My SCROG "Grow Cart" on wheels

pinksensa said:

but then the water won't hold in the soil any more? no its not holding water...only a 1/4th of what i give it

It just runs through? it just runs right through

Have you tried a water-agent? no??
Like a little bit of soft soap?eww im scared of soap

What kind of soil do you use? bug soil ha ha no Supersoil which has been good to me other than the bugs..on top of sand then rocks...i think its all compacted together now..

Any lava rocks in the bottom? no

Any perlite or vermiculite mixed in?no

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I've always mixed soil with perlite/vermiculite for airation. The lava rocks (VERY good shit.. lava is the most fertile shit on the planet, look at Hawaii!!!) in the bottom let air come up from underneath to help the roots breathe also.

Not once, in any of my soil grows, did I ever put more water than the container could hold. Having water 'flush' out of the bottom was always a BIG no-no, for me. That meant I just over-watered them.

You can buy watering agents at a pet store or horticultural store. It simply helps move the water in and through the soil. Soft soap works the same way.. just use a VERY little bit per gallon.. no more than a squirt. No scents or anything.. just the basic run-of-the-mill soap.

Soap is also good to kill bugs! (foliar spray)

Never used sand before.. just soil with perlite/vermiculite and rocks in the bottom (lava rocks).

Read up on lava and Hawaii's vegetation.. you'll see what I mean about fertile.

See if you can find Roots Organics locally. VERY good soil.. they also have dank ass organic feed additives.. check my journal in my thread. I'll be adding the Roots Organics fert. additives later in the op.

pinksensa said:

HUGE PROBLEM WITH ELIZABETH

I really dont think I got off track on my watering...since she has been in the pot she is in I have given her a half gallon of water or mix every other day and she loves it and always drains back about 1/4 of what I give her.....so on Tuesday night I fed/watered and yesterday Wed when I pulled the drain tray it was 2x as full of water as normal more than even when i flush on her flush day...I let it slide and didnt give her a glass of water like she has been getting since shes gotten so big...this morning she looks droopy in places and not her usual self....her soil was dry a finger in an inch or so the soil was dry.....soooo I watered her the same 1/2 gallon only water.....she used to suck water immediately down this time it sat and took awhile to drain and then when i pulled the drain tray and measured it she had drained back 3/4 of the half gallon (the water is almost as clear as when i poured it in) just like when I watered on Tuesday...she only drank a 1/4 of the water....I squeezed the sides of my pot....

Urghh its like my soil is locked up and the water is just running right through and out...is that possible? do I really have to untie all those branches from the screen and try and get that pot out to replant it or something...


I think im just going to detach the screen from the cart and uproot her clean her roots and put her in new soil then reattach the screen....

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sand has a tendance to compact and become hard as a rock, it might be a good idea to remove the sand altogether and add some perlite. hope it helps. good luck!

Im so sorry to hear about Liz. The soap works by changing the surface tension of the water making it "wetter" ti will help dry soil soak up the water instead of having tons of run off. I dont think that will help you though. It sounds like its over watered. Has any other conditions changed that may cause less water uptake- Temps lower, humidity higher ect?

Okay I definetly dont think its overwatering, I think that most of the droops I saw were areas that werent getting enough light ....because pink your suppose to keep under your canopy much more free of things that will wilt and die underneath with no light...

I for sure think that the sand has turned into a compacted matter in the bottom of my pot...tomorrow I will find a suitable pot then I am going to cut away the bottom of Elizabeths pot knock away the sand and back fill with perlite and a lil ocean forest.

I did a hellava trim job under the canopy and took 6 more clones...so now I only have 2 branches that arent through the screen....one is kinda wild but im kinda keepin it cuz its so strong and if I need any more clones before Marybeth starts producing I can take it from the wild one if that branch isnt to the screen by then...2 for real weeks and im going to flower this bitch..

Marybeth is doing awesome just exploding.
Katybeth and Jamiebeth are doing really awesome to they are one with their new soil and not swaying anymore
...the runt of the bunch was getting a lil death on top of it so I let her go....plus I needed the room for the new clones...

I guess in the midst of the drama with Elizabeth all I could think was I need a more clones I need more clones so now no matter what happens the legion of her will go on!!!

Im sure by the looks of Elizabeth your like Pink you ass she looks great but its the too much runoff that tripping me out...cuz you know if its running off she isnt drinking it...sooo

1. Under canopy
2. side of Marybeth
3. top of canopy
4. Katybeth & Jamiebeth and new clones
5. top of Marybeth

pinksensa said:

Okay I definetly dont think its overwatering, I think that most of the droops I saw were areas that werent getting enough light ....because pink your suppose to keep under your canopy much more free of things that will wilt and die underneath with no light...

