Leaf damage? Dtw coco

Post number 500! Of all the problems I ever had with solutions. Thanks all for the help, I really needed it.

Anyway I tested this strain and meh it can go and just go from seed when I want that awesome taste again. The other other one is so so but requires a cure which can be a pain. Can go too.

I really need just my mvp right now which I have in good condition down stairs. Might just toss the moms I dont want to bring pm to my veg and clone area like I may of already taking cuts from flower room clone.

It sat for a day before cloning but I sprayed copper all over it and some pm probably made its way down there already but not like my flower room. Aka ground zero. This massive loss just has me not caring much its just extra stress when really only one is needed.

So far no pm on the fanned plant still or the treated moms but far too soon to say. If the moms get more pm it might be best to toss like I said since the one I need the most is I guess clean.

Shit the pedestal dont oscilate very far. About to use the box fan for the 2.5x5 and flip two small 30 day clones. Only becauseits going good so far and theyre big enough and might keep me loaded until I figure this out. Thats one good thing about autos they maintain a small size as doing photos from seed theyll be bigger unless theyre goodnwith flipping early.

Got me some more box fans gonna make a filter out of one for the flower room and flip two more clones nice and small 5 wk old. Fan between the board lights oof Im nervous but I been told I dont always listen its true but Im gonna go full on out. I just watched a podcast it was mentioned people do this.

My vipar bar lights are the best for this situation I feel less worried there even though it can still go to shit. So overall nervous will see. I was gonna figure out a different way with the fans but I should listen and give the suggestions a try all the way.

Like I expected the sides dont have much air flow but the fan pulls air to it too. Idk.

This way gets air across the whole canopy maybe can put another one on the other side. I saw passive air flow not be enough so just gearing up.

Looks like potential success! Air brushing every leaf. Not just passive air but actual air blowing/brushing it. I feel good about this test.

Yeah, either way that should do it! Just be careful with those box fans, and watch out for wind stress symptoms. Even on low, they pack quite the CFM punch, so don't underestimate them. Especially without the 1" furnace filters restricting the flow.

I was eventually having issues being so close to my plants canopies until I started to put them on a timer to cycle on and off. Giving frequent breaks, much like an oscillating fan would, but way better IMO. A cheap fan speed controller can help dial them in better too.

Muahaha. I just realized I could flip two more plants and have a full garden. I think the fan on one side is enough as the leafs on the furthest plant still move a lot. No pm on the 3x3 plant still. Might toss the moms as theyre not really worth saving, might just infect my most valuable strain that I have uninfected downstairs. The copper spray seems to work though.

If one gnat gets trapped inside the root ball and you sock it, can it just reproduce inside it and is only effective if not a single gnat gets into them? These are good but I have two plants left in plastic pots 1L I want to flip them and have a full garden and at the very least it might work (gnats) or keep them from moving to other plants.

Now the freaking dinkin pm… If it stays away thats what I call a rollercoaster ride of emotions ending in happiness for now. I suprisingly handled it well the way I see it I was going to spend all this money on weed anyway.

Last two potential plants to flip.

Muahaha Im doing it. Nun to lose fudge it. Theyre not infected and so far are well groomed. High hopes. If I make it Im getting like 100gs dabs and will carry on like nothin happened or just simply wont work. Wont know unless you try.

Fuck me the banana candy I might keep it. Watch me end up with a large collect of moms just because of their taste but poor hash yield. This stuff is really like candy Ive never tasted actual sugar on the exhale like I do here. They have candy strains but its not always sweet as they smell idk.

edit I see no gnats in the plastic pot plants the rest of them. so theyre good to flip after I do the same thing to them.

Whats a good on off cycle time for the fans?

I'd suggest starting around 2 mins ON 1 minute OFF, or something else using a 2/3 overall ON time ratio. Like 1m ON 30 seconds OFF, etc.. That way its not running around 33% of the time, regardless of the timing frequency. You probably don't wanna cycle the fans on/off too fast, like 10 seconds on and 5 seconds off for example. You're basically just wanting to emulate how an oscillating fan would work, and not constantly blowing on the same leaves for too long.

Then just keep an eye on the plants and watch for stress. I know for sure you can't just place those 20" box fans too close to the plants in cramped space running 24/7 without some negative effects. You''ll just have to figure it out through trial and error. A little wind stress isn't the end of the world, especially if you already know to expect it.. Variables are always changing, and as the canopy gets bigger you might need to alter the cycles. Being perpetual, you'll want to figure out which settings work best for your static box fans in each area.

