Oaksterdam t-5 veg 600w hps flower

Shrubs First said:

About pruning the lower branches. It has various advantages over the unpruned
bushes which are so abundant on this website.

1. More airflow underneath the plants.

2. Less undergrowth and surface for pests to live.

3. Less humidity near the base, along with the better airflow
helps prevent the Powdery Mildew.

4. If you are feeding by hand applications, via either Pump/Waterwand
or with a simple watering pail it is easier access to the root zone.

5. Obviously when you trim those lower branches who's nuggets
wouldnt really amount to anything except air leafy matter, the
energy isn't lost, it is diverted, the mass/energy (because mass is energy)
that would have gone there will be redirected in to your main cola/colas...
Making the main colas that much more massive.

The disadvantages I see are mostly from mess ups. As long you don't trim
too much at one time, the plant will not halt growth. Trimming at several
stages, once/twice in veg, and once around 2-3 weeks in flowering will help
prevent over trimming at once.

We all want to grow all nug, not some nug, lots of stems and some leaf....
With indoor lighting your lights only have so much penetration, it is much
more efficient to focus that light and energy on the most productive zones.

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Drella said:

right on shrubs, thanks for clearing that up. the plants are looking great today. the sativa, OGKGC that was 20" at start is now at 27" every cola stretching like crazy. i see the sativas getting way denser, not necessarily "stretching". new growth site, next day one or two more new growth sites in the same stalk, crazy! i feel like they're doing chill, they look happy. white hairs are getting longer! would you guys be adding molasses right now as well, what are the benefits?
what's the best way to use molasses? where do you get it?

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Kriegs said:

Uhmmm... do we want to be filling up Drella's soil grow thread with hydro growing details and the best deals on airstones? Up to Drella, of course, and it's all great info, but...

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BooMeR242 said:

this is grow talk not irrelevent hydro. anyone who grows indoor is gonna use sum sort of rez for nutes or water. at least on a larger scale like wat im doin. yes of course u can spend more time doin cup fulls of nutes and like i said even a 5gallon bucket was too time consuming for me. but no matter wat u do ull need sum sort or airstone or pump like shrubs said.

we are discussing organic tea mixing and nute management. u need to keep ur water airated and water moving so its not stagnant. drella wants to use molasses he wanted to know the methods to use it. and here it is... (above)

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BooMeR242 said:

this is grow talk not irrelevent hydro. anyone who grows indoor is gonna use sum sort of rez for nutes or water. at least on a larger scale like wat im doin. yes of course u can spend more time doin cup fulls of nutes and like i said even a 5gallon bucket was too time consuming for me. but no matter wat u do ull need sum sort or airstone or pump like shrubs said.

we are discussing organic tea mixing and nute management. u need to keep ur water airated and water moving so its not stagnant. drella wants to use molasses he wanted to know the methods to use it. and here it is... (above)

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terrorizer805 said:

Did you forget that he is growing in soil?
All I do is mix the molasses in with my nutrients in a 5 gallon bucket takes me no more than 3 mins to do, no need for pumps and air stones, unless of course you using hydro, which Drella is not.

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terrorizer805 said:

If you are going to use molasses make sure it's the unsulphered type, also I add 1 TBS per 2 gallons of H20 you can add more if you'd like but that's just me. Molasses feeds the benificial bacteria living in your soil. You can buy it at your local grocery store.

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d.c. beard said:

Or you can get a giant 2 gallon container of horticultural-grade molasses from your local shop for about $15.00. It WILL last you the rest of your life!


Drella - I wouldn't use any sweeteners yet, you'll end up with a sugar cube for a rootmass and the bugs will move in in droves. Fungus gnats everywhere. Just use a sweetener 2 or 3 times in the last 3 weeks of flower. Constantly feeding with it just invites pests. Some peeps on here use it all the time, but I wouldn't recommend it.

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Shrubs First said:

Well this is just me but I would grab Humboldt Honey ES... That would be a great
carbo supplement for your crop, it is basically a premium blend of cane molasses, yucca, kelp and ocean fish....Dankness

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Shrubs First said:

About pruning the lower branches. It has various advantages over the unpruned
bushes which are so abundant on this website.

1. More airflow underneath the plants.

2. Less undergrowth and surface for pests to live.

3. Less humidity near the base, along with the better airflow
helps prevent the Powdery Mildew.

4. If you are feeding by hand applications, via either Pump/Waterwand
or with a simple watering pail it is easier access to the root zone.

5. Obviously when you trim those lower branches who's nuggets
wouldnt really amount to anything except air leafy matter, the
energy isn't lost, it is diverted, the mass/energy (because mass is energy)
that would have gone there will be redirected in to your main cola/colas...
Making the main colas that much more massive.

The disadvantages I see are mostly from mess ups. As long you don't trim
too much at one time, the plant will not halt growth. Trimming at several
stages, once/twice in veg, and once around 2-3 weeks in flowering will help
prevent over trimming at once.

We all want to grow all nug, not some nug, lots of stems and some leaf....
With indoor lighting your lights only have so much penetration, it is much
more efficient to focus that light and energy on the most productive zones.

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BooMeR242 said:

IMO i used the unsulphered blackstrap molasses i picked up from a organic food store i get shit fo rmy meal plans from and i mixed 1-2tbs per gallon of water. i think it was just 1tbs per gallon. but anyways i used it when i did my feedings during flower. i never had any issues with sugar roots gnats etc. i even know growers that flush with RO water and mollasses for their final week as well. sugars can fatten up ur buds alot compared to no sugars. so def use it but ull have to find ur own level of feeding. im not saying wat i did is best but it worked for me and no side affects. we did same method for indoor and outdoors.
use a 5 gallon bucket with an airstone and pump from ur hydro store or fish store to keep water moving and airrated water. i was doin it with my organic mix so i let the molasses sit in the bucket for 48 hours airstone on then 24hours off to sit then i feed. thats just the method i used. im actually over doin the whole organic nute tea mix and shit its messy and takes a lot of time. id rec using a bigger rez like a trashcans or barrel for long runs. but im switching to nute line up products for my sugars and shit. doin organic urself is more controlable and cheaper as well. sumthing to consider hope it helps bro

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Shrubs First said:

Reservoir is the way to go, but with that, just an airstone is not enough,


A simple aquarium blower in the reservoir keeps everything suspended
and mixing so you know every plant is getting an even distribution of nutrients.

I keep a pump connected to 2 large air stones along with 2 of these Koralia blowers
in my 20 gallon res, I also use an aquarium heater to get it to the proper temps, I
allow my nutes to mix and agitate for about 3-4 hours before application

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Drella said:

Looking great. giving them they're 2nd feeding in bloom today, (i fed them veg nutes the day before throwing in bloom) First feeding in bloom i gave them 1/4 bloom nutes, this time i gave them veg nutes. i think im gonna feed them veg nutes one or two more times till i switch over to bloom only. First pick is of OGKGC and Hinidu Skunk. man, you really can tell the difference between sativa and indica! Second pick is of the two quirkels, what a strange growing, indica, weird, dense leaf formation. one is in FFOF, the other is in Sunshine mix. third pick is what looks like the starts of a flower on the hindu skunk. next picks are of the clones, (i think in like day 10), last pic is of the veg room. from left to right, front to back, LAOG, WWARX 3 cheese, LAOG, and OGKGC. the WWARX 3cheese is the revegged, mutant bush. probably gonna give the OGKGC away to a buddy, i got clones of her, it's kinda hard to keep mothers of sativa, at least for me. too much space take up! i got clones of her anyway! any comments are appreciated, sorry i havent been on lately, i got sick!

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