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sbirch

sbirch

Active Member
helios-spectrum.jpgSo I got an email back from the Bysen LED people, who are making the Helios look a like. The lady basically said in broken English type "for the exact chip model, ourRaw material director said it's a secret unless the customer had ordered our lights or are selling our item in their marke" Which of course makes one a bit weary!!! However she did say this "For helios series light, in the centre of each cluster 460nm:630nm= 1:7 we use cree led as lighting source and around 660nm：470nm：640nm：440nm=6：2：2：2 we use epistar led as lighting source" which attests to them trying to copy the Helios Basic spectrum that is posted on their web site that. She quoted me prices that are 1/3 that of Helios...Only problem is I have never even seen anyone saying that they ran a Helios grow. So it goes!!!

 
airmarkes

airmarkes

Member
sbirch said:
View attachment 2803620So I got an email back from the Bysen LED people, who are making the Helios look a like. The lady basically said in broken English type "for the exact chip model, ourRaw material director said it's a secret unless the customer had ordered our lights or are selling our item in their marke" Which of course makes one a bit weary!!! However she did say this "For helios series light, in the centre of each cluster 460nm:630nm= 1:7 we use cree led as lighting source and around 660nm：470nm：640nm：440nm=6：2：2：2 we use epistar led as lighting source" which attests to them trying to copy the Helios Basic spectrum that is posted on their web site that. She quoted me prices that are 1/3 that of Helios...Only problem is I have never even seen anyone saying that they ran a Helios grow. So it goes!!!
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I can se clearly now, my money is gone! :wink:
 
W

WeJuana

Active Member
I think it's finally time to sell off some of my lights that aren't being used and I figured I would give people on the forum first dibs on the lights.


All lights are in excellent condition, fully functional and have only been used for 1 harvest period (approx 700 hours).


Spectra (GrowHydroLED)
(3) Spectra LED 180 - $300 each or $800 for all 3


Blackstar
Lighthouse Hydro BlackStar 500w LED Grow Light UV - $325
Lighthouse Hydro BlackStar 900w LED Grow Light UV - $525
Lighthouse Hydro BlackStar Chrome 720w LED Grow Light FSF - $600


HydroGrowLED
336X-PRO - 500W LED Grow Light - $1000


PM me if you are interested in purchasing, first come first serve basis.


All prices include shipping to anywhere in the lower 48 WITH SHIPPING INSURANCE and I will have them sent out within 48 hours of receiving payment. Payment via PayPal to cover both parties.
 
OrangeHaze

OrangeHaze

Well-Known Member
sbirch said:
View attachment 2803620So I got an email back from the Bysen LED people, who are making the Helios look a like. The lady basically said in broken English type "for the exact chip model, ourRaw material director said it's a secret unless the customer had ordered our lights or are selling our item in their marke" Which of course makes one a bit weary!!! However she did say this "For helios series light, in the centre of each cluster 460nm:630nm= 1:7 we use cree led as lighting source and around 660nm：470nm：640nm：440nm=6：2：2：2 we use epistar led as lighting source" which attests to them trying to copy the Helios Basic spectrum that is posted on their web site that. She quoted me prices that are 1/3 that of Helios...Only problem is I have never even seen anyone saying that they ran a Helios grow. So it goes!!!
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Yea, supposedly the Cree's are only in the center, but with epistar as well it sounds nice. Man, it's tempting to take a chance. And ya, havn't really heard anyone barking about Helios. I like that they disassemble easy too. I have not heard back from the Helios website. You think Bysen stole the tech or that Helios was just reselling? the Helios website says they are based in Canada.
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

Well-Known Member
OrangeHaze said:
Yea, supposedly the Cree's are only in the center, but with epistar as well it sounds nice. Man, it's tempting to take a chance. And ya, havn't really heard anyone barking about Helios. I like that they disassemble easy too. I have not heard back from the Helios website. You think Bysen stole the tech or that Helios was just reselling? the Helios website says they are based in Canada.
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Bysen is the manufacturer of the Helios panel. Their is no look a like/knockoff/copy because BYSEN patented the module in CHINA and have sued other factories who copy it. The helios website in Canada is just reseller marking it up by 300% for a "small" profit :P lol Cree in the center (1watt low bin ) Is just for hype and I doubt they use anything decent around them either; Bysen's direct pricing @ a PROFIT should tell you everything.....but that secondary lens makes up for it!!! ha...not

I've only seen one grower run the helios under the "raptor usa" name and he did quite well with them.............reliability is the issue though, it's your $$$ and your call. They are better built than most china stuff though and honor the 3 yr warranty.
 
OrangeHaze

OrangeHaze

Well-Known Member
PSUAGRO. said:
Bysen is the manufacturer of the Helios panel. Their is no look a like/knockoff/copy because BYSEN patented the module in CHINA and have sued other factories who copy it. The helios website in Canada is just reseller marking it up by 300% for a "small" profit :P lol Cree in the center (1watt low bin ) Is just for hype and I doubt they use anything decent around them either; Bysen's direct pricing @ a PROFIT should tell you everything.....but that secondary lens makes up for it!!! ha...not

I've only seen one grower run the helios under the "raptor usa" name and he did quite well with them.............reliability is the issue though, it's your $$$ and your call. They are better built than most china stuff though and honor the 3 yr warranty.
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Yea, just a "small" markup. I hear what you're saying though. The Helios facebook has videos of them demoing units and talking about features as if they made them, but I'm more inclined to believe you since they have not emailed me back. They don't seem to want to answer my questions lol. It's pretty common in all areas of business for people to rush into manufacturing with a pending patent and have their tech stolen so I thought maybe that was the case here. Needless to say I find it surprising that they originate from China with name brand parts even if they are low bin.

