New here, just need some pointers please

Stltoed

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Looks good. I pulled 4 plants this week. All from my hydro rig. I wasnt paying attention to the rumors of my plants being a little nutrient intolerant and ended up with Nitrogen toxicity but it turned out better than i expected. I still have one in soil and it is going off. I almost pulled it thinking it was done, but pistils keeppopping up, so its still around
 

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If i may... you wont need support till late flower. You may just end up locking your plants into one spot if you keep your screen. In my opinion, i think you may want some freedom of movement before its time for support... Just my opinion. Youre doing very well.
 

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If i may... you wont need support till late flower. You may just end up locking your plants into one spot if you keep your screen. In my opinion, i think you may want some freedom of movement before its time for support... Just my opinion. Youre doing very well.
Thanks. I was thinking of leaving the screen so i can tuck some leave underneath
 

Stltoed

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Yeah, thats cool. If you do that, you might as well SCRoG it. In tight spots SCRoggin works killer. It will help so you dont wind up with a ton of larfy lime green lame buds in the middle. SCRogging helps get the light inside there to firm them up a bit. It also keeps everything at one level. Later, when you are budding the distance between the kolas and smaller, lower buds can be a bit of a problem. I personally think you would see benefits from a SCRoG. My biggest issue with SCRogging is my own. I kinda give up on it 3/4s the way to flower... if you SCRoG the benefits really show when you stick to it.
 

Stltoed

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I personally think you are gonna wanna spread out your plants a bit if you keep the net. I imagine they will probably end up at least 24"s in diameter. They will be all over each other in three weeks.
 

Gumdrawp

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I personally think you are gonna wanna spread out your plants a bit if you keep the net. I imagine they will probably end up at least 24"s in diameter. They will be all over each other in three weeks.
I would definitely spread them out a bit more. I actually have a trellis stretched across the floor of my tent that I use as a grid for spacing. I'm a machinist so I tent to be really anal about stupid shit like that, but then I can MacGyver a silencer for my fan out of a cardboard box duct tape a stapler and old egg cartons and not give two shits about how ghetto it looks. Funny how stuff like that works sometimes.

Your plants are looking much better sako, I agree the cuttings look very stressed but I don't think it's anything to worry about, just don't over water or overfeed them. I don't think a dose a cal mag would hurt though. Your girls in flower are actually praying a little bit in those pictures, clearly they are much happier, and I'm glad to see you're on the right track now. Just remember that keeping it simple as a new grower is almost always better, you don't need to worry about having a million additives or doing anything crazy because learning proper care is going to give you better quality higher yielding plants much faster than most of the snake oil companies try to push. 85% of it is your lights, environment, and care.
 

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I would definitely spread them out a bit more. I actually have a trellis stretched across the floor of my tent that I use as a grid for spacing. I'm a machinist so I tent to be really anal about stupid shit like that, but then I can MacGyver a silencer for my fan out of a cardboard box duct tape a stapler and old egg cartons and not give two shits about how ghetto it looks. Funny how stuff like that works sometimes.

Your plants are looking much better sako, I agree the cuttings look very stressed but I don't think it's anything to worry about, just don't over water or overfeed them. I don't think a dose a cal mag would hurt though. Your girls in flower are actually praying a little bit in those pictures, clearly they are much happier, and I'm glad to see you're on the right track now. Just remember that keeping it simple as a new grower is almost always better, you don't need to worry about having a million additives or doing anything crazy because learning proper care is going to give you better quality higher yielding plants much faster than most of the snake oil companies try to push. 85% of it is your lights, environment, and care.
A machinist!? Well, this is good to hear. A tradesman... a dieing breed indeed. Im a third generation Plastic Injection Mold Maker. I dont cut steel so much anymore, unless im building a prototype, but its good to hear there are people on hear that can turn a handle! I knew there was a reason i liked you!
 
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A machinist!? Well, this is good to hear. A tradesman... a dieing breed indeed. Im a third generation Plastic Injection Mold Maker. I dont cut steel so much anymore, unless im building a prototype, but its good to hear there are people on hear that can turn a handle! I knew there was a reason i liked you!
Well right now I'm making mechanical clutches for aircraft and helicopters, mostly all cnc work. Before starting here I worked for 3 years as a moldmakers apprentice, mostly all of roush, eei global, TG North America and a few FoMoCo molds. Was great work and I really liked it the guys that I learned from were really good at what they did and I learned to do and run a lot of machinery. Also definitely broke me of any fears of moving heavy things, we had to flip 17 ton bus fender core halves on a single chain crane with wood blocks. There was a corner of the shop with some pretty nasty dings in the concrete. We were a smaller shop so the pay just wasn't good enough to compete with a UAW shop and with a kid on the way the money made more sense.

I've worked with pretty much everything from boring mills to grinders edm cnc lots of Bridgeport work. It's nice to have a lot of experience making stuff when doing diy stuff. I have a lot of brackets and stuff I made for being able to hold my lights a few inches higher from before I started training well enough lol.
 
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Well right now I'm making mechanical clutches for aircraft and helicopters, mostly all cnc work. Before starting here I worked for 3 years as a moldmakers apprentice, mostly all of roush, eei global, TG North America and a few FoMoCo molds. Was great work and I really liked it the guys that I learned from were really good at what they did and I learned to do and run a lot of machinery. Also definitely broke me of any fears of moving heavy things, we had to flip 17 ton bus fender core halves on a single chain crane with wood blocks. There was a corner of the shop with some pretty nasty dings in the concrete. We were a smaller shop so the pay just wasn't good enough to compete with a UAW shop and with a kid on the way the money made more sense.

