skunkushybrid
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Yeah, sativas can rip. the only reason my grapefruit are so short is becuse they all came from an excellent mother, picked because of her stockier build.
Mandala Seeds Kalichakra and Satori
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skunkushybrid
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Day 9 from veg'? Or day 9 from seed?
babygro
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Hey Skunky !
Sorry I didn't make it clear - they're currently 9 days from breaking the soil surface and 5 days for the smaller one - for some reason that one took a lot longer than the others!
nongreenthumb
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I'm quite intrigued by this strain
speed queen
Type: mostly indicaContains land race genetics from: Himachal Pradesh,North IndiaCultivation: indoor/outdoor (up to 48° latitude, balcony, greenhouse)Light: 400 W/m2Flowering time: 55 days/September (south); mid October (north)Yield: 400-450 gr/m2 (dry weight)High: the “surfers” choice - a stimulating, and balanced indica buzz that does not put you to sleep. Pleasantly relaxing yet leaves plenty of energy for social activities and is a great daytime grass.Medical potential: this strain shows potential against anxiety and depression.
it the potential against anxiety and depression that interests me
sorry to spam your grow babygro
speed queen
Type: mostly indicaContains land race genetics from: Himachal Pradesh,North IndiaCultivation: indoor/outdoor (up to 48° latitude, balcony, greenhouse)Light: 400 W/m2Flowering time: 55 days/September (south); mid October (north)Yield: 400-450 gr/m2 (dry weight)High: the “surfers” choice - a stimulating, and balanced indica buzz that does not put you to sleep. Pleasantly relaxing yet leaves plenty of energy for social activities and is a great daytime grass.Medical potential: this strain shows potential against anxiety and depression.
it the potential against anxiety and depression that interests me
sorry to spam your grow babygro
babygro
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Hiya Matt
I've read quite a bit about Hashberry from Mandala. Apparently it was voted in the top 10 strains of 2006 by High Times Magazine, which is some achievement from a small breeder like Mandala., just goes to show hoe seriously he takes his genetics.
Hashberry is Indica dominant I beleive and this time around I was particularly looking for Sativa dominant strains otherwise I may have tried it myself. White Satin is supposedly their 'low light' level strain and low odour I beleive - perfect for stealth grows.
Good luck with your Hashberry if you decide to go with it. I'm really looking forward to growing these out and they require very little feed by the sounds of it.
babygro
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No worries NGT, the more the merrier really.
All of Mandala's strains sound interesting, partially because they include such good information with their strains - far more than most seed breeders in my opinion. It is quite difficult to decide which one to go for they all sound good and all have certain advantages. I was mostly interested in their Sativa and Sativa dominant genetics as I grew out a mostly Indica plant in my last grow and wanted to try a Sativa from a good breeder that didn't get out of control in terms of height and gave decent yields.
If you look at the yields of both Kalichakra and Satori you'll see they're both pretty high yielders, which surprised me somewhat coming from an Sativa dominant plant. What I think they've done is taken advantage of the small amounts of Indica they've crossed these pure Sativas with and thats where the yield is coming from. Even the leaves look very Indica like at the moment - very broad leaved. So they've managed to breed in some of the stronger better Indica traits into a plant that's primarily Sativa and gives a Sativa high.
The next grow after this one I'm seriously thinking about taking on a pure Sativa, perhaps one of the Hazes.
babygro
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Thanks for stopping by LJ and for the heads up on Kali and Satori's high - I've heard the Satori is a bit trippy and psychedelic!
Strangely the Kalichakra's seem a lot more vigorous than the Satori's at the moment - all the Kali's are buzzing along merrily, the Satori's all seem a few days behind and the 4th one way behind due to it popping the soil surface 4 days after the others!
skunkushybrid
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That is strange.
It can only be that the satori's are not as fresh... just needed that bit more water in them to grow. Only thing that makes sense really.
Bigbud
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Looking good babygro
I see you changed soil and hope you find out by the end of this grow if its the water or nutes causeing the Mg deficiency, though from what I have read im going with the nutes
Never heard of these strains before, they sound very nice do you have any pics of what your buds will turn out like ?
I see you changed soil and hope you find out by the end of this grow if its the water or nutes causeing the Mg deficiency, though from what I have read im going with the nutes
Never heard of these strains before, they sound very nice do you have any pics of what your buds will turn out like ?
babygro
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Heya Skunky
I just put it down to it being a different strain and therefore possessing a different hybrid vigour. Could be freshness of seeds as well of course.