I for sure think that the sand has turned into a compacted matter in the bottom of my pot...tomorrow I will find a suitable pot then I am going to cut away the bottom of Elizabeths pot knock away the sand and back fill with perlite and a lil ocean forest.

I did a hellava trim job under the canopy and took 6 more clones...so now I only have 2 branches that arent through the screen....one is kinda wild but im kinda keepin it cuz its so strong and if I need any more clones before Marybeth starts producing I can take it from the wild one if that branch isnt to the screen by then...2 for real weeks and im going to flower this bitch..

Marybeth is doing awesome just exploding.
Katybeth and Jamiebeth are doing really awesome to they are one with their new soil and not swaying anymore
...the runt of the bunch was getting a lil death on top of it so I let her go....plus I needed the room for the new clones...

I guess in the midst of the drama with Elizabeth all I could think was I need a more clones I need more clones so now no matter what happens the legion of her will go on!!!

Im sure by the looks of Elizabeth your like Pink you ass she looks great but its the too much runoff that tripping me out...cuz you know if its running off she isnt drinking it...sooo

1. Under canopy
2. side of Marybeth
3. top of canopy
4. Katybeth & Jamiebeth and new clones
5. top of Marybeth

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How have I missed the name Jamiebeth? Omg...hahahah I <3 you!!

I dont know I kept waitn for you to notice I knew you hadnt cuz you hadnt said anything lol my dedication to you!!

pinksensa said:

I dont know I kept waitn for you to notice I knew you hadnt cuz you hadnt said anything lol my dedication to you!!

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I seriously read every single one of your posts!! I cannot see how the eff I missed that. Maybe all the reading Ive been doing for school? Is it the weed? I dont know but I am so so so sorry I didnt notice earlier! I really feel bad.

jamiemichelle said:

I seriously read every single one of your posts!! I cannot see how the eff I missed that. Maybe all the reading Ive been doing for school? Is it the weed? I dont know but I am so so so sorry I didnt notice earlier! I really feel bad.

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dont ever freakin feel bad!!! at all I think I only named those two like in my last update 3 days ago and thats the one on pg 55 that you were REALLY high on that day and like read it twice so dont even sweat it shes happy, Im happy it all good

pinksensa said:

dont ever freakin feel bad!!! at all I think I only named those two like in my last update 3 days ago and thats the one on pg 55 that you were REALLY high on that day and like read it twice so dont even sweat it shes happy, Im happy it all good

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Thank you for being forgiving. And yes, this weed is making me high off my ass. Im somewhat normal still only because I just finished doing school work...so Im just on my 2nd hit. Ill be fucked up soon.

lmao i feel yah this afghani/bigbud has me so high Ive smoked less...the man called and I was like im good damn ill catch you in a few day...plus I know that guy was trying to give me the bottom of the sack before he goes n gets new...i love this stuff though and id almost take the bottom of the bag...i really want to ask him to ask the man if i could get a cutting of this...

Hey Pinksensa.!!!

I’m a newbie here and I just stumbled across your thread. I haven’t read the entire thread (because I’m too lazy to read that much) but I wanted to give you and your construction buddy props for coming up with an ingenious solution to your dilemma of growing a SOG.

I looked at the construction and I’d like to offer possible suggestions for future improvements. Please keep in mind… these are ONLY suggestions meant in the spirit of furthering your thread… NOT meant as “know it all” advice… because the one thing I know for sure is that I DON’T know it all.

OK… so looking at your pics (first post) it appears you are using:

2x4 – for the 4 support Posts (qty. 4) (untreated lumber)
1X4 – for the top rails (qty. 4) (untreated lumber)
1X1??? – for the bottom support/drainage (unsure about wood??? looks like left over somtehing????…).
1X2 – for wheel supports (untreated lumber)
Wood screws …. hard to determine type/size by pic but I’m guessing they are at min. 2” galv. wood screws.

OK…so based on what I see…. you are sturdy on top… and weak in support on the bottom. IME (in my experience) this will work nicely the first use…for a while… but will be “wobbly” soon. In other words….. I think your construction is a bit “top heavy”. To correct this I’d put the same 1x4 top rails on the bottom of the posts (above mystery wood bottom).

The next thing that gave me (???) was the 1x4x4 wheel blocks only in the 4 corners of the mystery wood bottom. While the bottom rails I just suggested will give extra support… I’d DEFINITLEY add either wheels or extra support on the long ends of the rig.