I've worked with pretty much everything from boring mills to grinders edm cnc lots of Bridgeport work. It's nice to have a lot of experience making stuff when doing diy stuff. I have a lot of brackets and stuff I made for being able to hold my lights a few inches higher from before I started training well enough lol.
Mold making was such a proud tradition its too bad that it doesnt get more respect. Shit no one even knows what it is. I was talking to an old friend, he,was building tools when i was serving my apprenticship. He only makes $27 an hour... i was shocked. But, he didnt really know any better. Hes a nose down worker bee and completely cool with it. I didnt have the heart to tell him some of those assholes in the office make twice that, and never make mistakes, because as soon as a job hits the floor its not their fault anymore (he knew that part).

I did mostly high cavitation medical stuff. Molds that cost 5 times more than my house. I started at a place called Prestige Mold, they have some interesting stuff on youtube. I never liked anything but grinding, IDOD, jig grinding, form grinding, etc.. Ive run everything else, I've even made cavities and cores on a pantograph for Mattel. But grinding is slow, ultra accurate, and not for everyone. I dig difficult trodes, or tricky core pins. I moved into the office, and became a project manager. From there i ultimately left the trade and struck off on my own doing product design. I still work for Prestige on the side. My last job for them was to prove outside vendors. I flew to Detroit to checl out a place called TNT EDM. Work is rediculously slow for me right now, i just took an interview with Goodyear... rubber, never thought id consider it.

The cartoon was given to my Grandfather from Mattel. He was their first Mold Builder.
 

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I would definitely spread them out a bit more. I actually have a trellis stretched across the floor of my tent that I use as a grid for spacing. I'm a machinist so I tent to be really anal about stupid shit like that, but then I can MacGyver a silencer for my fan out of a cardboard box duct tape a stapler and old egg cartons and not give two shits about how ghetto it looks. Funny how stuff like that works sometimes.

Your plants are looking much better sako, I agree the cuttings look very stressed but I don't think it's anything to worry about, just don't over water or overfeed them. I don't think a dose a cal mag would hurt though. Your girls in flower are actually praying a little bit in those pictures, clearly they are much happier, and I'm glad to see you're on the right track now. Just remember that keeping it simple as a new grower is almost always better, you don't need to worry about having a million additives or doing anything crazy because learning proper care is going to give you better quality higher yielding plants much faster than most of the snake oil companies try to push. 85% of it is your lights, environment, and care.
Thank you I appreciate it
 

Stltoed

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Well right now I'm making mechanical clutches for aircraft and helicopters, mostly all cnc work. Before starting here I worked for 3 years as a moldmakers apprentice, mostly all of roush, eei global, TG North America and a few FoMoCo molds. Was great work and I really liked it the guys that I learned from were really good at what they did and I learned to do and run a lot of machinery. Also definitely broke me of any fears of moving heavy things, we had to flip 17 ton bus fender core halves on a single chain crane with wood blocks. There was a corner of the shop with some pretty nasty dings in the concrete. We were a smaller shop so the pay just wasn't good enough to compete with a UAW shop and with a kid on the way the money made more sense.

I've worked with pretty much everything from boring mills to grinders edm cnc lots of Bridgeport work. It's nice to have a lot of experience making stuff when doing diy stuff. I have a lot of brackets and stuff I made for being able to hold my lights a few inches higher from before I started training well enough lol.
Hows Gumdrawp doing?
 

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Your lights look identicle to a couple Platinum P300 lights i started with. With these 2 lights and a P4 (I called it a P9 in a privious post, that was wrong?) I did pretty well. I have used Spectrum King, G8 and Black Dog since, but i got respect for those lights.
Hey bud!
Nice work there.
Just wondered what you thought about Spectrum King?
 

Stltoed

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Hey bud!
Nice work there.
Just wondered what you thought about Spectrum King?
I had high hopes (not to pun) for that light. I started my last grow with it and 2 P300s. I really didnt see the "reach" you would normally see from a young plant, but i was thinking maybe it was just a fluke, and actually went to buy another. It didn't work out. Spectrum King customer service is Dog shit. They straight up lie to you about due dates. 2 weeks after I placed my order and a couple calls we asked for a tracking number and they reluctantly said it wasn't shipped yet. The first ETA was 3 days. They are only 45 miles away from me. So my vendor and i made a deal on 2 400watt Phytomax 2 Black Dogs. Immediately the plants turned a corner. They were happy as fuck the day after i put the lights up.

It sucks. It's a cool light. It's made really well. It's very bright, and the light goes straight through to the grow media., but it doesnt seem to have the spectrum. To be fair, my grow experience with this light isnt very extensive, and i have zero scientific data. i only used it for part of one grow.

I know some folks love them. But the owner is a bit of a freak, and again their customer service is for shit. Go on YouTube to see the owner in action. If you live in So. Cal. They give tours. Another thing is their pricing. Ive seen this light for $2500 and may other silly numbers, you can buy it from them for $700. Im selling mine for $500. I think it's best to find someone who really knows this light. Someone who has multiple seasons under their belt. But, im glad i ended up with Black Dog
 

Stltoed

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Buds getting bigger. Started week 3 day 1 today
Oh sure... tease me with "buds are getting bigger". PICTURES!! haha.

Glad to hear things are moving along. In another couple weeks those buds are gonna start to really bulk up, the smell will get stronger, and touching them will glue your fingers together. Haha. That's a fun time. It's what all this is about. Good job man.
 

sako818

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Oh sure... tease me with "buds are getting bigger". PICTURES!! haha.

Glad to hear things are moving along. In another couple weeks those buds are gonna start to really bulk up, the smell will get stronger, and touching them will glue your fingers together. Haha. That's a fun time. It's what all this is about. Good job man.
Im trimming/ lollipoping them. Im post a pic tomorrow for you.
 
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