My Hempy Top 44 CFL Grow Journal

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New pics, under each of those big hoods are 4x23 watt CFL's, left side is veg right side is flowering; the flap dividing the rest of it us up in the pic. Right side small hoods have a 23 and 42 watt CFL and left side has 2 23w in one hood with a Y splitter and extender.

Same plant pictured in the single shots, see how she loves her CFLs!

I need some advice on sexing... as soon as these are clone size, as I will only need 1 successful clone or so per week, how should I go about sexing? Should I grow them up to a size they can be cloned at and do the clones from birth into 12/12 to determine sex?

Another thing I am struggling with is light timing for the clones once I get them into hemp buckets... as they are clones they will go much faster so for my purposes would it make sense to put them into 12/12 from 'birth'? Will this produce different fruits?

fiery im goin to be following ur grow seems im the only one but seems ur off to a good start but ive read clear cup arnt the best choice because of the roots or somthing of that sorts bu tits lokking nice and healthy happy growing

tokintwin said:

fiery im goin to be following ur grow seems im the only one but seems ur off to a good start but ive read clear cup arnt the best choice because of the roots or somthing of that sorts bu tits lokking nice and healthy happy growing

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In the last pictures those are 10" pots not solo cups, transplanted from those a while back.

Thanks for the interest! Got a few others peeking in here too!

hey fiery you should take clones then give them about a week to root, and then put them in flower... at least that the advise I got and have followed and its worked fine, come stop by my grow I am a hempy grower also using cfls.

ur rite shit looks like ur doin better than me then i had three plants but i moved one out side then i got paraniod because i saw cars just parked around where i planted em and the guys in the cars would just sit and watch me while i was tending to my plant(i put them where no one would go)and for my other im bouts to move so i up rooted her so im down to one i plan on starting over when im done movin-lookin good keep up the good work

Good news and bad news.

The bad news is the plant I had been tracking got burnt by the lights I figured out why and took steps to prevent it but I have no idea how badly it will impact the plant. The plant seems like it hardly noticed however maybe it is growing slower now...

The good news is WOW look at her monster sister! Littler kids aren't looking so bad, either. I just hope that big one is a female!

everyone always has that ONE plant that gets fucked up but it should heal up and be back on track soon

Sorry no new pics, for the record I added 2 hours of darkness to the veg room: last night was the first 2 hours of no light. I had them on 24 hours light but I don't think you are supposed to keep them that way forever. Burnt plant is looking 200% better.

I need to clone and figure out sex... I need to get a single fem/mom into a 5 gallon bucket so I can set up the pots for hempy buckets.

How old do the plants have to be before you can clone them?

Whats the best way to set up clones for hempy buckets? I guess I am going to try to start with rockwool cubes with a cloning tray then go into 8" hempy buckets. I have 15 watt cloning grow tubes and everything so I might as well take advantage of what I already have.

Digital timers are awesome. Well worth it for a grounded digital programmable timer.

New pics! The plant that got burned is in the upper left, seems to be doing ok... one of the plants is smaller than the others and is pictured by itself (he has 2 lights all his own at the moment) but I think it popped a few days later too.

Bad news... the lowest branches (smallest inside) tips are browning a bit or the leaves are yellowing a bit at the tips, looks almost exactly like when I was overwatering before except I wouldn't think it would be possible as they went a week and looked green and happy for it.

I still haven't ph'd the soil and I need to get a kit and do it, need another ONA block anyway.

I included pics of my badly grown flowering plants, looks like they might have something in them after all - they are at week 6 right now. The stick on the left lost the last of it's leaves today, I guess this would normally be part of flowering but since it had no others (cause I way over-watered and under-lighted them) it is now popsickle. Definitely heavy and dense buds, who knows? I have seem plants grown that way (but with clipped leaves) on purpose so maybe it wont be so bad. Either way you can see the battery for size... the back of the plants are on the tape... definately some smoke there.

T44 needs to be SEXED and I don't know when to do it or what method to use! I want to clone and flower the clones but I don't know how big the top needs to get before I can. That is going to be a BIG project setting that up.

So these were seedlings 30 days (4+ weeks) ago... when can I clone them?

What you are seeing is two shots of each of the 4 kids, from the side and top in 8" buckets.

Odd how their leaves curl and twist, I haven't seen anything like that before (not that I have a ton of experience or anything though.) Maybe it's just how the strain is.

Still trying to find a good source of information regarding cloning... guess I just need to do my legwork but I would love it if anyone can suggest a guide.

Oh yeah for the record, now there are 6 23w blue CFL's in the veg side and 6 23w red CFL's in the flower side. 4 bulbs under the large hoods and 2 standalone hooded clamp fixtures in each room.

So how are we lookin' boys and girls?

They are seriously exploding... even just the last 2 days... my god... I can't have ultra massive plants... I am so afraid to butcher them and I don't know how to get a growing medium set up yet for cloning...

I am thinking I'm ganna get spooked and just 12 on/12 off them and have to start over from seeds in 6 weeks. I don't want that... I need a mom plant to get this going right. Trying to find a cloning to hempy method but that thread is just so huge. To make matters worse there will be a probably 100 hour period in about a week where I can't tend to anything, meaning anything requiring daily care is out for at least another 10 days and these twisty leaf monsters are going to be fuck massive by then...

