Nutrient mix up
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Budzbuddha
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Why would want to do that ?
TeeRogers
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Just asking because It's my first time
Budzbuddha
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Pick one ... each has been ratioed npk according to use.
If i would pick one ... it would be jacks
If i would pick one ... it would be jacks
Rdubz
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If you asking about additives yes you can mix with other base nutes u just have to be careful PH fluctuations with certain things some may not mix well and will be fighting each other , I had that happen before I was using AN base Nutes and added something like Turpinator or something can't remember all I know is it didn't like being at 5.8 it was like it had its own mind kept popping up and down chemical reactions are key and less is better
TeeRogers
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I understand that completely I appreciate you
Rdubz
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No problem and I do agree with @Budzbuddha , if it where me I would go with Jack's , I been using AN jungle juice 3 part for many years and I'm finally moving in to the dark side Dry salts is where it's at so much more cost effective and everyone's posted about Jacks has had nothing but good things to say granted I just ordered it and I'm trying to finish my last bit of water nutes left and then By By water nutes .. cheers hope this helps!
OldMedUser
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I've been using AN 3-part for 20 years. I bought gal jugs about 5 years ago and just now noticed that the N-P-K ratios have changed but I've been using it just like the older stuff that has the same ratios as the Jungle Juice and the GH 3-part. This may explain some of the problems I've seen in flowering especially when I switch to Lucas Formula feeding after the stretch. I have 1L bottles of the older pre-pH Perfect 3-part and dug them out to check.
Old AN, JJ and GH are Grow - 2-1-6, Micro - 5-0-1, Bloom - 2-5-4
This 5 yo AN 3-part is Grow - 1-0-4, Micro - 2-0-0, Bloom - 1-3-4
Totally throws thing off to what I had become so accustomed to. I'm going to have to sit down and reformulate some of my mixes to be feeding each nute at the same ratios I was before. Much more diluted now too. With less than half the N as before it throws the Lucas feeding way off. No wonder the old leaves yellow out so fast and early.
I also have some REMO nutes from winning a 7 - 250ml bottle kit in a raffle at a hydro store I deal with and their ratios are different again.
G - 2-3-5
M - 3-0-1
B - 1-4-7
Flip a coin I guess or dust off the math books and nail it down.
Rdubz
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Wow never knew that! Omg okay well they kept telling me no you don't need Cal-mag with our product and guess what I had to use Cal-mag lol and maybe due to it being RO water but they still claimed there wasn't a need but now that you just told me think I wonder if that's what I had before was the older stuff but I have since the last 5 years purchased more so I can't say for sure if I did have the older stuff beforeI've been using AN 3-part for 20 years. I bought gal jugs about 5 years ago and just now noticed that the N-P-K ratios have changed but I've been using it just like the older stuff that has the same ratios as the Jungle Juice and the GH 3-part. This may explain some of the problems I've seen in flowering especially when I switch to Lucas Formula feeding after the stretch. I have 1L bottles of the older pre-pH Perfect 3-part and dug them out to check.
Old AN, JJ and GH are Grow - 2-1-6, Micro - 5-0-1, Bloom - 2-5-4
This 5 yo AN 3-part is Grow - 1-0-4, Micro - 2-0-0, Bloom - 1-3-4
Totally throws thing off to what I had become so accustomed to. I'm going to have to sit down and reformulate some of my mixes to be feeding each nute at the same ratios I was before. Much more diluted now too. With less than half the N as before it throws the Lucas feeding way off. No wonder the old leaves yellow out so fast and early.
I also have some REMO nutes from winning a 7 - 250ml bottle kit in a raffle at a hydro store I deal with and their ratios are different again.
G - 2-3-5
M - 3-0-1
B - 1-4-7
Flip a coin I guess or dust off the math books and nail it down.
OldMedUser
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This is the old feed chart from the back of the 1L bottles that have the same formulation as the Jungle Juice so may be useful. I just took a pic and cropped it down.
OldMedUser
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Supposedly you don't need CalMag when using AN with RO water. I never used it for years and the only deficiency I ever noticed was low Mg and I fixed that with Epsom Salts. Even now I just use a little bit of it more to cover my ass than seeing a need. More in hydro than in my ProMix HP grows as the ProMix has lots of dolomitic and calcitic lime already added. That will easily make up for for what's missing from the tap water. Ca and Mg in most tap water is in the form of carbonates and not readily available to the plants anyway. The nitrate forms in CalMag are easier for them to get.
Rdubz
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Thats so different now you know what this does help me
Very helpful actually more than you know ,,, Granted I would never hit 2000ppm but it's interesting how they have changed!
TeeRogers
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Most definitely