MAYAN Prophecy .

eye exaggerate said:
I find the 3.5 days to december 25th a little... dunno. Why 11:11? (and all I mean is, why?) If all is number then it puts a rift in my wave. Not the santa 25th, I mean the specific meaning of the date itself as related to the cosmos. neer?
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11:11 is in relation to human DNA, and is upon the assumption that time exists. Our DNA is Helix's so it's "11" when seen sideways. 11:11 supposedly somehow correlates with DNA. I'mnot a believer in that, just helping out with "What's this 11:11 stuff"
 
RavenMochi said:
I say we all party our ass off on that date like the worlds gonna end. Just to have an excuse to. Then when it doesn't, act all shocked that nothing significant happened. :blsmoke:
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Everyone hand out free trip shit.

If the world doesn't end, the way we see it (as a species) will.
 
GalacticFederation said:
we right now as a society are living very disconnected to the spirit world, we must go back to our roots, meditate , connect to Mother Earth (Gaia , Terra) she too is a being and we must honor her and respect her, Meditation and self healing, correct our thoughts, (let go of fear, and mass panic of money , war , news media, ego , )
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I don't meditate. I just toke me some Mary J and get some THC in my brain and Shiva does the thinking from there.
 
GalacticFederation said:
Dont you see? we have been lied too, The Illuminati and the secret Government knows the truth, they want to prevent this transformation of Christ Consciousness and 2012 energy's being sent from the sun,

all holy places such as Mexico, Egypt , China, India , theses places are centers of healing for Mother Earth, the Illuminiati blood line race knew this was coming , and they controll our economy , wars , media, and the majority of humans, and human consciousness,

they will inject you virus (flu vaccines ) and say its a benefit , they will start to mess with the Earth's atmosphere (H.A.R.P.), they will create diseases, separate nations and create boundaries (Mexican border), they will make us fight our on kind, enough is enough,

But there is a consequence , earth wouldn't be able too hold this (this is where you get earthquakes ending the world) unless all humans change, Its time for a new economy and change of this system and matrix
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The Illuminati ain't got shit on the Jews. The Jews would squish them if they tried anything too big.
 
mindphuk said:
I'm confused. You're saying that if we weren't orbiting the sun time would disappear? Most physicists cannot even tell us exactly what time is but it does appear to be related to the increasing entropy of the universe. If time is not real, then Einstein's idea of spacetime is also incorrect. Is that really what you are saying?
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No, I'm saying what Einstein understood as "Space-time" was really just "Space"
 
Finshaggy said:
No, I'm saying what Einstein understood as "Space-time" was really just "Space"
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Yet Einstein showed that time is intricately woven into the fabric of space and that we all have our own independent measurements of time all depending on our individual acceleration and positions near a gravity well. It certainly sounds like you are saying Einstein was wrong. How about answering the question about the what happens to time if we no longer orbit the sun?
 
mindphuk said:
Yet Einstein showed that time is intricately woven into the fabric of space and that we all have our own independent measurements of time all depending on our individual acceleration and positions near a gravity well. It certainly sounds like you are saying Einstein was wrong. How about answering the question about the what happens to time if we no longer orbit the sun?
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I'm just looking at it from a different perspective. It still fits what Einstein said. Except for I think that when he was thinking of the speed of light on the bus taking a long time to get to you, that wasn't "light being slowed by time", It was just the lag of your brain interpreting the light that has now taken longer to get to your brain. The light is not actually being "Slowed down" because of your speed, and you do not "age slower" You simply perceive what is going on around you as slower because it is 1. taking longer to get to your eyes 2. Being processed late by your brain. So you are seeing into the past, but not because that act is happening at that moment still, but because you are seeing it after the fact that it has happened because you wee going so fast, and the LIGHT had to catch up, not the TIME.

I don't care if you pick this apart. As I said in the beginning of it, it is a little different from what he noticed. It is just something I noticed when studying Einstein. I do not wish to discredit him, it is simply my thinking, and I'm stating because you asked. So whatever you say to this is just fighting something that I know is not a fact in any way. Arguing this would be like playing tennis with a wall. In this instance I have made up my mind in a way that differs from what we are told.

