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hope full

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All right makin sure you dont have heat problems. I know its easy to get confused when you have 20 people giving you advice on what to do, im not saying that there wrong by any means, but you need to pick one solution and go with it, by trying a bunch of diff things to fix your problem it will only make it worse. good luck, any more questions fire away.
 
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Mgrowing

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Ok so watering them was def the right move right? I will put them in the 5 gallon pots as there final resting place. The one thing I am confused about is using 1 light. How do I know how high to put the light so that the all get even light? Should I use a string and run it along the same angle of the hood to edge of each plant so I know that they are under the canopy of the hood? Or how do I choose the height? Also are they old enough now to use the Hesi ferts I got and follow their schedule?
 
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Nocturn3

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It seems like they have perked up a bit from yesterday. My advice would be to do nothing for a couple of days now. The pots don't look too big to me, although they will need transplanting in a week or so.

You can get away with raising your lights up to about 3 feet, and still be okay, but unless you have temp problems or bleaching, I would leave them where they are, or just raise them a little bit.

Don't fuss them too much. Just stick to a proper watering schedule and you should be fine. Once you pot up, you won't need nutes for a few weeks anyway, and they don't look particularly hungry to me at the moment.
 
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Mgrowing

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Ok so now I'm confused. I am in the process of drilling out the holes to put them into 5 gallon buckets. I was going to transplant them and remove one of the lights. Should I just leave them alone for a few days or transplant them now so I don't have to later? And remove one light or leave it with 2?
 
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Nocturn3

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If you can fit all the pots under one light, then by all means turn the other one off for now. 2k is probably a bit wasteful for plants that small, unless you need the second light for even spread. Either way, it doesn't matter too much unless it is affecting temps, so it's your call.

If I was in your position, I wouldn't transplant just yet. Those plants are still pretty small, and there is still plenty of root space available. Added to this is the fact that you watered them yesterday, so at the very least you should wait until they are due their next watering. If you drenched them yesterday, and then drench them again today to water them into the new pots, that would be considered overwatering.

I would leave them at least a week, but at the very least, leave them until the next time they feel light.
 
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Mgrowing

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Ok that makes sense. The reason I have 2 lights is to cover all the plants. If I raise one light to about 3 feet or 4 feet above the plants then it might cover all the plants. I was actually thinking about getting one of those king cobra hoods or another one the same size as the cobra hood to be able to cover all the plants with 1 light. Would it be better if I keep the 2 lights or raise 1 up high enough. Or....... One of them is dimmable. I could dim it to 50% and I have another ballast that is 400 and a 400 bulb. So then it would be one 500 watt and 1 400
 
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Nocturn3

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I'd be tempted to just leave them both on. The plants will fill out soon enough, and they will thank you for the extra light by yielding heavily. As long as heat isn't an issue, it's all good. :bigjoint:
 
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Mgrowing

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Heat is not an issue. It's winter around here so the little fresh air I bring in keeps it between 74-82 tops. And at night I put a heater in there and keep it between 67-73. Also how hot is too hot? What temp should I think that heat is becoming a problem?
 
GrnMn

GrnMn

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Mgrowing said:
Here is an update. To the comment about throwing $$$$ at it. I saved up for a while to be able to buy the best equipment I could. I thought that with sub par equipment I would get sub par plants. I needed 2 lights to be able to cover each plant evenly. I dont understand the comment about it being an important part of the solution I seek. So here are pictures from this morning. Last night I watered them thoroughly on the recomendation I got here. They were different this morning and I also raised the lights. I will put a pic from last night then a pic of same plant from this morning to compare. Any help letting me know if I am on thr right path or if there is something else I should do.View attachment 2048625View attachment 2048650View attachment 2048651View attachment 2048653View attachment 2048654View attachment 2048655View attachment 2048662View attachment 2048663View attachment 2048664 View attachment 2048665
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Pot size is good, and they definitely perked up. Remember to SATURATE when you water, then wait until the pot gets semi-light weight, then re-saturate.
 
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Mgrowing

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I actually just checked them again and stuck my finger in as far as I could and it didn't seem that wet. Last night I watered them until water was coming out the bottom. And now just 24 hours later it seems like its dry again. It was only kind of moist when I stuck my finger in. I think maybe it's drying too fast because the pots are small or I drilled too many holes in the pots.
 
grodrowithme

grodrowithme

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bostoner said:
His soil does not seem dry. The edges aren't even shrunk on the top. I think its over watered. I water once a week on average during veg. They look small too most likely from the over water. They also look light green as over water would explain this too because there is not enough oxygen to bring up nutrients. Not too bad though. Try waiting a week before watering. Also those thick plump margins between the veins on your newer growth is a good sign of over watering. I'm almost 100% sure its over watered and not under. You should also try and water in the morning. The plant wont take up any water in the dark so its pointless.
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do you have proof to support that when plants are over watered they lose there color?????
 
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Dobby

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grodrowithme said:
do you have proof to support that when plants are over watered they lose there color?????
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I would think if the plants are chronically overwatered the available nitrogen could be washed out and if that happened I would think it surely would cause some color loss. How much over watering that would take I don't know.

Just a thought.
 
GrnMn

GrnMn

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Guys, look at the pix; he's using a rough mix, and not saturating. They're underwatered, yellowing from suffering. Proof in the pudding, he watered a little and they perked up.

To properly saturate soil, fill a bucket to just under the soil line, and submerge the pot until completely saturated (waterlogged, pot will be heavy). Then, let it grow until the pot feels light, and repeat the process.
 
grodrowithme

grodrowithme

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GrnMn said:
Guys, look at the pix; he's using a rough mix, and not saturating. They're underwatered, yellowing from suffering. Proof in the pudding, he watered a little and they perked up.

To properly saturate soil, fill a bucket to just under the soil line, and submerge the pot until completely saturated (waterlogged, pot will be heavy). Then, let it grow until the pot feels light, and repeat the process.
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EXACTLY enough said
 
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Mgrowing

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I want to thank everyone for taking the time to help me. I am a first time grower and every one is helping me. I will still need more but thank you.
 
merch man

merch man

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hi pal jst gettin my 2cents worth but wouldnt panic think grnmn,s advice is spot on and as a personal preference id ov had them on a 1/4 strength fert from the first set-of true leaves but dnt thing thats the issue like its probably jst wilt from lack ov water and as bostoner said its time to transplant b4 shit ends up root bound but urs still luk snd tho pal no need to stress out
 
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Mgrowing

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I just bought that book that was recommended. I bought it for kindle on my iPhone so when it finishes downloading I will check it out. And yes they seemed to perk up but honestly one of them went back to drooping. I felt the plant to see if it felt water logged or crispy dry but it felt strong while it was drooping. Felt healthy.
 
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