Looking Good man

just go ahead and clone them... there is nothing to fear, if they are getting to big just take the tops of each of them as clones.... as far as cloning is concearned everbody has an opininon about the "right"way to do it, I am no expert, but I have cloned my plants at all stages without a problem, and with no special potions or mixtures, just snip it put it in a rocwool cube keep it moist 3-7 days later into a hempy bucket 7-9 weeks later smoke it up......

there looking nice man. real nice. how tall? but what the hell is a hempy bucket???

bigd921 said:

just go ahead and clone them... there is nothing to fear, if they are getting to big just take the tops of each of them as clones.... as far as cloning is concearned everbody has an opininon about the "right"way to do it, I am no expert, but I have cloned my plants at all stages without a problem, and with no special potions or mixtures, just snip it put it in a rocwool cube keep it moist 3-7 days later into a hempy bucket 7-9 weeks later smoke it up......

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Don't have rockwool cubes (can't find them locally) and I still don't know what exactly to feed the plants. I need to go directly to perlite.

Super frustrating. Nobody seems to be able to give me a concise answer on how to mix the nutes for the clones... nobody's fault but I would think someone could just say "pour X of bloom and X of micro into 1 gallon of water which makes __% strength mixture, use this for X period of time and switch to Z mixture." People don't seem to be very straightforward when they talk about that stuff. It's a controlled process and not really open to much interpretation.

Sigh. Guess I'll keep reading and wondering wtf I'm doin hydro for when I have shitloads of MG.

Jtoth3ustin said:

there looking nice man. real nice. how tall? but what the hell is a hempy bucket???

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They are around 8 inches tall and wide. T44 is a really low growing and bushy strain. You can read about hempy buckets here, but the thread is about a thousand pages or something and the info there is so disorganized:

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/59705-hempy-collective.html

It's basically a bucket of perlite with a drain hole in the side so you don't overwater, you then pour hydro nutes onto it. Everyone seems to use the lucas method but I can't seem to get any info on exactly how to implement it for clones.

ok here's a little help with your setup , if you can try to not have your supplies in your flowering area because over time it will become a pain when you need the stuff and you can't get to them because of the must have 100% darkness factor and for nutes use B-1 Thrive for seedings its a 1-2-1 and its all organinc and using jiffy / peat pucks for seedlings will help with the no nutes for seedlings when using potting soil

BCMango said:

ok here's a little help with your setup , if you can try to not have your supplies in your flowering area because over time it will become a pain when you need the stuff and you can't get to them because of the must have 100% darkness factor and for nutes use B-1 Thrive for seedings its a 1-2-1 and its all organinc and using jiffy / peat pucks for seedlings will help with the no nutes for seedlings when using potting soil

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Thanks for the tips, I guess for the initial buckets I'm ganna mix 4:1 perlite vermiculite, its MG perlite so fuck it, I'll just butcher some branches, dip them in cloning powder, stick em in the perlite, water them with distilled and put them under the veg lights.

Sigh. Knowledge roadblocks are super frustrating. I guess I'll have to fuck it up first.

Edit: as far as the darkness factor goes, I didn't see any massive difference if the plants that I had flowering got 30 seconds of exposure to minimal light. It's pretty damn close to light-tight in that room but there is near ten thousand lumens inches away, it's very very dark and I do what I can to minimize exposure: the fan that I have on the front of it does let some light in and they still flowered like normal but... yeah. You are right and I just moved damn near everything out of there and organized it, looks much nicer now! Unfortunately I don't have the option of both ventilation and complete and total darkness so I have to compromise some. I do the best I can to have the lights off when I'm not here and the other room is also dark so at least they generally got 6-8 hours uninterrupted dark and another 4-6 95% dark.

Newborns... thankfully these don't cry nearly as much.

Labeled each plant and each cup so I know the source plants (duh).

I mixed about 4:1 perlite/vermic. in 18 ounce solo cups and put a hole about an inch or so up in them that is about 1/4 inch.

I watered slowly until they dripped or ran. I took clones from the bottom most branches. I got out a brand spanking new razor blade, I cut right at the trunk and removed everything but the top leaves as I had read, cutting downwards.

Dunked stem in water then Green Light rooting hormone. Put them in the medium and made them stable in it.

They are now about 6-8" away from 2 23 watt blue CFL's. The room they are in is on a 6 hours of darkness timer. The humidity in the other half is about 62% which is probably the whole building.

I have a mister I will water them with from now on to make sure it's even (as long as I am using distilled). No idea how often they will need it but I don't think it will hurt them at least in the first few days to be kept wet?

The remaining problem is that eventually they are going to need nutrients and I still don't know what mix to give them, unless I don't have to do that until full strength.

How cute they are though! Wish me luck.

And thanks to everyone here and elsewhere on RIU for all the advice! Always feel free to post in my journal.

Edit: I turned those two lamps above the clones off, I figure the room is bright enough with them being brand new and all, I'll switch them back on during the dark cycle so they will start getting full sun tomorrow.

Edit: the top two sets of nodes are very close together on all of the clones and that is what you see, each still has the last set of new nodes and the ones that are still not fully developed.