My first "official" grow thread with pics, and questions (comments are appreciated)

Snow Crash

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Is the light leak really what causes them not to flower? what about outdoor plants? when a plant is outdoors the night time is never pitch black. when is the last time you walked outside at night and couldnt see your hand in front of your face? never. Hell you can read a book by moonlight some lights. not including street lights. lights coming from houses. Hows come these plants arent all hermi and not budding?
Indoor and outdoor are completely different processes. It's more about stability and consistency.

Light leaks are well reported to cause issues. I myself have experienced this problem when starting 8 plants, and getting 5 males and 3 herms. Got a light tight tent and never had the same problem again.
 

lvl i k e y

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Indoor and outdoor are completely different processes. It's more about stability and consistency.

Light leaks are well reported to cause issues. I myself have experienced this problem when starting 8 plants, and getting 5 males and 3 herms. Got a light tight tent and never had the same problem again.


Yeah im in the same boat you were in out of 8 i have only been able to identify 1 female out of them all. The rest of them dont look male or female, soo hermi? I suppose this could have something to do with a light leak which i fixed around a week ago.
 

Snow Crash

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They are TOTALLY worth it.

I got my 2x4 tent from GYOsupplies (on ebay) for about $80 after shipping. My 5x5 tent from Best Choice Products, also found on Ebay, ran me about $160 after shipping.

They aren't necessarily the highest quality tents but they do the job for the price. My 2x4 is about 2 years old and is starting to degrade on me. Where the zipper meets the tent the constant zipping and unzipping has finally pulled a few threads loose. Needle and thread would be a solution... But I'm a man so I used duct tape. Works well enough.

The 5x5 I tore putting it together, I had to piss, and was working a little quicker than I probably should have been so I could put it all together. It is a small tear along the bottom corner and again... duct tape.

I swear by tents. They do require a decent amount of ventilation. My 400cfm inline fan in the 175cfm tent keeps my interior temperature about 3 degrees above my exterior temperature. My 180cfm blower keeps the 40cfm test about 6 degrees warmer than the intake. With an additional 4" axial fan as intake I can keep it within a degree or two. So I try to keep the bedroom around 71 to 73 degrees, I can use the fan controller on the 400cfm to control that deviation closer to the smaller tent's temperature.

I think a lot of people get into this with the idea of "oh, I just want to try it out." Then they do some research and realize just what is possible and things just snow ball.

I'm always devising schemes, browsing websites for product information and user reviews, and it just takes a while to soak in enough to understand the right system for you. Even now I look at the things I've bought, the decisions I made, and wish I could take it all back and start over and do it "right." Such is life. Though every day I think I can provide some guidance that is a little better tuned and understood. At least for a residential personal stash. I don't really know shit about commercial production of cannabis. I suppose it isn't all that different, just on a much larger scale at the cost of tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) invested.

As reasonably young people (not yet 30) we have time to hone the indoor skills enough to one day grow outdoors at our own homes. I don't care what it takes, I'll have acres eventually, and I believe that all this is only going to help that process go as well as possible. Think of an above ground pool sized Ebb/Flow :) Ahh, okay, I'm all baked and rambling now.
 

Kiki007

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OK...well I"m glad my pics were up too par..so were definitely looking at females then right everyone...As far as the light leak..gonna work on that when I get back to the grow room tonight..gonna buy some duct tape and really seal her off...although your probably right at the amount of light (moonlight) shouldn't be any...and if it helps them flower faster than I gotta do it. it's a shame you guys can't see how little light leak thier is but a little I guess is too much since your all in conclusion that I"m behind flowering wise as well. Hmm

@kiki...yep same plants
@snow could be stress fractures (another thought I had as well) but was unaware of that much bending must've happened during the move..but like you said they actually look OK if that's what they are.
420 - my girlfriend had a light on a smoke detector that jacked her flowering.... light leak is no joke!
but it's nice to see you're still okay thus far.
 

420Marine

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Thanks everyone..I took a pic of the light leak in the room (no flash obviously) I'll put it up tomorrow (or later on today I should say) and I know it's not perfect but I would like your opinions...I"m happy that I don't have hermies...or did I misinterpret what you guys and gals said?
 

Lord Dangly Bits

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If you can take a photo of a light leak with no flash. hahaha. I would say you have to fix it. :)

Kiki, I also had a fire Alarm that had a bright ass light on it as well in my bedroom, one time. That dam thing would keep me up at nights. i finally took a piece of clothe and duct taped it over the dam light. AT this time I was growing in my extra bedrrom, which had the same dam kind of fire alarm, so I clothe and taped it as well. Luckily I was not in flowering stage yet.
 

t0rn

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Thanks everyone..I took a pic of the light leak in the room (no flash obviously) I'll put it up tomorrow (or later on today I should say) and I know it's not perfect but I would like your opinions...I"m happy that I don't have hermies...or did I misinterpret what you guys and gals said?
Center right you'll see a calyx growing out above the whisker. Congrats, it's a girl!

There aren't any signs of males in the pictures.



Did you ever get that light leak squared away? Do I have to do field day inspection marine?!

:leaf:
 

420Marine

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Hell I"m open to a field day...always did damn well at those..my buddy whom I was stationed with in 29 stumps always ironed out our cammies and I did the field day..good trade off trust me..here's a pic of the old light leak..I have now got that 99% covered..tomorrow I"ll finish er up..

