Maine Outdoor 2020 (first timer)

D'sNuts

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I say 2nd week in August in Maine is flowertime,.
Doesn't really matter to me as I always go by trich color to know when to chop.
So Oct 14 is roughly 8 weeks.

Will you have room in your freezer?
 

ganga gurl420

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Temps mid 60's to high 50's during the day and getting around 46 during the night. No matter how many times I put anti-snail granules, I'm pulling off my two biggest plants around 250 snails off the leaves/stem every two weeks they get their visit. Their shit seems to be a risk for disease but luckily nothing showing and sprayed them down. On that patch only 1 is flowering, others are still just throwing pistils.

Temps will go back to the 70's at the end of the month but then dropping again. Just wondering with these temps if I should defoliate or if I should let them be because the foliage may protect the insides? I've grown indoors and in lower latitudes but never dealt with these temps. I grew up having temps in 80's/90's all the way to October, the biggest problems I faced there were bud worms and these little bastard black beetles.
Just throw out some bowls of beer around your plants. The slugs will go into it and drown. When it comes to beer vs plants they will want the beer trust me. I had around 50 slugs in 1 bowl just from putting it out for 8 hours.
 

Ladyalthea

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Hey what is PM? Couple pages back people were talking about it been kind of busy and haven't been paying much attention unfortunately. I've got the yellow leaves but I've also got buds. The weird thing is the plant doesn't smell anymore. I've just been picking off the leaves as they yellow, I thought it was because of the nutrients I had been putting in there it seems when I stopped using them things started turning green again . I've been flushing them with regular water. now it seems the yellow and not so yellow leaves are getting brown spots, I kind of put it up to the cold weather at night I'm up in Farmington.
This is train wreck.
 

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NewEnglandFarmer

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Hey what is PM? Couple pages back people were talking about it been kind of busy and haven't been paying much attention unfortunately. I've got the yellow leaves but I've also got buds. The weird thing is the plant doesn't smell anymore. I've just been picking off the leaves as they yellow, I thought it was because of the nutrients I had been putting in there it seems when I stopped using them things started turning green again . I've been flushing them with regular water. now it seems the yellow and not so yellow leaves are getting brown spots, I kind of put it up to the cold weather at night I'm up in Farmington.
This is train wreck.
Powdery mildew. I've seen it on our lilac leaves during wet spells in years past but really didn't see much at all this year anywhere here. Been awfully dry.

As I understand it from reading you want to avoid it proactively but if it comes anyway then foliar application of hydrogen peroxide solution supposedly works--prevent it by not letting your foliage sit wet for extended periods (if weather permits of course). Have also read that spraying postassium bicarbonate solution on the plants helps prevent PM (loves a slightly acidic damp surface, Potassium Bicarbonate is alkaline). Take it a step further and boost your plant's resilience and immunity from pests and disease generally by keeping it healthy and supplementing with things like potassium silicate and aloe vera (just administer small amounts routinely in their water).

Regarding your yellow leaves, all I can say is one of my strains that's furthest along in bud ripening has lost a lot of color and seems like several yellow leaves turn yellow daily. I figured she wanted a little more Nitrogen so fed some fish hydrolysate at the next watering but didn't seem to make a difference. So not sure what your issue is. What's your growing medium like? What have you fed and when?

How cold it get up over there the last few nights? Only reached the high forties hear, but I'm just a few miles from the ocean.
 

thumper60

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Hey what is PM? Couple pages back people were talking about it been kind of busy and haven't been paying much attention unfortunately. I've got the yellow leaves but I've also got buds. The weird thing is the plant doesn't smell anymore. I've just been picking off the leaves as they yellow, I thought it was because of the nutrients I had been putting in there it seems when I stopped using them things started turning green again . I've been flushing them with regular water. now it seems the yellow and not so yellow leaves are getting brown spots, I kind of put it up to the cold weather at night I'm up in Farmington.
This is train wreck.
I dont see pm ? Iam so sorry to say this but no way do those plants have time to finish where you are Iam sw of you, looks to be lacking ferts?
 

Ladyalthea

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Hey thanks, I've battled powdery mildew on my pumpkin plants for more years than I care to mention. the only thing that seemed to really work on them was apple cider vinegar the kind that still has the mother and water.