If all seems well, maybe go back up to 75% on. So 3 mins on 1 minute off, etc.

If you do notice problems, like leaf clawing or burn spots closest to the fans, then back off a little, and maybe go down to 50% on. Or 1/1.

Lil over a week flipped 3x3 so wow when I saw it it spread to other plants within days so this is good, a sign its working. I think lights off and temp swings might contribute to them also rh. I keep plucking leafs but yea it should of popped up by now if it was as bad as I thought. But Im only a pm spotting away from tossing by the whole plant.

It just triggers a natural instinct in me to not consume it like a loaf of bread, I wouldnt eat any of it if it had one mold spot. Im frugal but thats a different story

Lets freakin go! Full garden. If it dont work so what least I tried but if I do Im gonna get a big paycheck!

Man Im wondering if what I even have now is save to dab. Remember earlier the colas just dying one by one? Well the branches inside them on the nastiest part of it did not have the symptom of fusarium wilt nor did it spread to otherplants. I just read a reddit that theyve seen before the gnats will attack enough to cause the same symptoms almost.

So Im erring on the side of that but need more confirmation. Hell I have athsma and I dont notice any negative since dabbing it all this time only if I have too much but thats with anything you inhale. Because the plant that had that the worst had the worst infestation I ever seen. The clones with less gnats had whiter roots and only like a gram or two suddenly wilt and die, cut out and lived.

I just chopped everything being the first time I really dealt with anything like that and now this. Next time Im tossing the whole plant. This just warmed me up to doing so as not gonna lie I wanted to keep it all till the last second. Now I can toss a plant on harvest day for all I care which is good I guess.

Should I toss all my hash to be safe? Open to suggestions, Im listening now but its a tough call, hoping it can come with logical explination. Its a weird situation because people dont think this can happen in dtw coco with the gnats but if I dig deeper people say yuhuh they feed on the roots.

I had a number of runs I didnt have enough gnats to have any issues seemingly as it was what I call a good chop. No reason to worry, and had one amungst all this with shared drippers reservoirs same room. Mold doesnt play and saw that with pm and botritus but not this fusarium or the like which isnt common. I feel like Im venturing less charted territory when I look into this.

The plant that had it the worst was next to a clone that only had one twiggy flower that started yellowing. The rest of the 99% of plant was fine in same tent but near by tents had a gram or two do it so I just cut it out and harvested. Thats the jist of my stash. I should of undoubtedly tossed the worst plant but anyway.

What a buzzkill pythium was where I should of focused on. Not the fursaium. Soooo I should toss the rest of my stuff and only consume plants with white roots to some degree and no damping off. My grow had problems pretty much from the start I just have these little successful chops inbetween all my grows.

Well I only had so much left which isnt good but only like 1/3rd of it was bad so most of it was probably good. Now Im that much stronger as a grower to do the right thing. I need a ro filter to reduce risk of pythium which I know comes in tap water. As suggested so do the gnats.

So I may have to toss all these and try yet again with gnats fully prevented but then the tap is another issue. Ill need a second to let this sink in damn, a whole other side of mold to worry about. The gnats got into the veg tent so just cause I didnt see gnats didnt mean they werent in the rootball in larva state so I have gnats stuck in the pots.

I would just use this as a test for pm maybe. Damn could be overreacting but Ive been ignoring good advice that I should start doing. Just waiting to see what happens will get fustrating and expensive idk any thoughts let me know.

Yet again growing from seed sound like a good idea but at mercy of bad breeder practice lots of these things can spread through seed. I dont think theres a brighter side to it its just risky but people get lucky for decades at a time from cleanly to dirty. Most people use tap.

Aaaah Im trippin I mean, yes I just lost my stash or I think I did but its getting relieving through more research. I just never dove into pythium before I thought it was fusarium only to think its not even that. Chlorene kills pythium and its rare to find it in tap but thats a good reason to go ro. Aaargh!

So yea I been down this road with the gnat before it only takes one. Gonna throw all these away and plant my next cuts that are ready to plant now and prevent the gnats from the beginning. Il keep one plant to test if the pm will stay at bay its a cheap test. To run a full garden was a desperate move but then again it was suggested it “may” work so I got ansy.

Now that Im back to buying, Im not messing with mold I just didnt know how it goes. Im just gonna yea try to get back to 100% self serve with these cuts but woof Im such a gambler even though I dont gamble. This hobby teaches me a lot about my self.