Nutrients for soil grows

rchapmanitt · Dec 17, 2016

Wow! That looks healthy and very green!

MichiganMedGrower · Dec 17, 2016

rchapmanitt said:
Wow! That looks healthy and very green!

It took some patience I didn't have but I learned to water properly and to transplant at the right time.

OutofLEDCloset · Dec 21, 2016

MichiganMedGrower said:
Ocean Forest with about 20% perlite added and Pure Blend Pro Grow only when the soil becomes depleted about week 3 in flower.

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Pure Blend Pro Gro only?

MichiganMedGrower · Dec 21, 2016

OutofLEDCloset said:
Pure Blend Pro Gro only?

Yes. There is a video on the Dude Grows show that has the president of Dyna gro admitting he only offers the Bloom bottle because of customer demand but recommends foliage pro all the way through for marijuana.

The reason is that the potting mix is a buffer. The roots feed from the citation exchange in the soil. So we are only really re stocking our pots with nutrients and trace elements. They just need to be in balance.

The common problems we keep seeing all over is from that nutrient reserve having too much pk.

OutofLEDCloset · Dec 22, 2016

MichiganMedGrower said:
Yes. There is a video on the Dude Grows show that has the president of Dyna gro admitting he only offers the Bloom bottle because of customer demand but recommends foliage pro all the way through for marijuana.

The reason is that the potting mix is a buffer. The roots feed from the citation exchange in the soil. So we are only really re stocking our pots with nutrients and trace elements. They just need to be in balance.

The common problems we keep seeing all over is from that nutrient reserve having too much pk.

Thank you for the reply. Im guessing the plants stay fairly green all the way through. Dosage?

Bank Breaker · Dec 27, 2016

MichiganMedGrower said:
It took some patience I didn't have but I learned to water properly and to transplant at the right time.

whats your watering technique??

MichiganMedGrower · Dec 27, 2016

Bank Breaker said:
whats your watering technique??

I only water when the pots are at least dry 3/4 of the way to the bottom. And I always water with 15 - 20% runoff.

They feel alarmingly light at this point like when you lift the pot it feels like "oops". Like you forgot to water.

Seedlings can take a week before dry in the 16 oz. party cups. 5 days is common for young plants in 1 gallon pots and 3 days is the standard in my garden for mature flowers in 3 gallon containers.

And when the cycle hits 3 days or less is when I transplant up.

MichiganMedGrower · Dec 27, 2016

OutofLEDCloset said:
Thank you for the reply. Im guessing the plants stay fairly green all the way through. Dosage?

Sorry I missed your reply.

I use 5 to 15 ml PBPG. Only a couple of plants have needed 20. The goal is green all the way through. But I have learned to not to try to green up plants that want to turn some leaves yellow or purple. I taper feed off at the end. They tend to start and end with 5ml per gallon.

Bank Breaker · Dec 27, 2016

MichiganMedGrower said:
I only water when the pots are at least dry 3/4 of the way to the bottom. And I always water with 15 - 20% runoff.

They feel alarmingly light at this point like when you lift the pot it feels like "oops". Like you forgot to water.

Seedlings can take a week before dry in the 16 oz. party cups. 5 days is common for young plants in 1 gallon pots and 3 days is the standard in my garden for mature flowers in 3 gallon containers.

And when the cycle hits 3 days or less is when I transplant up.

do you find 5gallons too big? i always thought 3g was a bit small.. had to water too often..

MichiganMedGrower · Dec 27, 2016

Bank Breaker said:
do you find 5gallons too big? i always thought 3g was a bit small.. had to water too often..

Been doing it the way I describe for 3 + years with pretty great results. The sativa heavy hybrids I grow would get too big if I vegged long enough for a 5. More important to develop a better root ball for indoors IMO.

Nick Nugget · Jan 6, 2017

SxIstew said:
General Organics full line
GROW
per gallon

BioGrow 10mL
BioRoot 10mL
CalMg 5mL
BioWeed 5mL
Bio Marine 10mL
Diamond Black 5mL(first 2 weeks)
FloraNectar 10mL(for blue dream mother only, right now....)