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Kiki007

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@ LORD - true true - i know exactly what you're talking about.

@ 420 - that's not as bad as it sounded... but you do need to fix it. Good job- at least you got the problem solved.
 

420Marine

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Yesterday I was able to transplant 3 of my 12 clones..one has probably another week too it the rest is up in the air at this point...to date I only officially lost two..which isn't bad but I need to work on my cloning skills. Still don't know why I have neither smell nor bud at this point since it's been 12/12 for over two weeks (two weeks and two days) from what I gather it seems to be that small light leak I had seems to have slowed them down a bit. I"ll post pics of the clones late tonight...busy day today all..ttys
 

steverthebeaver81

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youll take a bit to flower on some strains. use something like bushmaster from humboldt countys own and youll be seein buds WAY quicker. There are other products like that that help speed the process, and you can add them up to like the 3rd week in flower or longer. I use bushmaster though and have great results with it speeding things up.
 

Lord Dangly Bits

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youll take a bit to flower on some strains. use something like bushmaster from humboldt countys own and youll be seein buds WAY quicker. There are other products like that that help speed the process, and you can add them up to like the 3rd week in flower or longer. I use bushmaster though and have great results with it speeding things up.
Beginner growers beware of this product. It is VERY STRONG. Do not add much of this product at all. It can burn your plants in an instant. I have only tried it one time @ 1/4 strength and my plants went POOF!!!! But just because it is strong, does not mean it does not work. Just go really slow with it.
 
Late to the party it appears. I'm also on my first grow as well and have done almost everything that could be done wrong. I'm growing hydroponic and started around the first week of November. I have no idea what I'm growing. Just had some seeds that a friend gave me so I guess it's just dirt weed. I suppose that's fine as this was suppose to be a learning experiment. I'll post a few picks when I figure out how to do it.

today plant 2 light is 400w hps

today plant 1


about a week ago. Plant 2


about a week ago plant 1

It's a girl!! Actually, I got real lucky and both surviving plants were girls.
The light was a eye hortilux 400w metal halide


Ended up with a four foot basil plant that loved the over fertilization
was using the top drip experiment so I'm guessing late December.





 

Dick Moser

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go to post a tread,(upper left corner fourom page) go advanced( below the reply box, right corner) then click the add images option in i think the second toolbar, its goona look like a photo getting cropped. and thats how i have been doing it.
 

420Marine

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ok all...we've had some wicked weather here in the norheast and my comp was down for a bit and no laptop so update will come tomorrow gotta get all my pics on my XP machine...but we defanitely have girls for certain now as its plain as day at this point...Big Update tomorrow...promise ;)
 

420Marine

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WOW..lots happenign my good ol garden recently. So far I've:

transplanted 3 out of the 12 original clones...two of which I lost..but thier are roots on the others I don't know if I will end up keeping them all. I might trade/toss them since technially I would be over my limit with RI law.

Got 3 more clones from the original person I've been getting them from... 2 of them are "purple strains" the exact names I'm not entirely too sure on. The kid said they're "bernuckle" but I've done my research on them and they seem to be Purple Wreck (trainwreck X purple Urkel) At any rate I"ve had it and it smokes great so bottom line is whatever the name is it's gonna be good (hopefully), The other clone is just a regular super skunk..which I already clones and have three beauttiful LADIES..yep it's offical no male parts anywhere and the flowering really seems to be on it's way so I guess I"m out of the woods as of right now...

The three ladies are all doing splendid as well...I haven't checked their height in a while but they have seemed to slow down growing in the last three weeeks...from what you guys have said that's not too unnatural.

Other than that just been busy with everything..trying to broker a trade for either a "mystery purple" or a 2 superskunk clones to get either a blueberry or bubblegum..which seem like pretty kick ass strains.has anyone tried those yet?


Pics: I will put up a few now and take more tonight..have a great day all.S8000205A.jpgS8000204A.jpgS8000208A.jpg


 
Ive ben reading ur whole thread 420. Plants look amazing. I am goin to be starting my first grow in a couple weeks and I jus dont wanna have any room for error. i would really like u to help me thru little op when i start. First thing i need to know is everything i am goin to need. The lights im gonna start with is a 4' 4 bulb t5 high output fixture. Nuts im goin with technoflora for the first grow. Any other suggs.?
 

Snow Crash

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Ive ben reading ur whole thread 420. Plants look amazing. I am goin to be starting my first grow in a couple weeks and I jus dont wanna have any room for error. i would really like u to help me thru little op when i start. First thing i need to know is everything i am goin to need. The lights im gonna start with is a 4' 4 bulb t5 high output fixture. Nuts im goin with technoflora for the first grow. Any other suggs.?
Hey PJLoudJack,
If I may offer a quick response...

There are some questions to ask first.
1. What is your budget?
2. What are the short term goals when it comes to growing?
3. What are the long term goals?
4. Have you purchased anything yet?
5. How familiar are you with botany and what kind of educational background are you working with?
6. How much space will you be growing in?
7. Where is this space?
8. Is this space 100% completely possible to make "light-tight" while still allowing for constant ventilation.
9. How are you acquiring your supplies?

And please be as specific as you can about the brand and type of everything you plan to purchase. I want to know about the brand of T5. The kind of bulbs. And which technaflora bottles that you are looking at or have already.

Thanks! I hope that helps you help us to help you... or something.
 
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