I do not believe time is real.
It is equal to saying an inch is real. An inch is something that we interpret to be an inch. It does not exist without the measuring tapes and the human's remembering it. And I know this is true of a lot of things, but again arguing this is going to be like playing tennis with a wall. This is something I have decided based on my own reflection of what I have studied on the subject. Sorry if it's "Wrong" or if I explained it in a way that seems to not make sense. I'm high and a little beer buzzed.
 
Finshaggy said:
I'm just looking at it from a different perspective. It still fits what Einstein said. Except for I think that when he was thinking of the speed of light on the bus taking a long time to get to you, that wasn't "light being slowed by time", It was just the lag of your brain interpreting the light that has now taken longer to get to your brain. The light is not actually being "Slowed down" because of your speed, and you do not "age slower" You simply perceive what is going on around you as slower because it is 1. taking longer to get to your eyes 2. Being processed late by your brain. So you are seeing into the past, but not because that act is happening at that moment still, but because you are seeing it after the fact that it has happened because you wee going so fast, and the LIGHT had to catch up, not the TIME.

I don't care if you pick this apart. As I said in the beginning of it, it is a little different from what he noticed. It is just something I noticed when studying Einstein. I do not wish to discredit him, it is simply my thinking, and I'm stating because you asked. So whatever you say to this is just fighting something that I know is not a fact in any way. Arguing this would be like playing tennis with a wall. In this instance I have made up my mind in a way that differs from what we are told.

I do not believe time is real.
It is equal to saying an inch is real. An inch is something that we interpret to be an inch. It does not exist without the measuring tapes and the human's remembering it. And I know this is true of a lot of things, but again arguing this is going to be like playing tennis with a wall. This is something I have decided based on my own reflection of what I have studied on the subject. Sorry if it's "Wrong" or if I explained it in a way that seems to not make sense. I'm high and a little beer buzzed.
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The only reason I pick it apart is because of the way you say things. You make declarative statements of fact, "time isn't real" rather than "I believe that time isn't real" and when you contradict well supported science, you just sound like a loon.

From your above description, it appears you really don't understand what relativity says. Light is not slowed by time, light is the constant, time is relative. Time slows, not light. When you say we don't age slower it's our perception, how do you explain clocks moving slower? They don't perceive anything, they are synchronous when next to each other but put one a few feet farther from the center of the earth and it measures time as moving faster.

Yes, an inch or a foot is a human construct. However the actual distance is still real, amiright? Whether you call it an inch or 8.472 × 10-11 light seconds, it still is a real measurable distance.

BTW, I'm not fighting, I'm merely trying to understand what you are claiming.
 
mindphuk said:
The only reason I pick it apart is because of the way you say things. You make declarative statements of fact, "time isn't real" rather than "I believe that time isn't real" and when you contradict well supported science, you just sound like a loon.

From your above description, it appears you really don't understand what relativity says. Light is not slowed by time, light is the constant, time is relative. Time slows, not light. When you say we don't age slower it's our perception, how do you explain clocks moving slower? They don't perceive anything, they are synchronous when next to each other but put one a few feet farther from the center of the earth and it measures time as moving faster.

Yes, an inch or a foot is a human construct. However the actual distance is still real, amiright? Whether you call it an inch or 8.472 × 10-11 light seconds, it still is a real distance.
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I explained it as what I believe and said I know it's not what is generally believed. I'm reading the rest of your post now.
 
mindphuk said:
The only reason I pick it apart is because of the way you say things. You make declarative statements of fact, "time isn't real" rather than "I believe that time isn't real" and when you contradict well supported science, you just sound like a loon.

From your above description, it appears you really don't understand what relativity says. Light is not slowed by time, light is the constant, time is relative. Time slows, not light. When you say we don't age slower it's our perception, how do you explain clocks moving slower? They don't perceive anything, they are synchronous when next to each other but put one a few feet farther from the center of the earth and it measures time as moving faster.

Yes, an inch or a foot is a human construct. However the actual distance is still real, amiright? Whether you call it an inch or 8.472 × 10-11 light seconds, it still is a real distance.

