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Smokymickpot · Sep 30, 2021

Have three plants that I have growing in natures living soil with a living soil mixture mixed with perlite and happy frog. 3 gal fabric pots. 600w 5 bar Growcraft from chilLED Tech. Been using tap water letting it air out over 2 days with air stone then ph’ing to 6.4–6.8, every once in a while giving Unsulfured molasses. Going on 8 weeks, problem started about 3-4 week’s ago. Could there still be chlorine and chloramine in the water? Do these filters work? Are they worth the money. First leaf photo of Fro yo from G 13 labs. The other two are Mendel’s Blueberry Cheesecake.

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PadawanWarrior · Sep 30, 2021

Stop pH'ing the water and stop giving it molasses and see how it responds.

What are you using to adjust the pH and how much molasses have you been feeding?

NanoGadget · Sep 30, 2021

PadawanWarrior said:
Stop pH'ing the water and stop giving it molasses and see how it responds.

What are you using to adjust the pH and how much molasses have you been feeding?

seconded.

GrassBurner · Sep 30, 2021

Have you been using the same water throughout the whole grow, or did you switch to it around the time the problem started?
Looking at this chart, maybe potassium?

NanoGadget · Sep 30, 2021

I promise you it isn't chlorine doing that to your girls. I know people whove been growing monsters with unfiltered tap for decades. it may not be ideal, but it won't create the type of damage pictured.

Smokymickpot · Sep 30, 2021

PadawanWarrior said:
Stop pH'ing the water and stop giving it molasses and see how it responds.

What are you using to adjust the pH and how much molasses have you been feeding?

Using this for ph’ing and using grandma molasses. Using one table spoon of the molasses every other week with 5 gallons of water.

Smokymickpot · Sep 30, 2021

GrassBurner said:
Have you been using the same water throughout the whole grow, or did you switch to it around the time the problem started?
Looking at this chart, maybe potassium?
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All but the first two weeks. The first two weeks I used distilled water because it was already ph to 7.5 while I was waiting on the solution. My tap water is in the high 8’s

PadawanWarrior · Sep 30, 2021

Smokymickpot said:
Using this for ph’ing and using grandma molasses. Using one table spoon of the molasses every other week with 5 gallons of water.View attachment 4999353

That's not a lot of molasses, so that's not it, it it does lower pH.

My guess is those bottles of pH up and down are fucking up the soil pH. Are you using both the up and down?

GrassBurner · Sep 30, 2021

I would think if it was the water, it would have showed up much sooner.

Smokymickpot · Sep 30, 2021

PadawanWarrior said:
That's not a lot of molasses, so that's not it, it it does lower pH.

My guess is those bottles of pH up and down are fucking up the soil pH. Are you using both the up and down?

No just the down my water from tap is in the high 8’s these are autos btw.

PadawanWarrior · Sep 30, 2021

Smokymickpot said:
No just the down my water from tap is in the high 8’s these are autos btw.

What is the ppm of your tap water?

Smokymickpot · Sep 30, 2021

PadawanWarrior said:
What is the ppm of your tap water?

Around 300-400 can’t remember

PadawanWarrior · Sep 30, 2021

Smokymickpot said:
Around 300-400 can’t remember

That's pretty high and might be part of your problem. A filter might be able to help but I don't think the ones you posted are gonna take out much of the total dissolved solids. Do you have any access to a water report to know what those tds are? And is it city or well water?

Smokymickpot · Sep 30, 2021

PadawanWarrior said:
That's pretty high and might be part of your problem. A filter might be able to help but I don't think the ones you posted are gonna take out much of the total dissolved solids. Do you have any access to a water report to know what those tds are? And is it city or well water?

I could get one and get back with you.

PadawanWarrior · Sep 30, 2021

Smokymickpot said:
I could get one and get back with you.

I'm no expert, but it might be something in the water that's building up and creating a lockout.

My well water is around 160 ppm TDS which is mostly Ca. But too much Ca locks out other stuff and so I've got to be careful how much Ca I add to my soil.

Smokymickpot · Oct 3, 2021

PadawanWarrior said:
I'm no expert, but it might be something in the water that's building up and creating a lockout.

My well water is around 160 ppm TDS which is mostly Ca. But too much Ca locks out other stuff and so I've got to be careful how much Ca I add to my soil.

Couldn’t get one for 2021 but from the 2020 report my water sucks.

PadawanWarrior · Oct 3, 2021

Smokymickpot said:
Couldn’t get one for 2021 but from the 2020 report my water sucks.

How bad was it? Can you post it?

Smokymickpot · Oct 3, 2021

PadawanWarrior said:
How bad was it? Can you post it?

PadawanWarrior · Oct 3, 2021

Smokymickpot said:
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I'm not the one to interpret that and give good advice. We need a scientist or something. I want to say @curious2garden is a scientist, but maybe it's one of the other ladies on here.

curious2garden · Oct 4, 2021

PadawanWarrior said:
I'm not the one to interpret that and give good advice. We need a scientist or something. I want to say @curious2garden is a scientist, but maybe it's one of the other ladies on here.

His tap water looks fine to me. However I'm an MD not a scientist. @cannabineer would be better to ask about the chemical composition of a water report as it effects plants. He's the Ph.D. Organic Chemist around here.

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