Obama - "Polish Death Camps"

tomahawk2406

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My opinion, since his speeches are vetted completely, he did it purposely. It's about Russia and Germany. Bush gave the Poles a big standing. Obama is taking that back. These Chicago Machine types don't make mistakes like this.
nuts bro, just nuts......
 

Dr Kynes

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nuts bro, just nuts......
doesnt sound so nuts to me.

The obama administration's flunkies have been playing the word game so carefully (man-caused disasters, overseas contingency operations, etc...), and his teleprompter dependence is so legendary these kinds of mistakes should be very few and far between.

he seems to be stumbling over his own words so often i gotta wonder whats going on in the BHO operation when he gabbles on like a dimwit about the supreme court's "unprecedented move" to consider overturning some of obamacare's provisions (not too sharp for a "constitutional scholar")

"navy corpse men" (lulz)

or these awesome nuggets of cleverness:

"We're the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad." —Cincinnati, OH, Sept. 22, 2011

"The Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries." --Tampa, Fla., Jan. 28, 2010

"UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems." –attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare, while simultaneously undercutting his own argument, Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11, 2009

"No, no. I have been practicing...I bowled a 129. It's like -- it was like Special Olympics, or something." --"The Tonight Show", March 19, 2009

"I didn't want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any seances." --after saying he had spoken with all the living presidents as he prepared to take office, Washington, D.C., Nov. 7, 2008

"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." -- defending his tax plan to Joe the Plumber, who argued that Obama's policy hurts small-business owners like himself, Toledo, Ohio, Oct. 12, 2008

"What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith..." --in an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos, who jumped in to correct Obama by saying "your Christian faith,"

"On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong."

"I've now been in 57 states -- I think one left to go." --at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon

"It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." --explaining his troubles winning over some working-class voters

"In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died -- an entire town destroyed." --on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people

Who really needs joe biden?
 

The Yorkshireman

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lol pump your brakes bro, your not the only one that is aware of what happened at that time. and your 70% figure is dogshit

  • The statistical figures (as far as can be known) are carved into a marble plaque set into a wall within the prison block at Auschwitz,it's in the same room as a 5 ton pile of human hair and hundreds of empty Zyklon B canisters.







 

Dr Kynes

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Around 6 million Jews and around 8 million everybody else.
nope. around 5.2 million people killed by the deliberate acts of the nazi extermination programs. the six million number was a statistical estimate based on populations in europe before and after WW2. they werent all jews, nor were they all killed in death camps or by einsatzgruppens, and many escaped europe to safer lands. historians (real ones, not wackadoodle holocaust deniers) have come to the figure of 5.2 million persons, of every group murdered in total by the Final Solution and it's constituent programs, and an Additional 8 Million persons killed indirectly by the war, and accompanying famines worldwide.

so hitler's scorecard read like this

~14 million people killed of which about 3-4 million were jews, and the balance made up of gypsies, communists, socialists, catholics, slavs, russians, retards, cripples, critics of the nazi regime and other "undesireables"

not too shabby for the little corporal. Even Stalin couldnt match his high score.

the six million number was never 6 million jews. There werent even that many jews in all of occupied europe before the war. it was always six million murders by the nazis, and "most" of them (around 60%) were jews . Holocaust denier asshats use these simple and common misstatements to undermine the facts of the holocaust and hitler's madness for their own agenda.
 

billybob420

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Concentration camp is just a "nicer" way of saying death camp.

Auschwitz was called a "concentration camp" and it was clearly one of the worst "death camps" out there.

It's just what it's being called at that moment, they're both interchangeable terms since WW2.
That's not true though. Death camps were camps that they found evidence of extermination on a massive scale. A death camp is a concentration camp, but not all concentration camps were death camps. And Auschiwitz is in Poland.

