Official IRS Scandal

Many of the tea party groups opted to seek tax-exempt status as social welfare organizations under Section 501 (c) (4) of the federal tax code after the 2010 Supreme Court ruling in the Citizens United case.
That exemption allows groups to fundraise without disclosing donors, but requires that any participation in campaigns of elections must be for the promotion of social welfare.


So what acts of Social Welfare has these Tea party groups done?
Are they Community organizers as well?

You could make an argument that limiting government IS what's best for our social welfare. And you could make it better than the argument that we need MORE government for our social welfare.

So progressive organizations that want to increase the size and scope of government are actually doing harm to our social welfare (look at the divided country right now as government increases) but they also should not be targeted specifically by the IRS for their tax exempt status. Although that would be sweet irony. Let the groups that want to expand governments power get raped by that power, that's just karma to me.

ChesusRice said:

Many of the tea party groups opted to seek tax-exempt status as social welfare organizations under Section 501 (c) (4) of the federal tax code after the 2010 Supreme Court ruling in the Citizens United case.
That exemption allows groups to fundraise without disclosing donors, but requires that any participation in campaigns of elections must be for the promotion of social welfare.


So what acts of Social Welfare has these Tea party groups done?
Are they Community organizers as well?

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If they are slow boating, then are they fast tracking? I am very hopeful that is the case. Not like those that cheer one side. No, like a Che-ist that hates both sides. And who does not hate the IRS, in this last century.

So, it is a split of hair on a Red Herring to divide it this way I think. It is not about 501(a) vs 501(c). Community vs Politic or any other difference in my mind, save this.

Did they fast track all the 501s that said?:
Hope
Change
Forward
Moderate
Reason
Move
Fundamental
etc

Could you imagine that? It would throw the entire election into question. All the Leftists get going on money raising while the Right is hampered and harassed. Now, that is a scandal! Even the PUBS couldn't screw it up.

If they did, this Che-ist, hopes it will be enough of an insult to all Americans.

That would be a great win, if it finally resulted in the shake up that the IRS has needed for a long time.

Looking like criminal charges for Miller. He was asked this morning about the lie. Congress knows he had a briefing, but he came to Congress a few months ago and said he had no knowledge...Woops. Smoking gun.

Oh Man! Now they are asking about EPA stuff. Harassment of the Coke and Coal Lobby groups. Any group, Not Green.

And Religious groups and anti-Abortion......Damn.

And the DEMS are only about top cover. The red herring from the DEMS is too many applications. No, the corruption began in early 2010. That was before the increase in applications. Same bs as usual.

There was not enough staff is another piece of bs. No clear direction from Congress.... crap. These guys were being egged on by DEMS in the Senate.

You should hear some of the questions they asked these 501s. What books do you read? Did you go to Church as a child?
gaaaAAAH.

And the criteria in the record for these harassments, was those groups that were "obnoxious."

Good thing we are not Subjects.

Oh and Miller is a total idiot.

Shit this is getting better the person they tried to pin all this on is now over Obamacare.

The IRS official, Sarah Hall Ingram, served as head of the office that determined whether certain groups would be eligible for tax-exempt status between 2009 and 2012 and is now director of the IRS Affordable Care Act office.

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/17/18320618-irs-official-in-charge-of-scrutinizing-political-groups-now-heads-agencys-role-in-obamacare?lite

UncleBuck said:

let's see, 1 in 10 rank national security as a top concern.*30% approve of obama's handling of benghazi. 40% disapprove.

so that means out of 100 people, about 3 people's top concern was handled well, and 4 people's top concern was not.

let's do the math on that. 4 - 3 = 1 person.

so you've spent 8 months beating the benghazi horse, and what did you get out of it? 1 person out of one hundred. at best.

wow, give yourself a round of applause for that one! no way the GOP could have spent that time more productively, such as reaching out to the growing minority populations in america that they are isolating or trying to correct the damage they did with women voters.

what a formula for success!

