know what to do, so i figured id just take care of both iron and copper, just in case. I added some Root 66 n some Sugar Daddy to a gallon of water, n fed that bitch, n then took some more into a spray bottle, n foliar fed for direct distribution. I dont like foliar feeding at all anymore, cuz that shit just aint good for the plants, so i only do it if i absolutely NEED to, so the plant can get her food directly, without waiting for the roots to eat that shit up. It should take 1-2 days for the shit to work, so hopefully ill see some improvement by then. If anybody has any idea of anything else it could be, lemme know cuz i dont wanna lose 2 oz of some AK Yumboldt to some dumbass problem that i didnt forsee, or couldnt diagnose. fuckin stupid plant problems....they should make a strain thats impervious to human error, lol.

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

...cuz i dont wanna lose 2 oz of some AK Yumboldt to some dumbass problem that i didnt forsee, or couldnt diagnose. fuckin stupid plant problems....they should make a strain thats impervious to human error, lol.

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i feel you there man. its bad enough when everything is 'under control'... being a farmer would really suck -- with no control over the weather. but, then, i guess most american farmers are backed by crop insurance.

just once i'd like to have a crop go from start to finish and feel that everything went just perfectly. won't be this time around i just overnuted my clones again and jacked their pH off... ah well, stunted marijunana shall rise again.
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lmao, man, i dont think ive had a crop yet that i didnt have at least a SLIGHT case of nute burn. Even the girls in flower right now have burnt tips, n i went EASY AS HELL on the nutes this time around. I think that during the 7 or 8 wks that i was vegging the bitches, i only nuted like 4 or 5 times total. I had to force myself to dose them up with bloom nutes right before flowering, just to make sure they had the Phosphorous they needed to give off a nice yeild. N now with these new nutrients i have, its a completely different regimen, n it took me long enough to get used to FF's schedule as it is man. But, i guess it just comes with the territory, lol.

I dont know if i like BC's nutrients though. Some people swear by them, using them in their hydro systems, but within one day of changing the rez out and giving fresh nutes, the damn rez already has a wierd smell to it - but that may just be the way that these nutes react though, so im not changin it out again unless i open the rez one day n see a giant oil slick chillin on top of the rubbermaid tote, like what happened when i filled up that tote up with my soil plants, lol. THAT shit was disgusting. But i guess well see how the plants react to the nutrients, cuz its not about what i like, its about what THEY like. Im still tryin to feel out what the seedlings in the hydro system really prefer. I dont know if they like the higher ppm content better yet or not - they really havent grown any over the last 3 days. I guess ill give them a week n see where im at. I AINT gonna let them take no fuckin 2 months to get where i want them to be at vegetation wise thats for damn sure. I got 10 autoflowering plants on that fuckin table, so i need to do somethin to make them bitches grow, n grow fuckin fast man. I'd love to be able to get an oz at least from each of those girls man. That shit would make me fuckin reallllllly happy. 10oz from the autos, n like another 25 from the rest of the plants, LMAO.

So now I think I'm in danger of screwing the pooch on this while thing with the AK. She's getting worse, so I did the same thing for her that I did with my BB n took her out, washed her roots up, n transplanted her into the hydro table, in hopes that maybe the veg n micro nutes that are in the red might save her life. So now I'm stuck at a crossroads with her. Do I sit tight n hope she pulls through? Or do I take as many cuttings as I can from her, try to get them to root, n put them right back into flower, in hopes that I'll get relatively the same yield? This Fuckin sucks. I mean, it's cool knowing that I can save a plants life by doing what I did, but knowing that as sick as my baby was, there's a good chance I'll wake up n shell be dead or close to it. So do I chance it or try to salvage what I can.. She's not healthy, so technically there's a good chance she may not root if I take cuttings, no matter how big they are, so am I better off to let her recover for a couple weeks n then put her back into flower?

Any opinions here would really help me make a descision. She woulda been a Fuckin beast if ida let her flower out healthy. I don't Fuckin get what I did wrong...