BLOOM
BioBloom 10mL
BioRoot 10mL(first week only)
CalMg 5mL
BioBud 5-10mL(recommended 2.5-5mL)
BioMarine 10-20mL
FloraNectar 15-20mL(depending on flavor and strain)

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I'm loving the General Organics Go Box. Will continue to use in the future.

hillbill · Jan 15, 2017

I keep my containers filled with 1.8 to 2.8 gallons of my latest organic mix in flower for ease of moving and train each plant to it's container. My mix is highly evolved for my use. My tent is always perpetual and I top dress with fish bone meal, castings and ashes at 4 weeks. Water clear then compost tea then molasses water and occasional alfalfa tea

I made a mix with very high portion used which I will run soon to see what happens.

Some of the most helpful amendments for me have been Alfalfa meal (which is magic), Black Gold castings mix is a bargain, Back To Nature cotton burr compost, Black Kow manure and I am developing a real liking for fish bone meal. Back To Nature is the only cotton burr compost I bother with and it is damn good and consistent.

Basic medium is anything from middleweight like Fafard 3B or Pro Mix or similar.

ChaosHunter · Jan 18, 2017

I wonder why this forum doesn't have a section to soil growers who don't go all the way OMRI organic ?

Javadog · Jan 18, 2017

"Nutrients for dirt grows"

??

:0)

The floor is pretty open to non-organic ideas too.

MichiganMedGrower · Jan 18, 2017

ChaosHunter said:
I wonder why this forum doesn't have a section to soil growers who don't go all the way OMRI organic ?

I'm in. I like potting soil and bottled nutes. :-)

Ovah · Jan 20, 2017

jimihendrix1 said:
Sorry for the late reply.

The Promix HP is high porosity and dries out probably faster than necessary.

If you want to keep it simple ? And youre using chemical grow ?

This what we do, but also remember fert recommendations are just that. Recommendations. Watch youre plants and learn their reactions, or non reaction.

To keep it as simple as possible seek out some Promix BX, you need to add NOTHING to the soil if you do what we do.

Then look into some

Sun Bulb x Better Grow Orchid Fertilizer. These people have been in business since the 50s, are also endorsed by the American Orchid Society, and they only use the highest quality chemicals. And that means NO UREA NITROGEN.

They have both Veg/Flowering formulas, and are available online, and are cheap IMHO.

They are also 100% Complete Formulas, and this means this products also contain Magnesium. Which is the #1 deficiency for container grown plants, and MJ uses a lot of Magnesium. nd again the Mag is from a very Bioavailable source. They do not short change you on the quality, and source of the chemicals.

For seedlings we mix the formulas together at a rate of.

1 tsp Veg x 1 tsp Flower x 5 gallons water Feed each watering.

As they get out of seedling stage 2 tsp veg x 1 tsp flower x 5 gallons water.

Flowering is 2 tsp flower x 1 tsp Veg. x 5 gallons water.

Sun Bulb Company Inc
sunbulb.com

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Non-organic fertz?

jimihendrix1 · Jan 30, 2017

Ovah said:
Non-organic fertz?

Yes.

For Organic I mainly use Peruvian Seabird Guano ( Veg/Flowering formulas ) , Bioactivator, Calcitic/Dolomitic Lime, Kelp Powder, Azomite, Mycorize.

In veg in organic I use 2 parts Veg x 1 Part flowering formula, and in flowering, Reverse it.

Kevin Pickford · Jan 30, 2017

MichiganMedGrower said:
Sorry I missed your reply.

I use 5 to 15 ml PBPG. Only a couple of plants have needed 20. The goal is green all the way through. But I have learned to not to try to green up plants that want to turn some leaves yellow or purple. I taper feed off at the end. They tend to start and end with 5ml per gallon.

I started growing years ago with PBP grow and bloom (and still use) but switched primarily to CNS17.. THE SMELL!

MichiganMedGrower · Jan 30, 2017

Kevin Pickford said:
I started growing years ago with PBP grow and bloom (and still use) but switched primarily to CNS17.. THE SMELL!

Why would the cns17 improve smell. That is their only formula without added organics.

They made the Kind Trio to combine minerals and organic fertilizers. That is for the terpene content. Wider array of micronutrients with the seaweed added.

Kevin Pickford · Jan 30, 2017

MichiganMedGrower said:
Why would the cns17 improve smell. That is their only formula without added organics.

They made the Kind Trio to combine minerals and organic fertilizers. That is for the terpene content. Wider array of micronutrients with the seaweed added.

Sorry.. the smell of PBP grow is slightly offensive.. not the final product..PBP had one of the best result/tastes end result.

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