NooB Advice

well i havent totaly been posting along cuz im busy this morning, but i deffinatly have learned from this post =)
good job riddleme, no matter what u say some will think they have something better or atleast some critasism. so keep posting bro, i think this thread will help ALOT of noobs, shit my plants would b monsterous by now if i read this thread befor i planted em lol

how long you think till flowering...just to know im not trying to rush them...i dont even know the sex yet...can i start topping now?? i heard it promotes growth...

hey man, one of my homies told me that i have my lights to far away, n that my plants are stretching and wont yeild good, theyve been growing probly 3-4 inches taller everyday, i thought it wus the stretch phase of flowering. whats ur opinion?? there 3 months old, 7th day 12/12.im using 9 23 watt 2700k cfls and 2 13 watt 2700k cfls and 4 17 watt 4100k flouro tubes about 5 inches above the tallest tops. opinions from any one would b appreciated

jumboSWISHER said:

hey man, one of my homies told me that i have my lights to far away, n that my plants are stretching and wont yeild good, theyve been growing probly 3-4 inches taller everyday, i thought it wus the stretch phase of flowering. whats ur opinion?? there 3 months old, 7th day 12/12.im using 9 23 watt 2700k cfls and 2 13 watt 2700k cfls and 4 17 watt 4100k flouro tubes about 5 inches above the tallest tops. opinions from any one would b appreciated

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With the wattages you have I would move them closer, like from 5 inches down to 2 inches, and I agree that you are in the strectch or the push stage of flowering, UB has a thread on reducing the stretch that might help. (sorry don't have the link)

Your plant is looking good

There was a question that as yet has not been answered about temps & humidity???

and Thank you UB for answering a few questions, it's hard for me to do while at work (though I do look in)

Actually we're almost there, most of the points have been made I'm thinking we can get to the end this weekend WOO HOO

tonights question is,

I can think of 3 for sure reasons to keep em green (and 1 maybe)

Can you tell me what they are ???

im not sure if i totaly understand wut ur asking lol.. but keeping em green is a sign that your plant is happy and properly watered/fed/PHed have enough light/co2 and generally healthy

jumboSWISHER said:

im not sure if i totaly understand wut ur asking lol.. but keeping em green is a sign that your plant is happy and properly watered/fed/PHed have enough light/co2 and generally healthy

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This is completely true

but to try and and end any confussion, I mean in flowering and the term (or mantra) to keep em green as opposed to letting em yellow and die like most growers do when they are flowering.

I'll give ya one of the reasons to get you thinking,,,,

You can double harvest the plant by cutting the well developed buds from the top and then lower your lights to finish up the small popcorn buds at the bottom, if the plant is left green it will do this with no problems and the yield will be as much as 30% more

riddleme said:

There was a question that as yet has not been answered about temps & humidity???

and Thank you UB for answering a few questions, it's hard for me to do while at work (though I do look in)

Actually we're almost there, most of the points have been made I'm thinking we can get to the end this weekend WOO HOO

tonights question is,

I can think of 3 for sure reasons to keep em green (and 1 maybe)

Can you tell me what they are ???

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The most important reason imo is because without an abundance of healthy and lush green leaves to properly photosynthesize then we are missing out on the maximum bud production.

This is probably in the top five of questions asked "why are are my lower leaves yellowing and falling off, I'm in week 5 of flowering" and unfortunately people will respond with the typical answer "that's normal for flowering". What the hell does that mean? Why would I want my plant dying before I'm ready for it to harvested. UB, fdd2blk and several other respected growers teach the importance of a healthy root system. This promotes a healthy leaf witch in-turn promotes "MAXIMUM" bud production! Is that not what we as growers strive to achieve?

The farmers around where I live don't let there leaves and vines die off when they start producing what ever it is they are growing until they are ready to harvest to get the maximum production, so why would we deny our MJ "crop"what they need to produce the best end product?

Hey Riddle, I think maybe it is starting to click a little? Sorry for the ramble.

Big

riddleme said:

Ding Ding Ding

rambling is good sometimes

healthy green leaves = bigger buds

Still no takers on the the temp & humidity ???