EDIT: here's a map http://history1900s.about.com/od/holocaust/ss/Camps-Map.htm
 

Red1966

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nope. around 5.2 million people killed by the deliberate acts of the nazi extermination programs. the six million number was a statistical estimate based on populations in europe before and after WW2. they werent all jews, nor were they all killed in death camps or by einsatzgruppens, and many escaped europe to safer lands. historians (real ones, not wackadoodle holocaust deniers) have come to the figure of 5.2 million persons, of every group murdered in total by the Final Solution and it's constituent programs, and an Additional 8 Million persons killed indirectly by the war, and accompanying famines worldwide. so hitler's scorecard read like this ~14 million people killed of which about 3-4 million were jews, and the balance made up of gypsies, communists, socialists, catholics, slavs, russians, retards, cripples, critics of the nazi regime and other "undesireables" not too shabby for the little corporal. Even Stalin couldnt match his high score. the six million number was never 6 million jews. There werent even that many jews in all of occupied europe before the war. it was always six million murders by the nazis, and "most" of them (around 60%) were jews . Holocaust denier asshats use these simple and common misstatements to undermine the facts of the holocaust and hitler's madness for their own agenda.
One mistake. Stalin is estimated to have starved 20 million Russians to death.
 

Dr Kynes

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One mistake. Stalin is estimated to have starved 20 million Russians to death.
Estimated!

Dont bring that trash in here! it's confirmed kills or nothing! Hitler wont give up his crown so easily, so you best recognize the master at work! Stalin comes in a distant second in the real rankings, followed by Uncle Mao, Pol Pot, The Young Turks, Saddam Hussein and finally the US government in the genocide round robin. I tell you this, the US needs to step up it's game if we want to get into the final four! If we get eliminated before the finals then Obama will have some shit to answer for (yes i now blame Obama for the trail of tears, smallpox infested blankets and buffalo extermination, you're welcome!)
 

billybob420

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Estimated!

Dont bring that trash in here! it's confirmed kills or nothing! Hitler wont give up his crown so easily, so you best recognize the master at work! Stalin comes in a distant second in the real rankings, followed by Uncle Mao, Pol Pot, The Young Turks, Saddam Hussein and finally the US government in the genocide round robin. I tell you this, the US needs to step up it's game if we want to get into the final four! If we get eliminated before the finals then Obama will have some shit to answer for (yes i now blame Obama for the trail of tears, smallpox infested blankets and buffalo extermination, you're welcome!)
Even the numbers you can give for Hitler are estimates. You think someone actually knows the precise number who died during the holocaust? 20 million is widely excepted as Stalin's kill count.
 

Dr Kynes

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Even the numbers you can give for Hitler are estimates. You think someone actually knows the precise number who died during the holocaust? 20 million is widely excepted as Stalin's kill count.
the little corporal's numbers are backed up by written reports, orders, eyewitness testimony and even confessions by the perpetrators. you can take those scores to the bank bro. besides, taking all of the ukraine's grain harvest and leaving them to fend for themselves is not REALLY genocide. It's more like dictator assisted suicide, or accidental depopulation. Stalin was good, but not championship level.
 

Red1966

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Estimated! Dont bring that trash in here! it's confirmed kills or nothing! Hitler wont give up his crown so easily, so you best recognize the master at work! Stalin comes in a distant second in the real rankings, followed by Uncle Mao, Pol Pot, The Young Turks, Saddam Hussein and finally the US government in the genocide round robin. I tell you this, the US needs to step up it's game if we want to get into the final four! If we get eliminated before the finals then Obama will have some shit to answer for (yes i now blame Obama for the trail of tears, smallpox infested blankets and buffalo extermination, you're welcome!)
It's worse than you think. We can't even count the infected blankets. The original source for that tale was the college professor who lied about being a Native American to get government grants and preferential treatment. As there's been no other source than him, it probably never happened.
 

Dr Kynes

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It's worse than you think. We can't even count the infected blankets. The original source for that tale was the college professor who lied about being a Native American to get government grants and preferential treatment. As there's been no other source than him, it probably never happened.
And here i was hopin we could fish in the rubes by arguin over genocide stats like it was a sporting event. why you so mean?
 

Dr Kynes

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are there really death camps happening ?
yes and no.

the refugee camps in central and northeast africa are horrific, local strongman dictators and warlords take the food and supplies from international charities for use by their private "armies" of bandits, and they conscript kids as soldiers and whores from the refugees and villages.

