Layoffs coming...

NoDrama said:
The only person you need to be responsible for is yourself. If everyone did that this world would be a much better place.

They did a study in San Diego, gave the homeless people $30,000 a year for food and got them a free apartment, within 2 years 95% of the people on the program were back living on the street.

Give a Crack Addict $10,000 and you have a crack addict with a bigger supply of crack.

You talk about $2 a day like $2 has the same purchasing power all over the world. It doesn't, in those countries where people are impoverished because they choose to live in a place with few resources, $2 a day feeds you, clothes you and gets you a place to live. In China a big Mac meal doesn't cost the same as it does here, its about 70% cheaper. Where you and I pay $3 for a hotdog here, in Nairobi they only cost the equivalent of $.25

Purchasing parity my friend, don't let the $2 a day figure fool you into thinking that people could barely afford a can of coke.
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your fallacy is showing . . .but i guess all it takes is one study and then its fact . . . . . . . .laughable assertion
 
spandy said:
I have 7 full time, whats that matter?

I should leave America because you think my opinion is a minority opinion? Was that your argument? If thats the case, who wouldn't have to leave? Gays would be gone, drug users would be gone, fuck everyone would be gone over a long enough time line. The whole point of voicing your opinion is in hopes that either that day, or some day, you will show people enough of what you believe to be true to get them to help you support it. Nice try though, actually, no it wasn't.

Yeah, cut the fuckin safety net and make people work for a living. I realize not everyone can contribute in the same way, and that there will always be those who need help, and thats why you can head up a local community program with your buddies to collect money from willing participants, and help those that need help. I just want you to stop voting with my checking account as part of your plan, use your own.
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Leaving was just an option.. I suggested voicing your opinion too, which you are doing now...
 
HeartlandHank said:
Bill Gates... raised by a prominent lawyer and a member of a board of directors for First Interstate BancSystem... what are you fucking kidding me dude?

Dropping out of college is facing adversity? Jesus, I didn't know just how bad it really has gotten for Republicans. You guys have no fucking clue, do you?
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Mitt and Ann Romney know how challenging being unemployed and attending college can be
They were so poor they considered selling stocks from their portfolio
 
Samwell Seed Well said:
your fallacy is showing . . .but i guess all it takes is one study and then its fact . . . . . . . .laughable assertion
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Which fallacy is that? Perhaps you care to point it out for everyone to see?

If you can't specifically point it out and specifically say which fallacy it is, then a fallacy does not exist and you are just Butthurt.
 
Come on NoDrama... you gave me Oprah and Bill Gates :lol:. Who else? Did you check that "Upward Bound" program... would you want that to be cut to lower your federal tax rate?

Oprah, perfect example... The program spends 4700$ of federal money, per participant... she got a better education... she became one of the most successful women in history. how many millions has she given worldwide to help others?

Don't just roll past to new talking points.... stand behind your points that are being challenged.
 
the one study means fact as long as it validates my assertion based entirely on speculation and guessing


that fallacy

remember douche i was homeless . . ..

it is somthing you would have no idea about . . . . . . .creampuffs like you don't even like breathing poor people air
 
spandy said:
I stated very clearly that food, shelter and clothing were needed, in other words. Meaning that if a person does not have regular access to those 3 items, then I would indeed consider them impoverished.

Nice narrow mind stab. I bet your were thinking of that while you were misreading my post.
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So workers in 3rd world countries who barely bring enough food for their families and have zero to save do not count in your book?

It does to me. But I will admit, I'm quite confused by 'your' definition of poverty.
 
NoDrama said:
in those countries where people are impoverished because they choose to live in a place with few resources, $2 a day feeds you, clothes you and gets you a place to live.
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Lol you are so off based and this line is all that is needed to prove it. Those people who can barely afford to live in an impoverished country that they were born into do NOT have that choice that you so easily voice they do.

In fact, since you are so certain on everything without providing ANY kind of source for information to back you up, go ahead and explain to me and show me the stats of how someone born into poverty of a 3rd world country can get out of it.

If you can find that; then maybe we could get on the track to beat poverty.
 