The medium is the maine coast compost and soil, A friend gave me a mixture of nutrients to use but when I was using them in earnest is when the yellowing started.

They are in pots, just two little plants, I figure if it gets to where we will have an actual Frost I will try and move them inside for the evening.
 

NewEnglandFarmer

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Progress Report Week 22: sunny, dry, nights starting to get down in the forties. Bud growth seems to be accelerating--thinking I may have 3-4 weeks more on the Tomahawk and possibly the Orange Blossom Special.

Do they like extra water during bloom? Thinking I ought to give them 2 really deep drinks per week now that it's not raining.

Continue feeding right to the end or taper off? Since I'm organic I'm not worried about "the flush" but wondering if I taper off nutrients the last couple weeks would that help optimize flavor.

Buds are very sticky now and starting to develop some delightful fragrance. Each strain has its own scent but at this point they're all delicious. Can't wait to check out the scent and flavor of these when finished.

Here's my assistant helping out on the Sunday morning rounds:
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Chinook Haze really developed a lot this week:
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Orange Blossom Special starting to fill out now:
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Copper Chem moving along slowly but surely:
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Tomahawk still out ahead of the pack:
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And last but not least Cherry Wine gaining a little heft this week:
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Tomahawk really fading. Got me a little concerned. Was she a little hungry going into flower? Or just this particular strain fades early?
Seems like several leaves a day go yellow:
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At what point should I be tying branches to support the weight?

Happy gardening everyone. Hope these last few weeks go well!
 

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GrOwThMoNgeR

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Hey what is PM? Couple pages back people were talking about it been kind of busy and haven't been paying much attention unfortunately. I've got the yellow leaves but I've also got buds. The weird thing is the plant doesn't smell anymore. I've just been picking off the leaves as they yellow, I thought it was because of the nutrients I had been putting in there it seems when I stopped using them things started turning green again . I've been flushing them with regular water. now it seems the yellow and not so yellow leaves are getting brown spots, I kind of put it up to the cold weather at night I'm up in Farmington.
This is train wreck.
Sounds like cal-mag deficiency when you get those brown spots it's usually because it's just getting rain water.
 

GrOwThMoNgeR

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Progress Report Week 22: sunny, dry, nights starting to get down in the forties. Bud growth seems to be accelerating--thinking I may have 3-4 weeks more on the Tomahawk and possibly the Orange Blossom Special.

Do they like extra water during bloom? Thinking I ought to give them 2 really deep drinks per week now that it's not raining.

Continue feeding right to the end or taper off? Since I'm organic I'm not worried about "the flush" but wondering if I taper off nutrients the last couple weeks would that help optimize flavor.

Buds are very sticky now and starting to develop some delightful fragrance. Each strain has its own scent but at this point they're all delicious. Can wait to check out the scent and flavor of these when finished.

Here's my assistant helping out on the Sunday morning rounds:
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Chinook Haze really developed a lot this week:

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Orange Blossom Special starting to really fill out now:

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Copper Chem moving along slowly but surely:

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Tomahawk still out ahead of everyone else:
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And last but not least Cherry Wine steadily gaining:
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Tomahawk really fading. Got me a little concerned. Was she a little hungry going into flower? Or just this particular strain fades early?
Seems like serveral leaves a day go yellow:
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At what point should I be trying this branches to support the weight?

Happy gardening everyone. Hope these last few weeks go well!
I use bamboo sticks in the center and tie onto it the ones that fall over. Best to do it before they stress. Learned that from Brown Dirt Warrior. :D
 

Seawood

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I keep feeding until the end. There’s been a lot of debate over this for years and there’s no science that supports starving your plants to improve the final product. Makes no sense from a botanical standpoint once you do some reading. Lots of misguided practices that have become part of the cannabis culture....pot heads are suckers for snake oil and “bro science”. Fading is normal...some strains just yellow more/faster than others. Stay the course, don’t do anything extreme, make sure your plants are sufficiently supported and enjoy the ride!
 