Lastly… for the outer construct of your rig I’d suggest LAG BOLTS over wood screws. My dad (May he Rest In Peace) taught me that wood/deck screws are great for fences and decks….but anything I want to be STURDY while moving should use lag bolts in the construction. Wood screws can be used for the weak joins (rail to rail) but the LAGS should be used for the structural joins.

Just my suggestions…..If anyone already posted these suggestions then I apologize for the repeat…… I was too lazy to read.

Thanks for the pics/ideas Pinksensa…. I’ll definitely use parts of them in my construction efforts

Florida girl....whoa...whoaa ....Im the femme in this relationship over here complete with daily makeup and eyelashes fluttering, fixed long hair, and lacey panties....I giggle when I use the drill.....and beg her to hold the nail of anything I have to hammer...cutie pie I went deslexic (sp?) reading those words...i can tell you thats its sturdy as hell and with the cross bar from my dogs puppy crate she the one who weilds the wood, screws and galvanized anything is about 125lbs and can sit on the cart...the wheels could be rated for more weight but the whole plants really doesnt weigh that much and I reallly dont roll it far the roll was just so i could roll it out of the closet and turn 360 to trim and tie......HATS OFF to you for your advice, your knowledge, I am in constant awe of my ex/roomate she can make anything I design or dream up but thats what I do is point and say no or yes...lol im a lil princess or as we say around here "the baby" if you would ever like to conspire with her on some wood working projects or welding she also is a mean ass artistic welder let me know you girls would be fast friends....I wanted to assemble the whole thing with biscuits it was goin be my first time to use the biscuit cutter or whatev that thingy is that makes the hole for the biscuit lol lol again thank and if I can ever help you with my greenery experience please feel free to holla atcha girl

EDIT: new pics and update on PAGE 61

pinksensa said:

lmao i feel yah this afghani/bigbud has me so high Ive smoked less...the man called and I was like im good damn ill catch you in a few day...plus I know that guy was trying to give me the bottom of the sack before he goes n gets new...i love this stuff though and id almost take the bottom of the bag...i really want to ask him to ask the man if i could get a cutting of this...

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I wish I could get cuttings?! That would be awesome if theyd let you but they probably dont wanna lose business.
This stuff is masta kush?? Im not sure if I like how lazy/unmotivated it makes me. I never can get the same thing twice from my dude. He comes with something new every week and I always feel I get the finest bud. Always a dif kinda feeling.

jamiemichelle said:

I wish I could get cuttings?! That would be awesome if theyd let you but they probably dont wanna lose business.
This stuff is masta kush?? Im not sure if I like how lazy/unmotivated it makes me. I never can get the same thing twice from my dude. He comes with something new every week and I always feel I get the finest bud. Always a dif kinda feeling.

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it seems like my guy is new about every two weeks and i just realized like 3-4 days ago that based on what i get from him and what i know he gets im his biggest customer which doesnt mean shit but that i smoke the most of it before there is new lol but this new guy i have has been doin me so right w/the smoke...my ol girl bless her heart i just had to tell her i couldnt roll w/that stuff she was bringin nemore but she could keep runnin the schwag to my roomie lol

EDIT oh and I dont know if I can get cuttings from that guy but i do have one that would toss me down cuz im so small time id only want like one shit i tried to pay for 10 from somebody of a mixed selection but i wanted to take the over time they said NO SOUP for you pay 10 take 10 we too busy to deal w/your 10 NO SOUP for you

ill just comment on the pics...you girls type to much for me.

the girls are looking good and the new clones. i cant wait to see all this under the new light. keep doing what your doing and enjoy it. nice job!!

BIGMIKE13 said:

ill just comment on the pics...you girls type to much for me.

the girls are looking good and the new clones. i cant wait to see all this under the new light. keep doing what your doing and enjoy it. nice job!!

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i wish you would comment on the update at least on what I plan to do about the cutting away of the pot and adding a new pot...and....you know she said i couldnt cut a hole in the ceiling so i really think if im going to have to vent that much heat im going to have to pay more and get less light, I may still be able to convince her well and during the light hours the closet could be open and venting back into the actual room..and the closet shut when the light is out w/ fans still going but youll say no cuz its just pushing it around but not moving out

BIGMIKE13 said:

ill just comment on the pics...you girls type to much for me.....

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Lmao...lame.

jamiemichelle said:

Lmao...lame.

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haahaaa

wow..........awesome thread....im getting ready to do a scrog grow.....great inspiration...

nickfury510 said:

wow..........awesome thread....im getting ready to do a scrog grow.....great inspiration...

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did you get scrog seeds??