Nutrients for soil grows

Sam sneak

Active Member
Yeah I know its alive but it's what you put back into it that matters sometimes it's good to start from scratch and it's mostly about drainage and the nutrients in the soil and there's so many different things you can do to enrich it could be guana or manure or compost or liquid nutes seaweed and alsorts you can always make it better then it was
 

PadawanWarrior

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Yeah I know its alive but it's what you put back into it that matters sometimes it's good to start from scratch and it's mostly about drainage and the nutrients in the soil and there's so many different things you can do to enrich it could be guana or manure or compost or liquid nutes seaweed and alsorts you can always make it better then it was
I agree, but we call it guano here, lol.
 

speedwell68

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I might actually get some and try it is it for vegging any thing you would recommend for vegging plants
Farn Yard manure or Chicken Manure.

My mix at the moment is 1 part green compost, 1 part wood compost, 1 part rotted farm manure and 1 part perlite. I also add some Mycorrhiza to the base of the root ball when I pot up the seedlings and I will top dress the pot with Epsom Salt too.

Like I say it works, but needs some tweaking. I feel it is a has a little bit too much N in it, whilst I don't get any nute burn as such, the plants did have a tendency to be a very dark shade of green. I had considered mixing in a little coco, but I am trying to steer away from imported products. I have considered ditching the perlite, but I shan't bother as I have that much of it in stock I won't need to think about that for about 3 years.
 

Sam sneak

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Yeah coco sounds not very good at holding water like I know need to water bit more then soil and to be honest soil is natural the taste can't be beat really aye
 

Sam sneak

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Yeah maybe your right but I'm sure you can taste the difference if it's soil or hydroponics to a degree but I ain't a expert I know there is a difference between indoor and outdoor grown so there is definitely a difference the way u grow it in water or dirt I kind of wish I smoked still just to find out myself good point thanks
 

Hiphophippo

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Soil mix is
8 gallons Amish horse manure aged five years amended
8 gallons perlite
8 gallons coco
4 1/2 cups garden tone
4 cups North Atlantic kelp meal
3 cups garden lime
20 tsp’s recharge
5 lbs glacial rock dust
cooked for forty days

top dress with dolomite lime , kelp meal , garden tone each one cup and one cup glacial rock dust , and one cup Ewc’s also adding in 4-5 tsp’s epsom salt then covered with garden straw with tack that’s for veg top dressing once every three weeks or so

for flower I use cup kelp meal one cup garden tone , 4 tsps epsom salt, Gaia green 2-8-4 one cup and super phosphate at about a quarter cup per plant that’s for flower

I only use silica and cal mag in my water every other watering using plain well water ph’d at around 6.2 - 6.5

also giving each plant about ten ozs of recharge twice weekly

I use silica in with my foilure spray and well water

I use TNB for ph’ing my water
 

Sam sneak

Active Member
Soil mix is
8 gallons Amish horse manure aged five years amended
8 gallons perlite
8 gallons coco
4 1/2 cups garden tone
4 cups North Atlantic kelp meal
3 cups garden lime
20 tsp’s recharge
5 lbs glacial rock dust
cooked for forty days

top dress with dolomite lime , kelp meal , garden tone each one cup and one cup glacial rock dust , and one cup Ewc’s also adding in 4-5 tsp’s epsom salt then covered with garden straw with tack that’s for veg top dressing once every three weeks or so

for flower I use cup kelp meal one cup garden tone , 4 tsps epsom salt, Gaia green 2-8-4 one cup and super phosphate at about a quarter cup per plant that’s for flower

I only use silica and cal mag in my water every other watering using plain well water ph’d at around 6.2 - 6.5

also giving each plant about ten ozs of recharge twice weekly

I use silica in with my foilure spray and well water

I use TNB for ph’ing my water
What does Epsom salts do I've always wondered
 

Hiphophippo

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When you water your soil or whatever medium your using your removing natural salts from the medium without replenishing them you risk lock outs and other issues salt helps provide stability in your stalk helps the plant grow and helps buffer nutrients for uptake in the roots . salt the foundation to life without getting all scientific
 
What does Epsom salts do I've always wondered
Epsom salt is Magnesium Sulfate. Calmag is Calcium Magnesium. The only difference is one of timing. Plants always want more mag because its the 1st element to run short in the process of Photosynthesis. Calmag is used in veg and early flower as plants benefit more from the calcium at those times. Its in week 5 or 6 flower that you switch to Mag Sulfate when plants are ripening/finishing. This can come in the form of Epsom salt, or botanicare's sweet, or gh flora nectar, etc...
 

Frank Nitty

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Epsom salt is Magnesium Sulfate. Calmag is Calcium Magnesium. The only difference is one of timing. Plants always want more mag because its the 1st element to run short in the process of Photosynthesis. Calmag is used in veg and early flower as plants benefit more from the calcium at those times. Its in week 5 or 6 flower that you switch to Mag Sulfate when plants are ripening/finishing. This can come in the form of Epsom salt, or botanicare's sweet, or gh flora nectar, etc...
I need to go get some of those right now!!!
 

Sam sneak

Active Member
Epsom salt is Magnesium Sulfate. Calmag is Calcium Magnesium. The only difference is one of timing. Plants always want more mag because its the 1st element to run short in the process of Photosynthesis. Calmag is used in veg and early flower as plants benefit more from the calcium at those times. Its in week 5 or 6 flower that you switch to Mag Sulfate when plants are ripening/finishing. This can come in the form of Epsom salt, or botanicare's sweet, or gh flora nectar, etc...
Oh so u use Epsom salts when you almost finished right I'm at week 5 now do I use Epsom now
 

speedwell68

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Oh so u use Epsom salts when you almost finished right I'm at week 5 now do I use Epsom now
I use it throughout the grow. I will top dress the pot with a TBSP of it when I pot up. After the first month of veg I give it weekly, 2 TBSP a gallon. Then 2 TBSP a gallon every other feed after they start to flower, then I will tail it off slowly a couple of weeks from the end.
 
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