I tried a different germination method this time as well. I know people develop their own ways of germinating seeds and tend to stick to them but I do beleive some methods carry less risk than others.
The first time round I used the 'soak in water for 24 hours' method and then between two moist paper towels in a tupperware container. All 3 seeds cracked and produced a taproot and want on to become mature plants - 100% germination. However, since then I've learnt that that process carries certain risks - picking up the seed and planting the taproot in the seedling soil being one of them, the risk of the soaking water penetrating the seed hull and rotting the embrionic seedling being another. I think the pre-soak, between tissue method is best for older seeds where germination problems are expected.
This time I simply mixed up the soil mixture, planted the seed and watered. Placed the pots in a warm, dark place and within about 3 days 7/8 seeds had popped the surface, it was only about 4 days later that the final one popped the soil surface. So 100% germination again and using a safer germination method.
I think I'll be sticking to this process from now on, unless dealing with very old seeds.
babygro
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Hiya Bigbud, thanks for dropping in.
Well I'm just using up the last of the Allmix now by mixing it in with some JI No 2 and adding some perlite and vermiculite simply because I feel that mixture even mixed 40:40 would have been too hot for little seedlings if not mixed in with perlite and vermiculite. I shant be using much perlite and vermiculite in the potting up mixes because modern composts already drain well and by leaving them out you include more nutrients for the plant.
I shan't be using Allmix again, I'll be going with some Westlands Multi Purpose Compost with added John Innes with about 5% vermiculite, 5% perlite, dolomite lime, calcified seaweed and some rock dust.
If Allmix was a good compost and produced good results I'd use it, the price isn't the issue, but I'm not paying top price for a compost when it doesn't do what it's supposed to - I may as well use compost 1/4 the price.
Mandala strains aren't what I'd call 'mainstream' strains, in fact I'd say they're the opposite to all these strains being mixed and hybridised in Holland at the moment. These strains originate from landrace genetics, ie genetics that are grown and cultivated outdoors where they still retain (hopefully) the genes responsibile for fuller THC realisation from UVB exposure due to their being grown and bred outdoors rather than under lights as in Holland.
By careful crossing, selection and breeding Mike from Mandala seeds has succeeded in producing F1's with excellent hybrid vigour and homogenous growth pattens whilst maintaining the carefully selected characteristics of the parents.
For 15 quid for 10 seeds, how can you afford not to give them a go?
I can't post pictures here that aren't my copyright, so take a look at the website Mandala Seeds for plenty of pictures of all their strains.
babygro
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Quick update on the Satori's and Kalichakra's.
It's now nearly 14 days since popping the surface and all 8 seems to be doing reasonably well. They're still only being fed plain water about every 4 days at the moment. The Kalichakra's still seem to be growing at a faster rate than the Satori's as can be seen by the pictures. I've rotated the pot positions as well so whilst they were shown in 1, 2, 3, 4 format, they're now reversed and shown as 4,3,2,1. The Kali's are still at the back and the Satori's still at the front.
I'm starting to get my supplies and materials ready now for the next pot up, which should happen within the next couple of weeks.
Hope you enjoy the pics.
It's now nearly 14 days since popping the surface and all 8 seems to be doing reasonably well. They're still only being fed plain water about every 4 days at the moment. The Kalichakra's still seem to be growing at a faster rate than the Satori's as can be seen by the pictures. I've rotated the pot positions as well so whilst they were shown in 1, 2, 3, 4 format, they're now reversed and shown as 4,3,2,1. The Kali's are still at the back and the Satori's still at the front.
I'm starting to get my supplies and materials ready now for the next pot up, which should happen within the next couple of weeks.
Hope you enjoy the pics.
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nongreenthumb
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Those are some nice wide indica leaves you got going on there
babygro
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It's odd isn't it, they're both supposed to be very Sativa dominant and give a Sativa up high, yet the leaf formations look very Indica. I can only assume that the breeder crossed the Sativas with an Indica to improve yield, yet kept in the Indica leaf traits and perhaps other Indica growth characteristics.
nongreenthumb
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Lets hope that carries through to the yield hey
skunkushybrid
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The one bottom left looks like it could be a runt... or was this the last seed to germ'? Still though, this could still mean it'll be a runt.
I'm sure the leaves will lengthen out as the plant grows.
I'm sure the leaves will lengthen out as the plant grows.
babygro
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Yeah, fingers crossed. The breeders estimates of indoor yields are pretty good though so lets hope they're right !Lets hope that carries through to the yield hey