I guess it just comes down to saving the money if you don't have it. I went ahead and ordered some Kessils. I think Im gonna go with 2 350s and 4 150s and call it a day. I can order a couple a month and work towards a decent setup without laying out 8-900 all at once.

Props to everyone with the flow to throw down on Apaches I guess, heh.
 
FranJan

FranJan

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airmarkes said:
I'd love some other interesting threads about led to read, if u may send a link.. thanks :D
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Here I stole these links from some dick in Scotch's link thread ;).

http://donklipstein.com/index.html- Probably the best collection of links and info on LEDs, or light for that matter IMO. For beginners to all you "pros" out there
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http://www.ecse.rpi.edu/~schubert/Light-Emitting-Diodes-dot-org/- The Dean of LED. Everyone using/building LEDs should have a copy of his book, (along with Power Supplies for LED Drivers by Steve Winder) on their Comp/phone/tablet. Even if you can only read the indexes' right now
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Reading wise I like these places;
http://www.sslighting.net/- The Source.

http://www.led-professional.com/

http://ledsmagazine.com/

http://www.electronicsweekly.com/com...displays-opto/- EW's Opto section

http://www.ledjournal.com/main/

And a link to see what Google News finds about LED Lighting today. (No re-direct. None of that BS, https),- Click Here
 
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Airalison

New Member
OrangeHaze said:
has anyone purchased from msledstore.com? they have Helios 210W lights with 8w Cree's for 229+ international shipping (bout 50 bucks to the US). I looked up the helios website and they want 500 + shipping for the same light. Can someone please look at this link and give me some opinions on whether it seems legit? I'm skeptical, but the prices are rock bottom. I'm not advertising. I just ordered a pair of Kessils but now I see this and I may cancel/return. http://www.msledstore.com/210-watt-helios-led-plant-lamp-indoor-hydroponic-grow-light-h160d.html
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I click in this website and found that the price is 500+, did you miss the activity of this site? (like some 50% off activity)
 
OrangeHaze

OrangeHaze

Well-Known Member
Airalison said:
I click in this website and found that the price is 500+, did you miss the activity of this site? (like some 50% off activity)
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yea, looks that way. I went and checked the link they are $388 now instead of $229. They were not listed as being on sale when I originally posted about them
 
Green in The Garden

Green in The Garden

Member
looks good.. i mean.. if the light is good with nice par output, and the light will Work for a coulpe of years, and you at the same time will get seeds woth around 100euro.. the yes its a great offer.. but.. if the light goes out before a year, the deal aint that good... :)
 
FranJan

FranJan

Well-Known Member
The "HighLite". I think someone was high when they came up with that :eyesmoke:.

"We believe the HighLite will produce results equivalent to somewhere between a 250W HPS and a 400W HPS, but with a power consumption of around 186W."
Somewhere between a 250 and 400? That sucker better be a 400 in this day and age. And it's gonna cost ya a bit more than $440.00 if your not in the hood. It's LEDs like this that justify buying a CMH :). I wonder what factory that sucker is coming out of?
 
bigbloom311

bigbloom311

Active Member
Hey guys!

I buyed this led from china (know about china reputation but wanted to give a try)

payed $500,00 dollars and it says its a 1000w Led.



I wanted to know how much true watts it got

can somebody explain me a little bir more about this led!? and if it was a good deal..

Thank you guys!

im from Brazil sorry my porr english

here is the link of the led on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1000W-LED-Grow-Light-10Spectrums-IR-Indoor-Hydroponic-System-Plant-Ufo-Hot-/261287906776?pt=US_Hydroponics&hash=item3cd5f90dd8
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

Well-Known Member
bigbloom311 said:
Hey guys!

I buyed this led from china (know about china reputation but wanted to give a try)

payed $500,00 dollars and it says its a 1000w Led.



I wanted to know how much true watts it got

can somebody explain me a little bir more about this led!? and if it was a good deal..

Thank you guys!

im from Brazil sorry my porr english

here is the link of the led on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1000W-LED-Grow-Light-10Spectrums-IR-Indoor-Hydroponic-System-Plant-Ufo-Hot-/261287906776?pt=US_Hydroponics&hash=item3cd5f90dd8
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Do you REALLY want us to answer this^^^???? ............you already bought it!!!! enjoy it ...........be safe and happy growing
 
bigbloom311

bigbloom311

Active Member
If is good or not.. I'll see by myself.. I just want a little help here to figure it out how many true watts its consume.. Dont want a expensive electric bill

feel me ?
 
420Barista

420Barista

Well-Known Member
they got a thing called a killawatt you can get on ebay that will give you true wattage of whatever you plug in thru it
 
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