My 1st organic grow... pics & setup!

Endur0xX said:

Are my pots too small? (dont worry about the ones to the left of the picture... they go in a tiny dresser) I have been vegging for 40 days now and will still veg for 20 days to help filling my screen... the 3 strains I have in there are 55-60 days to harvest...so it will be about 120 days of growth total... there is not much I can do about it, just wondering if my yield will be affected or it will just be a little harder to take care of watering when root bond... they are all in 3 galls. thanks

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3 gallon pots should be ok , try dropping your light a bit ? if you can , just a suggestion ,going off the 3rd pic in the top line , it could be lower.
cant seem to find Hanabera peppers anywhere , ive asked on the thread you got info from if i can use anyother peppers , i tried Adsa , tesco all the usual suspects.... where did you get yours ?

I got mine at the grocery, ... I had to do 2 groceries to find them but I think that if you live somewhere where there is a few groceries in town, check em all out, it's a fairly common hot pepper. I lifted my lights up a little bit a 4-5 days ago because I wanted the plants to stretch a little ... what distance from the bulb do you keep yours?

Endur0xX said:

I got mine at the grocery, ... I had to do 2 groceries to find them but I think that if you live somewhere where there is a few groceries in town, check em all out, it's a fairly common hot pepper. I lifted my lights up a little bit a 4-5 days ago because I wanted the plants to stretch a little ... what distance from the bulb do you keep yours?

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Ok , i will check out some local fruit and veg stalls , maybe try sunday market ,, My lights are exactly a foot away , but they are under 600's i believe i read yours is a 400 without looking , so yours can be closer still , bear in mind my bulbs are hanging vert,....

Little update, the super lemon haze and the tangerine dream are out of the room, I cloned the blue mystic and the grapefruit and put both clones in the same 5 gallons, ... just hoping they will help a bit with the canopy.

The afghan kush is slowly catching up, the blue mystic and the tangerine dream are doing well, I just don't see much growth, they both look really healthy though and the blue mystic has a huge stem compare to the other ones.

I am hoping to see some action within the next couple weeks because I will flip to 12/12 around november 15th...

All in all, things are going fine, steady temps, no signs of pests/diseases, plants all look healthy!.


oh yeah, current light setup: ( I have been changing the supplemental lights around, in and out...)

400W HPS
400W MH
90W BLUE UFO LED GROW LIGHT 5th Generation
125W reptile lamp




Cheers

Everything is looking great. What type of reptile light? Most reptile lights I'm use to are either UV, incandescent, or IR heat bulbs and I've never seen a 125w UV bulb...

http://www.petsandponds.com/en/reptile-supplies/c194883/c219182/p17022172.html

Exo Terra Solar Glo 125 Watt
Item Code: PT 2192

The Exo Terra Solar Glo Sun Simulating Lamp is the solution to one of the most important aspects of keeping reptiles and amphibians, providing the benefits of natural sunlight. The proper balance of ultraviolet light (including UVA and UVB), visual light and infrared light (heat) in one easy-to-install bulb makes the Exo Terra Solar Glo the choice of professional breeders. The Solar Glo is a full spectrum light with carefully tuned peaks to ensure appetite, activity, brilliant colours, and calcium absorption through Vitamin D3 production, and above all to prevent metabolic bone disease.


Optimal levels of UVB, UVA, visual light and heat in one bulb
Self-ballasted mercury vapour bulb
Provides the benefits of natural sunlight
Helps prevent metabolic bone disease
Increased UVB penetration distance (+30 cm)

The Exo Terra Solar Glo is available in two wattages, 125 W and 160 W. Exo Terra refrained from developing lower wattages as lower wattages simply do not generate enough heat for these self-ballasted bulbs to work properly, making them unstable and unreliable.





And I also ordered this one just to experiment, not sure if I will use it yet on this crop though hehe... bought it on ebay: ExoTerra Reptile Moonlight Lamp 75W I figured it might help with the cold dark period in the winter, I might stick that under the table so not as much light comes out but still help keeping the roots warm!

I have the reptile light going on for an hour every other hour during light on time, just because I read some people only have it on a few hours a day for the UVB, ... dont want to over do it at this point ,.. maybe later during flowering it will be on 12 hours

Ah, nice, a real strong UV bulb. I've been tempted to buy a similar bulb by another manufacturer. How far do you keep this from the plants?

well for now I have it so it gives light to the whole canopy but it's at 6inches from the afghan kush, no signs of burn or anything yet, I am not too worry about it! my fans are keeping the light moving ( it's hanging on a bungee cord right now...) and it doesnt get too hot!

maybe more like 8-10 inches!!

Hey Enduro , looking good man , if i was planning switching to 12/12 on nov15th , i would lose the screen and just pinch any stems that get to high , you wont have time imo for the plants to stretch across the screen area , depending on if they are clones or seedlings as seedlings will vegg on longer after the switch , my info on Mercury Vapour bulbs is that the burn alot of power , create lots of heat but little in the way of light , they are said to be not much better than a incandecent light bulb for plant growth , this is only what i have read though, is your area light tight ? i only ask because you seem to be able to add alot of bulbs and still contain the heat pretty well , if your losing light through gaps at all , this may explain slow veg growth even though your ladies look healthy as you like ....Picture 3 in post at top of page clearly shows an opening , do you block this off ?

Ahh i have looked back on the thread and seen that you are sealed up...
Also i been struggling to find those peppers , but i did find this , available from most chemists , what do you think Enduro ? its made from an African plant ??
Pyrethrum (Pyrethrin)
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yes it is an opening but the wall is not that far off the screen... it's just all so tight, I can barely care for the blue mystic back there!! But eventually I will probably make another little mylar pad and do something about that opening.

And yeah I am still wondering how much growth my plants are gonna get after the switch, there is a lot of new growth coming out but I am worry it will stay bushy regardless, and I feel like I cannot vedge for so long because they are in 3 gallons pot. The 15th, it will be like 56 days since they sprouted out of the ground! I am still unsure though I will see the development, might push it till December or late November.

I would check with other growers on this forum before using enviornment-Safe Pyrethrum, it looks good to me, but we never know! Is it just for prevention you wanna use this? try ladybugs! They are cool to have around.

Yeah its just prevention man - i would rather use something organic like your peppers , but i cant get any , i have ordered lady bugs because it seemed like a cool thing to do , like open the lid up and chaaaaaaaaaaaaaarge of the lady bugs !!!

Lady bugs are the shit for sure!

I decided to tranplant my plants, I guess I can see why it's better not to weave when scrogging, all I had to do was to lift the screen up!

I can't believe how root bounded they were already, they are about 54 days old from seed and those 3 gallons pot were just not going to cut it... Not that I gave them that much more soil but enough to veg them another 15-20 days before flip.




Cheers

At least you know why the slow veg growth , good move man, also i spotted a straggler lol can you see him ?



I would pull off the dying and crisping leaves

I am so glad I made the move to transplant them... the plants are loving it.

I got a nice tea brewing for them, I couldnt find the cheese clothes, and now the alfalfa and the guano are caking around the edge, is it ok?

I will be getting a conversion bulb for my HPS any day now, I am planning on vegging until the 25th... I think another 16 days and my screen is gonna look good !

Looking much healthier man , pull off the lower dead leaves bro , plant spends energy trying to mend them plus they can attract nasties, much better growth

I heard not to remove them because the plant is still using them... but I will because I need to trim a bit to creates more airflow underneath the Blue mystic, its bushy!!!

I think the fact that the plant is still trying to use them is the point , it will try to repair them , wasting energy that could be used for new growth , i know you should not during flowering dude , it's def a must in veg bro ...clonex