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Not sure but you I think spoke of it in the thread eirlier? I think maybe that if the temp is to high, the leaves will start to "sweat" and with low humidity their is not enough water to replace what is lost?

Have not looked at them together. I kinda looked at them as a peramiter of their own. Good temp's. Proper humidity. I need to look at the two a little closer.

Big

for temp&humidity from my eperience, to warm + to humid = mold
to low of temps will stunt your plant and it wont properly grow because its just trying survive, and to high of temps will also stunt it from growing properly and will burn it, just like a sun burn, nothing likes sun burn lol and for humidity im pretty sure its that the leaves are just as important as roots when it comes to water intake, to much humidity your plant droops as if its over watered, without enough humidity it'll b dry and brittle with no flexability, so dying falling off leaves. i think... lol

aaahhhh jus read bak a few pages.. now i think im gettn wut ur sayn. when its to hot the plants wants to perspire, if its to humid it isnt able to. when its cold the leaves dont want to perspire, but will if it also to humid?? so keep the temps and the humidity balanced so the plant can perspire and not perspire when it needs to..??

Good answers & points

but I want you to think heat index, in reference to creating that perfect environment. Ever hear the weather man say the heat index is making it "feel" like

lets use my temp of 72F and humidity of 33% the heat index is 76.55

the combination of temp & humidity affect what the plant actually feels same as you and me

here is an online calculator, play with values to see combinations that work well together

not trying to interfere,but the male plant wil get you high,and i dont need a major in horticulture ,i know thru real life experience,they will get you high ,leaf and all,and i dint have to read a chemistry book either,the chinese have herbal remedies smoking the male elaves.

i actually have never used a humidity gage, so ne thing i know about humidity is what iv read. as for my grow room, i figure if its 75F and im almost sweating, its to humid. cuz on the news when they say today is 75F with 40% humidity i dont sweat outside lol so in my grow room it must b higher then 40%

Uncle Ben on Fans said:

It doesn't, just another lame forum paradigm that won't die.

UB

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So what happens if I 86 the fan to save on electric and noise? Do I need it for anything?

ryobidrill said:

So what happens if I 86 the fan to save on electric and noise? Do I need it for anything?

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Fans do not use that much electricity and while it does not aid in stem strength it does aid in the circulation of fresh air & CO2 which is needed

can also be used to help control temps and cool lights in an indoor enviroment, mine is aimed at the light bulb

I started a separate thread for this question, but I don't think it would hurt to ask it here. Is there a reliable way to clone a flowering plant? I got one that's just turning out to be a bigger plant some how and flowered at the flick of the switch... the rest are on 8 hour light for two weeks and just don't want to flower... So I need more clones of this one. All the leaf clones died, so I've gone to using non flowering branches from the bottom of the plant and I'm adding rooting hormone. I don't have a cloner or anything like that, just some cups under 24 hour light.

ryobidrill said:

I started a separate thread for this question, but I don't think it would hurt to ask it here. Is there a reliable way to clone a flowering plant? I got one that's just turning out to be a bigger plant some how and flowered at the flick of the switch... the rest are on 8 hour light for two weeks and just don't want to flower... So I need more clones of this one. All the leaf clones died, so I've gone to using non flowering branches from the bottom of the plant and I'm adding rooting hormone. I don't have a cloner or anything like that, just some cups under 24 hour light.

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8 hour light is to little 10 is accepable 12/12 is best

you can successfully clone a flowering plant but rooting takes longer usually over 20 days and best if the plant is low on N

I posted a link in this thread earlier to my favorite clonning tute

zeyroc420 said:

not trying to interfere,but the male plant wil get you high,and i dont need a major in horticulture ,i know thru real life experience,they will get you high ,leaf and all,and i dint have to read a chemistry book either,the chinese have herbal remedies smoking the male elaves.

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i read that if you get buds that aren't as potent as youd like you can boil the male plants in alcohol and simmer until it reduces to a thick glue and coat your buds with it and it adds thc...

so do you clone in veg stage before flower or aftercrop?