North Korea has been systematically eliminating their own people for 60 years through a program of starvation and forced labour camps while the well fed army keeps plugging along at the bidding of the Kim regime

China's system of "re-education camps" and "labour collectives" represent what can only be described as slavery for those deemed undesireable for life in the industrialized or urban regions of China.\

Right here in the Good Ole USA the illegal immigrants (who should be enticed to freely cross the border at will) are subject to every indignity imaginable at the hands of unscrupulous agricultural, industrial and service companies. 1991, Somis California (about 20 miles from Malibu) 30 or so illegal aliens were held in chains as actual slaves on a flower and rose farm (http://www.nytimes.com/1990/04/28/us/5-charged-with-enslaving-mexican-workers.html)
 

NoDrama

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Right here in the Good Ole USA the illegal immigrants (who should be enticed to freely cross the border at will) are subject to every indignity imaginable at the hands of unscrupulous agricultural, industrial and service companies. 1991, Somis California (about 20 miles from Malibu) 30 or so illegal aliens were held in chains as actual slaves on a flower and rose farm (http://www.nytimes.com/1990/04/28/us/5-charged-with-enslaving-mexican-workers.html)
Really? Illegal immigrants who work on the farms are now the same as Jews in the ovens? That is a ridiculous statement.
 

Dr Kynes

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Really? Illegal immigrants who work on the farms are now the same as Jews in the ovens? That is a ridiculous statement.
ahem... DIPSHIT! in the USA holding slaves in bondage for forced labour is kinda frowned upon. we dont actually do that kind of shit anymore, except it still happens. while nobody is running einsatzgruppen to exterminate people or gassing anybody by the millions currently (that we know of) the creeping rot of dehumanization is taking it's toll all over the world, even in the USA. thats the damned point. did i say they were "retired" by composting their bodies into fertilizer for the fields they worked in life? did i make any statement about ovens? they were slaves held in bondage as chattel here in America. Who knows what might have been done to them eventually if a couple hadnt escaped to the mexican embassy. Insisting on finestoning every comment with the grinder of your personal agenda is neither helpful, informative or desired.

These illegal immigrants were not working in the fields they were SLAVES unpaid forced workers held in bondage. Their status as illegal immigrants made them vulnerable to the predations of the farm holder, or Pilgrims Pride poultry corp, or the janitorial service at wal-mart, or the sweatshops of the garment district. Shrugging it off as hyperbole is how the german people let a program of removing unsightly jews from their cities turn into a program of extermination. Likewise the classification of the jews (and now the illegals) as somehow sub-human or deserving of their treatment is just a few casual remarks from The One away from a final solution. (obviously Obama is not gonna give those orders, but a president Pat Buchanan might make an offhanded remark...) your smug smarmy and ignorant statements mark you as a cut rate mind and a third rate demagogue. god day sir.
 

NoDrama

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ahem... DIPSHIT! in the USA holding slaves in bondage for forced labour is kinda frowned upon. we dont actually do that kind of shit anymore, except it still happens. while nobody is running einsatzgruppen to exterminate people or gassing anybody by the millions currently (that we know of) the creeping rot of dehumanization is taking it's toll all over the world, even in the USA. thats the damned point. did i say they were "retired" by composting their bodies into fertilizer for the fields they worked in life? did i make any statement about ovens? they were slaves held in bondage as chattel here in America. Who knows what might have been done to them eventually if a couple hadnt escaped to the mexican embassy. Insisting on finestoning every comment with the grinder of your personal agenda is neither helpful, informative or desired.

These illegal immigrants were not working in the fields they were SLAVES unpaid forced workers held in bondage. Their status as illegal immigrants made them vulnerable to the predations of the farm holder, or Pilgrims Pride poultry corp, or the janitorial service at wal-mart, or the sweatshops of the garment district. Shrugging it off as hyperbole is how the german people let a program of removing unsightly jews from their cities turn into a program of extermination. Likewise the classification of the jews (and now the illegals) as somehow sub-human or deserving of their treatment is just a few casual remarks from The One away from a final solution. (obviously Obama is not gonna give those orders, but a president Pat Buchanan might make an offhanded remark...) your smug smarmy and ignorant statements mark you as a cut rate mind and a third rate demagogue. god day sir.
LOL dummy, the fella asked if there were still death camps, you replied that America has them and they are the agricultural jobs that Mexican immigrants freely take.

dumb fucker said this then denies it said:
Right here in the Good Ole USA the illegal immigrants (who should be enticed to freely cross the border at will) are subject to every indignity imaginable at the hands of unscrupulous agricultural, industrial and service companies.
So , yes, you did say that mexican immigrants working in the USA are in death camps where they will be executed by cyklon gas or fired in a oven, then buried in mass graves after their teeth have been picked clean of any gold. Its pretty obvious to anyone here who reads your post.
 
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