My SCROG "Grow Cart" on wheels

pinksensa said:

I wanted to assemble the whole thing with biscuits it was goin be my first time to use the biscuit cutter or whatev that thingy is

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My post was only meant as suggestions (as I said) but GURRRRRRRRRRRRLLLLL you had me ROLLING with the "biscuit cutter" comment!!!! It's called a biscuit JOINER.... and it's one of my fav. tools!!! It's also the second or third strongest join (dove tail is first). But I digress....

No need to listen to my rambling nonsense.....
If it works well then why mess with it....

lol @ bigmike at this point id have to agree

Florida Girl said:

My post was only meant as suggestions (as I said) but GURRRRRRRRRRRRLLLLL you had me ROLLING with the "biscuit cutter" comment!!!! It's called a biscuit JOINER.... and it's one of my fav. tools!!! It's also the second or third strongest join (dove tail is first). But I digress....

No need to listen to my rambling nonsense.....
If it works well then why mess with it....

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dont get me wrong i loved your suggestion I just didnt understand a word of it!!

cbraaszsy said:

lol @ bigmike at this point id have to agree

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wow i cant believe you noticed spammer..

pinksensa said:

i wish you would comment on the update at least on what I plan to do about the cutting away of the pot and adding a new pot...and....you know she said i couldnt cut a hole in the ceiling so i really think if im going to have to vent that much heat im going to have to pay more and get less light, I may still be able to convince her well and during the light hours the closet could be open and venting back into the actual room..and the closet shut when the light is out w/ fans still going but youll say no cuz its just pushing it around but not moving out

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ok..take what you want from this..

for the price you are crazy not to go with the 400w digital mh/hps. you will figure a way to vent the room im sure. environment is the key to a good grow..you know this. in flower you are going to have to do something about the smell and venting into the attic is a good way to mask this (hint,hint to roomie) one 4" hole is very easy to fix..put the cut piece back when finished..hole fixed. so that is that on the ventilation.

as far as the cutting away pot, why?? cant you just remove it like you said? the new pot idea and fresh soil sounds great and your plant will love the FF. here is what i do when potting..stones and lava rocks are great for keeping the soil and roots getting air from the bottom. i have found what works for me is to use styrofoam packing material (the S shaped). make sure it is not the green or pink coated..i think these are made from some sort of rice filler and will break down when wet. the white styrofoam will not breakdown. this may sound silly, but take a piece and chew on it..if it melts in your mouth no good. i use about a two inch layer in the bottom of each pot. i never have a problem with root rot or over watering. after harvest i empty the pots and recycle the (S) for the next pot. hope this all makes sense and you can use some of this to benefit from in the future.

i used to make my perlite from this also in a food processor..ill have to find the link ..brb...here is the link..Perlite...using Styrofoam Packing Material forgot to add that there is a cut and paste in the thread about using the styrofoam in the pots.

BIGMIKE13 said:

ok..take what you want from this..

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i used to make my perlite from this also in a food processor..ill have to find the link ..brb...here is the link..Perlite...using Styrofoam Packing Material forgot to add that there is a cut and paste in the thread about using the styrofoam in the pots.

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I freakin love it!!! Thanks babycakes for giving me such an informative answer!!! Now im huntin packing material,lol I just love the way you do things. Thanks for coming out of the shell, for a min. Ima get the 400 then Ill just have to use the princess card an start whining about why I need my hole and Im sure I can get it...

GOOD NEWS: ALL 6 OF THE NEW CLONES MADE IT THROUGH THE NIGHT!!! I am a cloning fool now!!! ha ha for me if they make it through nite one Im home free....sometime when their domes arent on Ill take pics of what they look like, they are all about the same exact high no lil shortys this time!! Happy clones make me happy!!! I have always thought that if I had access to some good strains I would love to be clone farmer...hint hint anyone lol theres just something about making babies that i love now

yea, she might just be root bound, it has been in that container a while.

the problem with "soil" is after it dries completely it becomes kinda hard and clay like which isnt too good for the roots. then when U water it, it can become like a mud all together. it gets really messy during flushing..ooo..good luck with that!

try going soil-less next time. just peat moss and perlite. its not quite Hydro, not exactly soil but its much easier to work with.

some good brands are sunshine mix, miracle gro REGULAR potting mix, miracle gro Organic choice.

or if U do go soil again get a good mix like foxfarms that has organic nutes, good aeration, and drainage properties..

Spittn4cash said:

yea, she might just be root bound, it has been in that container a while.

or if U do go soil again get a good mix like foxfarms that has organic nutes, good aeration, and drainage properties..

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oh yeah Im never using this soil or this soil setup again...it doesnt even have any perlite in it....from now on Im using BigMike soil which is a blend of FF Ocean Forest (marybeth is in ocean forest n perlite right now) Perlite and Scotts Topsoil....Im making dirt today!!!

Oh and Ill for sure take pics of what it looks like in the pot to before I reset her.....

EDIT NEW PICS ON MIDDLE OF PAGE 61 FOR ANYONE JUST STOPPIN BY AND NEW CLONE BABIES!!!

pinksensa said:

but then the water won't hold in the soil any more? no its not holding water...only a 1/4th of what i give it

It just runs through? it just runs right through

Have you tried a water-agent? no??
Like a little bit of soft soap?eww im scared of soap

What kind of soil do you use? bug soil ha ha no Supersoil which has been good to me other than the bugs..on top of sand then rocks...i think its all compacted together now..