NoDrama said:
Dropping out of college and having your business fail is adversity.

Just because your parents are well off doesn't mean diddly squat to some people, My parents didn't have much until I was already out on my own living my own life with my own family.

Adversity doesn't mean that you have to come from a 3rd world country and be impoverished. Perhaps you don't know the definition of adversity.
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I know the term adversity... given the discussion we are having, i thought it would be assumed that we were talking about intense adversity, coming up in poverty and facing adversity.... not being raised by a lawyer and a banker, dropping out of school and having your first business fail... once again... you show me just how clueless you guys are to what is going on in the country as far as poverty and adversity.
 
Not to mention Bill Gates, one of the richest people in the world, is using his money to fight world poverty, and still needs MORE help.

If that isn't an eye opener to how bad things are, everywhere, then what is?
 
HeartlandHank said:
Ah! Oprah... perfect example.... google the "Upward bound program". Some federally funded money that managed to dodge the fatass and his tv and went to a good cause. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upward_Bound

What were you saying again?
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Sooo what you are trying to say is that because Oprah is an alumni of Upward Bound that is what she owes her success to? I think she owes her success to being determined, lucky, educated and experienced and not becuase some government program gave her a hand up.

BTW that upward bound program has helped less than 0.0000001531786% of the population.
 
UncleBuck said:
but you didn't build that. federal taxpayers sending you big ag subsidies to grow your GMO crops after you set the GPS on your tractor built that.
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GPS

The Global Positioning System (GPS) is a space-based satellite navigation system that provides location and time information in all weather, anywhere on or near the Earth, where there is an unobstructed line of sight to four or more GPS satellites. It is maintained by the United States government and is freely accessible to anyone with a GPS receiver.
The GPS program provides critical capabilities to military, civil and commercial users around the world. In addition, GPS is the backbone for modernizing the global air traffic system.
The GPS project was developed in 1973 to overcome the limitations of previous navigation systems,[SUP][1][/SUP] integrating ideas from several predecessors, including a number of classified engineering design studies from the 1960s. GPS was created and realized by the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and was originally run with 24 satellites. It became fully operational in 1994.
 
ChesusRice said:
GPS

The Global Positioning System (GPS) is a space-based satellite navigation system that provides location and time information in all weather, anywhere on or near the Earth, where there is an unobstructed line of sight to four or more GPS satellites. It is maintained by the United States government and is freely accessible to anyone with a GPS receiver.
The GPS program provides critical capabilities to military, civil and commercial users around the world. In addition, GPS is the backbone for modernizing the global air traffic system.
The GPS project was developed in 1973 to overcome the limitations of previous navigation systems,[SUP][1][/SUP] integrating ideas from several predecessors, including a number of classified engineering design studies from the 1960s. GPS was created and realized by the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and was originally run with 24 satellites. It became fully operational in 1994.
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lol.

he really didn't build that.

but he does support rawn pawl because he does not like government intervention into the free market.

and then he goes to check the mailbox for his welfare check.

i love righties.
 
Omgwtfbbq Indicaman said:
population control is a bigger deal than poverty, poverty is created by over-population. overpopulated nations cost their governments more strain.
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While that can be easily observed from just looking at numbers; it is easily dismissed when you dive into the history of why THOSE numbers are there. Birth control is making it's way to 3rd world countries, it took awhile for them to begin to get birth control for their populations because well, they were just fucking poor. And birth control is really being donated to these countries, they aren't buying em.

Did Brazil just magically become the power house it is today because it decided to 'work harder?' Nah, it didn't, it found a way to give back to their people, build SOCIAL PROGRAMS for THEIR POPULATION and still continue to grow. **SOURCE** http://inequalitywatch.eu/spip.php?article122 **SOURCE** If Brazil can do it, why can't we?

Next;
 
It's not a welfare check, UB. It is a farm subsidy that we all pay for with our taxes that the department of ag. sends to gmo producers for feedin' 'Merica. This is the same department of agriculture that is responsible for the food stamp program that most republica farmers want to do away with, evn though it was developed as another way to subsidize farmers and alow por people to eat.
 
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