NewEnglandFarmer

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I keep feeding until the end. There’s been a lot of debate over this for years and there’s no science that supports starving your plants to improve the final product. Makes no sense from a botanical standpoint once you do some reading. Lots of misguided practices that have become part of the cannabis culture....pot heads are suckers for snake oil and “bro science”. Fading is normal...some strains just yellow more/faster than others. Stay the course, don’t do anything extreme, make sure your plants are sufficiently supported and enjoy the ride!
The only way it might make sense to me is with some synthetic fertilizers maybe they do affect plant smell/flavor negatively and are best minimized before harvest. Or maybe a really noxious organic fertilizer. I was thinking I'd back off the fish hydrolysate the last couple weeks maybe, but honestly I really have no idea. Plants certainly seem to love the stuff and I guess it's all about keeping the plants healthy and vibrant.

It is interesting how in a way you're watching these plants slowly dying...I mean they may still be in good shape but their days are numbered and at this point here they're all starting to fade. But that's the lifecycle and the buds represent rebirth next spring.
 

NewEnglandFarmer

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Week 23 Report: beautiful fall weather this past week, turned suddenly colder Friday with overnight lows in the thirties last night and Friday but no frost yet. Could be close tonight. Yellow leaves showing up on all plants. Aromas are getting strong--earthy spices and citrus mostly, a little black pepper on the Tomahawk.

This week's weather report looks good for now--Teddy will pass by in the Gulf of Maine so we won't see much rain or wind. Winds have been gusty this week, had to reinforce part of my wooden trellis with a guy rope. No broken branches yet.

Saw one tiny green inchworm, other than that saw no cats at all. Bt seems to be doing its job. Didn't see any bud rot this week, expect for one tiny spot that I'm not even sure was rot (it didn't seem to start from the inside).

Hoping this weather holds for a couple more weeks and maybe it will be time to start some harvesting.

Here's to everyone having a good fall and harvest--may the weather gods smile upon you.

Just a stellar crisp New England autumn day here today. A little color starting to come in the red maples:
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The gang up close:
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Chinook Haze:
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Orange Blossom Special:
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Copper Chem:

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Tomahawk--really fading fast and losing leaves. Also, some of the leaves started turning very dark, almost black, since it got cold overnight:
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NewEnglandFarmer

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Hopefully they'll get a strong shot of sunlight today and bounce right back.

You must be up in the foothills? Only dropped to 40 here last night--thanks to the ocean.

Hang in there, sounds like we have a warmup coming our way soon. And not a drop of rain in sight. Good for the harvest but not good in any other respect. Brook I was using to irrigate last night is down to a few shallow puddles. The poor frog that lived in the spot where I drew water all summer is down to about a 2-foot diameter pool.
 

GrOwThMoNgeR

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We're getting the same up here. Temps will be stable until mid-october but I checked today and buds on all at one location and only on 3 of ten in another, nothing as developed as yours. We literally haven't even hit 12-12 yet. That means only partial harvest at 6 weeks flowering, I won't be able to let them finish I reckon. Leaf damage: they're curling up from the cold. But I guess more "heady" trichomes will be there.

The Tomahawk is looking really beautiful. I am looking at yours and can say I'm optimistic you're gonna have a happy harvest.
 

Sevenleaves

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12-12 means nothing outside. I have already Jared my MOBs, dam good smoke too. Both were budding second week of July. The rest will go in another 2 weeks or so.
 

GrOwThMoNgeR

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12-12 means nothing outside. I have already Jared my MOBs, dam good smoke too. Both were budding second week of July. The rest will go in another 2 weeks or so.
In July we have like 18-20 hours of light. Photoperiod is photoperiod and means a lot more than nothing outside. You're in a latitude that is lower, the day change is much more rapid, and the plants notice. In Arctic places the change is slow and light is long.
 

NewEnglandFarmer

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Sprayed Bt this morning. No sign of cats anywhere. Wondering if I can stop at this point, at least on the plants that may be only 2 weeks from harvest (Tomahawk and Orange Blossom hopefully).

Have heard different reports about whether Bt affects flavor at all. Mostly I hear no but I've also heard some people say it will if you don't stop spraying the last "several weeks." This morning the odor seemed particularly strong (I've been using 1t/gallon of the dry mix, which is a little on the heavier side according to the directions).

Opinions? If the cats. aren't established at this point, would 1 week be enough for them to get a foothold? What I sprayed today should protect for about 1 week, then there'd be an additional week with no Bt.

Teddy is passing by today--we've got clouds and gusty winds but doesn't sound like we're getting any rain. Then a big warmup with more sun on the way.

Man I hope this weather holds into October...
 
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