i tried scrogging the "West Coast Masters" way and using their graph of how each branch should go etc. Waste of time. More plants grown vertical and lollipop at week 2 of flower IMO. I'm keeping it simply from now on.
You don't like drew's methods? What he does is pretty spot on you just have to veg ur plants for really really long. It is extremely effective especially when dealing with very low plant limits like up in the PNW.