BTW, I'm not fighting, I'm merely trying to understand what you are claiming.
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In response to the second one. I explained. I BELIEVE...Nothing is slowing down. I don't care what you (or science) SAY is slowing down. From what I can see. Nothing is slowing, and the light is just getting there late because of your speed. And on top of that, your brain is interpreting that late image of light, not whatever is happening in that exact instance. So he just THOUGHT the light was slowing down. But really he was just seeing the late light. Nothing was slowed, everything happened at normal speed, except you. Now that you are going light speed. But still, nothing slows.

And no, I think an inch is a measurement, and we made up measurement. An inch was just the length of some kings toe or something. But we didn't measure stuff until measurements were made. Like math itself doesn't exist, it's as fake as the words we make with our vocal cords. Like a rock isn't really a rock. But it is still real, weather or not we call it a rock, it is there.

Just because we say, "Now the length of this toe is called an inch." doesn't make it real.
 
blazinkill504 said:
lol....oh yea when i talk to most believers i do get left speechless...because of the stupidity spewin out their mouths
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Humble yourself man. Don't think you're superior to others on an intelligent level just because you have different beliefs. I'm positive there are "believers" who are way more inteligent then you and me. And yes I understand you said "most", but I still argue against that statement. Where I live nobody can honestly tell who has more inteligence between atheists and theists.
 
Stark Raving said:
This is the magical point at which all reasonable discourse ceases.
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Sorry for having an opinion outside established science. That science wouldn't be established unless people challenged the old establishment with new opinions, that later became fact.
 
Stark Raving said:
This is the magical point at which all reasonable discourse ceases.
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Gotta disagree. At this point science can't even agree with itself. Applied physics and quantum physics for instance, are having a huge issue rectifying themselves with each other. So when science can't agree, who's take do you go with. Problem with depending on established science is your constantly depending on others to do your thought processes for you. Dont misunderstand me, If I'm going to make a bet on something, I'm going to look at what science has at least in theory proven if possible, but I know even then that shits not a sure thing.
 
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mindphuk said:
Yet Einstein showed that time is intricately woven into the fabric of space and that we all have our own independent measurements of time all depending on our individual acceleration and positions near a gravity well. It certainly sounds like you are saying Einstein was wrong. How about answering the question about the what happens to time if we no longer orbit the sun?
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Quantum physisists are starting to see that Einstein made some mistakes in his calculations. Even one is final statements was "I may have been wrong about all this"
or something like that.

Polar Shift. That's what is probably gonna happen. Hell even the ancient Egyptians agree on the 2012 date.
 
Beansly said:
Quantum physisists are starting to see that Einstein made some mistakes in his calculations. Even one is final statements was "I may have been wrong about all this"
or something like that.
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That may all be true but I don't think shaggy is basing his 'opinion' on the work of quantum physics. He's just talking out of his ass and being contrarian as usual.
 
mindphuk said:
That may all be true but I don't think shaggy is basing his 'opinion' on the work of quantum physics. He's just talking out of his ass and being contrarian as usual.
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Oh I'm sure he is too.
Don't let me convince you think that I agree with anything FS says :D

haha
I'm watching Brad Melzer's Decoded (awesome show btw) marathon on History Channel and it's the 2012 episode.
They're talking about the web-bot digital prophet that predicted 9/11 and the Tsunami in Indonesia, and they asked the guy what the web-bot says about 2012.
Apparently there is a digital blank in the web-bot between December 21 2012 and April 13 2013.
It's just weird how all the these prophesies from ppl from all corers of the world correlate to each other somehow.
 
Well that gives me over a solid year to make sure I have a lb of high grade in backup for personal. I'll stay blazed off my ass for those 4 months... :p
 
mindphuk said:
That may all be true but I don't think shaggy is basing his 'opinion' on the work of quantum physics. He's just talking out of his ass and being contrarian as usual.
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I'M being contrarian? I said these are my personal beliefs and there is no point in arguing them. I am not basing that particular post on anything written in science. Your arguing a pointless point.
 
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