Any lava rocks in the bottom? no

Any perlite or vermiculite mixed in?no

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you might/probably have dry soil pockets... this happens when you dont water the plants evenly (perlite helps alot).. its no big deal.. what i do is i take a long skinny stick ( like a bottle rocket) and poke holes down into the soil.. lots of them.. then i water.. let it soak in for a lil while, then water again, and so on...

you could have tried to flush it too quickly.. leaving part of the soil dry while all the water ran threw the channels it made... then whenever you water afterwards the water continues to run down the same path...

once you get all the soil nice and saturated, it will start to hold water again..


could be root bound...

Spittn4cash said:

yea, she might just be root bound, it has been in that container a while.

the problem with "soil" is after it dries completely it becomes kinda hard and clay like which isnt too good for the roots. then when U water it, it can become like a mud all together. it gets really messy during flushing..ooo..good luck with that!

try going soil-less next time. just peat moss and perlite. its not quite Hydro, not exactly soil but its much easier to work with.

some good brands are sunshine mix, miracle gro REGULAR potting mix, miracle gro Organic choice.

or if U do go soil again get a good mix like foxfarms that has organic nutes, good aeration, and drainage properties..

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sunshine promix fuxking rocks

This is a very interesting grow what are you using for the screen at the top?

bozley2g said:

This is a very interesting grow what are you using for the screen at the top?

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lol its these littl green fencing things kinda hard to explain...but I didnt want to buy a huge roll of chicken wire (but today I found a lowes some really small roll so next time I will go get those..) so they had these little wire fencing things that you could put around a small flower bed so i used dykes and pliers to manipulate them into the screen that it is and then we added some peices where there wasnt holes...

That's cool, I was always was under the impression that you had to remove the screen to harvest, how do you plan to harvest them from the screen without hurting your precious buds?? Are you going to cut the screen or just cut the bottom of the stems and pull the buds through your screen?

bozley2g said:

That's cool, I was always was under the impression that you had to remove the screen to harvest, how do you plan to harvest them from the screen without hurting your precious buds?? Are you going to cut the screen or just cut the bottom of the stems and pull the buds through your screen?

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well a lot of people weave the branches through the screen and back up and I dont know how they harvest Ill have to ask billybob but I tie along the screen so when I go to cut I will untie or cut my ties and then cut the branch where it entered the screen and hang the slut up...you pose a good point that i hadnt reflected much on with the weave and pull ill have to figure that one out if im ever a weaver...

so I thought i was going to get away with just putting elizabeth back in her pot after taking away the sand etc so Im sitting in there w/ a chopstick poking holes in the dirt down to the sand and then im about done and i just kinda start scratching the surface of the soil and theres cajillions of roots just below the top of the soil......what a fucking moron pink...can you all believe what a champion this damn plant is to be bound all up in her own roots and still growin green as the day is long???

ive been to lowes, home depot and finally to walmart to find clean perlite...i couldnt find any freaking scotts top soil BIGMIKE only scotts premium potting soil so I didnt get any of that and now I HAVE TO GO[EDIT SHE SAYS WE HVE A BUCKET SO NOW IMA DRINK A BEER] freaking back and get a five gallon bucket or something to put my fatass slut of a plant Elizabeth into I want to poke the fucking magic weed elf in the eye for telling me my pot would be fine for the entire grow why else would I have attached a screen full of fuckng branches to have to replant the damn thing urgghhhh that fucking elf is going to get it.... thats a 12 inch pot they have a 16 but my hole is cut for a 12 n I think if I get a five gallon bucket I can put my holes where i want them...

oh and bm if this wasnt too much reading for let me know if it is SCOTTS PREMIUM POTTING SOIL OR SCOTTS TOP SOIL cuz theres no freaking topsoil and thats what i had written down..i figure i can blow smoke and chill then got get my damn bucket who fuckin lets they kickass tree grow roots to the top the soil?????

heh i know a little bit about rootboundness the roots will grow wherever the water is if you water the top the roots will grow around the top (i'm sure you know this) but when you water you need to make sure the water comes out the bottom.

^^^^^^^^^ if this has already been talked about, my apologies maybe it'll help out some nube who happens to read it

pics are a plant that i repotted. apparently i put the dirt in without looking in the pot first then added my plant.. then upon replant i found this..

cbraaszsy said:

heh i know a little bit about rootboundness the roots will grow wherever the water is if you water the top the roots will grow around the top (i'm sure you know this) but when you water you need to make sure the water comes out the bottom.

^^^^^^^^^ if this has already been talked about, my apologies maybe it'll help out some nube who happens to read it

pics are a plant that i repotted. apparently i put the dirt in without looking in the pot first then added my plant.. then upon replant i found this..

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lmao!!! that just made my freakin day!! thats fucking hilarious I love that ha ha Ima make that my avatar lmao

pinksensa said:

well a lot of people weave the branches through the screen and back up and I dont know how they harvest Ill have to ask billybob but I tie along the screen so when I go to cut I will untie or cut my ties and then cut the branch where it entered the screen and hang the slut up...you pose a good point that i hadnt reflected much on with the weave and pull ill have to figure that one out if im ever a weaver...

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I spoke to BB about this and what here recommended was to take them out one big branch at a time. Im gonna cut the screen out around the sites I wanna harvest and maybe let some of the lower growth go for a bit. I have seen some pics of the whole screen hangin' with the whole plant in it. I guess there are a few ways..

FourTwenty47 said:

I spoke to BB about this and what here recommended was to take them out one big branch at a time. Im gonna cut the screen out around the sites I wanna harvest and maybe let some of the lower growth go for a bit. I have seen some pics of the whole screen hangin' with the whole plant in it. I guess there are a few ways..

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that would be so phat to see a whole screen hangin up lmao