My Eventual Perpetual Garden; Round 1: Chronic Haze Clones and Attitude seeds.

DumpsterKeeper said:

I'm gonna keep an eye on the KS. The one I have right now is growing faster than plants that were sprouted before it.

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Mine has the shortest internodal spacing of any plant I have grown yet. She is only 7" - 8" right now (will try to measure when I go back downstairs) and I will be surprised if she finishes taller than 20". Maybe I will try to take a couple cuttings from her in a week or so, if I get roots on the WoW and Wembley cuttings I took today.

I'm in the midst of my first successful cloning attempt. I've tried cloning a few different times and always got yellow leaves within a week, but this time around they appear to be working. 8 days in and no yellow leaves. They don't wobble around in the rockwool when I pick them up either, so I hope it worked this time.

You think sticking the cuttings in a cup with a ziploc bag as a humidity dome will work?

I am not the one to ask for cloning advice. My success rate is currently 0%.

I always use a propagation dome and put the clone in a root cube after dipping it in the hormone and fill the lower tray with about 1/4 inch of nute water. I use GH nutes flora micro/grow/ with like 10 drops of superthrive all mixed up in a 1 gallon jug (normal strength nutes). I'm sure whatever nute line your using will work also, it helps keep the Ph stable over a day or so, but I change the water every 3 days (Ph 5.8 ). So far I have yet to kill a clone. 100% success rate. It's easy as hell to, good luck.

Thanks for the tip, I was just using ph'd water with no nutes.

DumpsterKeeper said:

Thanks for the tip, I was just using ph'd water with no nutes.

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No problem, hopefully it works out for you. Planting a seed just takes too long sometimes.

No kidding. The way I do it without nutes seems to be working. One of the clones was still really wobbly in the cube, so I figured it wasn't taking and pulled it out. to my surprise, there were already some roots forming from the cut, so I just stuck it right back in. Next time I'll throw a little tiger bloom or supertrhive into the mix for faster results.

Here are my 2 Wonder Woman and 2 Wembley Cuttings I took yesterday. The Wembley's wilted bad at first but stood up nicely after I added the dome. The last time I tried using the bubble cloner I didnt make-shift a humidity dome, so hopefully it works better this time. Heating pad, 2 airstones, 1 ml of bioroot, 2ga RO water.




Wonder Woman is starting to crest the top of the cage and turn into a monster. I see possible thrip damage on some leaves, and perhaps some other bug damage on other plant's leaves, so I am going to try and give everyone a neem bath tomorrow or the following day.

damn from the top that baby looks like 5 feet tall. you should see if one of those fan leaves is bigger then a basketball.

That looks Wild!

I love it !

Indefinately said:

That looks Wild!

I love it !

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Let's hope it works out this time. She is almost tall enough now to start training to the top ring of the cage. I just released her lower wires a bit so the main colas can stand up with the rest of the canopy. I did the same for the Wembley who still has a lot of stretching left to do.

The first ones I tried this CCOB with didn't get any pruning and they turned into thick bushes, but they got the accidental reveg and had to be harvested early for hash. The Wonder Woman, Wembley, 'Kush', and LSD will be the last ones I CCOB until I am sure I can do it effectively.

My NLxSK seed popped up today so I threw her root riot into the cloner/dome for most of the day, and just pulled her out of the dome and threw her into a #1 smart pot with pro mix before lights out.

No time for neem spray yet today, too busy with work, so I will have to do that tomorrow morning.

The Auto showed pistils today, 24 days from germ.

I will try to resize the pics later and post a couple new ones, if any turned out good.

rasputin71 said:

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My NLxSK seed popped up today so I threw her root riot into the cloner/dome for most of the day, and just pulled her out of the dome and threw her into a #1 smart pot with pro mix before lights out.

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Sugar Black Rose (same age as the Il Diavolo Auto below)

The Auto showed pistils today, 24 days from germ.

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Garden at the end of the day.

17g of Chronic trim/popcorn, <2 pints of 91% Iso, washed 3 times.

















The clones 6 days later.




Roots on the Wembley's but not the WoW.




Flower Box:

Wembley: 13 days 12/12




Wonder Woman: 22 days 12/12




Kannabia Special: 6 days 12/12




'Kush': 7 days 12/12





Veg Box:

Sugar Black Rose: 22 Days veg




Il Diavolo [Auto]: 23 Days 18/6












White Widow: 30 days veg




LSD: 39 days veg






Afghan Kush Special: 10 days veg




NLxSK: 3 days veg




Veg at the end of the day.




Roots at the end of the day.




Flower canopy at the end of the day.






QWISO after ~20 hours.

well again great as always the wow back theres coming along very nice(FYI you have the best pics) just one question this time are you just using air stones in the cloner?

Yes, 2.5 ga of RO water, 1ml of BioRoot, 1ml of SnowStorm Ultra, and 2 air-stones.

Your kids are lookin great. The SBR you have looks nearly identical to mine right now, so I think it's safe to say DS made a pretty stable strain.

I just topped my SBR this morning above the 3rd node, and will prune off the bottom node branches later for 4 tops total. The white widow I did it to recently is looking nice. I am considering putting a cage over the 4 tops to spread them apart and do some mild LST instead of CCOB training.

Almost done chopping up the 2nd of the reveg'd plants for more hash and butter. This was my first CCOB plant and it only went about 52 days from 12/12 > reveg > dark > harvest. I got 60+ grams of fluffy buds popcorn, and trim already and still have a handful of bottom popcorn branches to trim. I will probably make another batch of hash as soon as I scrape up the last batch and clean all my equipment.

I still havent touched the 2 plants I chopped first that went 35 - 45 days before being chopped. There are lots of crystals considering how young they were. Hopefully that will be another couple oz's of trim for hash and butter.

man your plants are looking so bushy and healthy bro! I like that cloner also bro, I may have to look into building myself one.

Howard Stern said:

man your plants are looking so bushy and healthy bro! I like that cloner also bro, I may have to look into building myself one.

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I took the best looking wembley from the cloner today and threw her into pro mix, then culled the other 3 cuttings. That leaves me 1 below my limit and my new seed order should be here in a day or 2.

I really think this CCOB style of growing is the best way to go, if only I can master the pruning and training that is necessary. If I can get 10 or 12 nice tops per plant I will be a happy camper.

That being said, I think I may have stumbled across a nice alternative to uncle-bens topping method. I noticed on the last 2 plants (white widow and sugar black rose) when i went to top them that the 2nd and 3rd node branches were much more developed, and very even in height, compared to the branches from the first node. I decided to top at the 3rd node, instead of the 2nd node, then trim back the leaf and branch from the first node to leave 4 very even tops. I will post some new pics later but I think it should produce a nice yield, across 4 main colas with very even height, without any training and maybe a little minor lollipopping.

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That being said, I think I may have stumbled across a nice alternative to uncle-bens topping method. I noticed on the last 2 plants (white widow and sugar black rose) when i went to top them that the 2nd and 3rd node branches were much more developed, and very even in height, compared to the branches from the first node. I decided to top at the 3rd node, instead of the 2nd node, then trim back the leaf and branch from the first node to leave 4 very even tops. .....

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Here is the pic from yesterday to prove my case.

rasputin71 said:

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White Widow: 30 days veg

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