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Is this the New Math at work? cn

ChesusRice said:

So what acts of Social Welfare has these Tea party groups done?

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they employed a lot of right wing blowhards for no good reason during the 2012 election.

i mean, so many of these groups had a 1% ROI, the right should be thanking the IRS at this point.

cannabineer said:

Is this the New Math at work? cn

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Never do math in public. Words to live by.

[h=2]In no uncertain terms and with no hedging, The New York Times reports that the Obama administration was aware of the fact that the IRS was targeting Tea Party groups as far back as June of 2012. The Treasury Department's Inspector General confirmed that he told senior Treasury officials in June of 2012, a full five months before Election Day:[/h]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/18/us/politics/irs-scandal-congressional-hearings.html?hp&_r=2&

How do we say this politically correct? Obama is suffering from truth deficiency?

ChesusRice said:

Many of the tea party groups opted to seek tax-exempt status as social welfare organizations under Section 501 (c) (4) of the federal tax code after the 2010 Supreme Court ruling in the Citizens United case.
That exemption allows groups to fundraise without disclosing donors, but requires that any participation in campaigns of elections must be for the promotion of social welfare.


So what acts of Social Welfare has these Tea party groups done?
Are they Community organizers as well?

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Maybe you should ask the TEA party's national outreach director, Niger Innis:

Oh my, what an unfortunate name.

ginwilly said:

Oh my, what an unfortunate name.

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MSNBC took full advantage:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/innis.asp

I'm trying to follow along. So, does everyone think this will reach back to the president or does he have a big enough smoke screen to deflect the scrutiny? All of this baffles me but when I read the posts it starts to interest me.

ChesusRice said:

Many of the tea party groups opted to seek tax-exempt status as social welfare organizations under Section 501 (c) (4) of the federal tax code after the 2010 Supreme Court ruling in the Citizens United case.
That exemption allows groups to fundraise without disclosing donors, but requires that any participation in campaigns of elections must be for the promotion of social welfare.


So what acts of Social Welfare has these Tea party groups done?
Are they Community organizers as well?

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What the fuck acts of "social welfare" have you done, "Mr I won't paint my house till I get a citation for it"?

SlaveNoMore said:

I'm trying to follow along. So, does everyone think this will reach back to the president or does he have a big enough smoke screen to deflect the scrutiny? All of this baffles me but when I read the posts it starts to interest me.

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Only my opinion: No, this won't hurt the prez unless you count embarrassment. If congress tried impeach Obama, can you imagine the howls from the lefties such as Unclebuck? The internet servers world-wide for the word, "RACIST", would crash and probably burst into flames.

desert dude said:

Only my opinion: No, this won't hurt the prez unless you count embarrassment. If congress tried impeach Obama, can you imagine the howls from the lefties such as Unclebuck? The internet servers world-wide for the word, "RACIST", would crash and probably burst into flames.

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It's not because he's mentally retarded or anything, it's because he's black...

Cool story leftie bros...

desert dude said:

Only my opinion: No, this won't hurt the prez unless you count embarrassment. If congress tried impeach Obama, can you imagine the howls from the lefties such as Unclebuck? The internet servers world-wide for the word, "RACIST", would crash and probably burst into flames.

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that's not the case at all, that's merely you trying to pretend like you're not a racist old fool.

desert dude said:

Only my opinion: No, this won't hurt the prez unless you count embarrassment. If congress tried impeach Obama, can you imagine the howls from the lefties such as Unclebuck? The internet servers world-wide for the word, "RACIST", would crash and probably burst into flames.

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LMAO....I do like you guys!! You remind me of my dad and uncle going back and forth. Thanks for the reply and your opinion. I'll continue to sit by and absorb.

ginwilly said:

Oh my, what an unfortunate name.

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Oh, see...I'm sure he is quite proud of that.
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The likeliest possibility is an alteration, by influence of Latin niger "black", Tuareg name egerew n-igerewen, river of rivers" which is used along the middle reaches of the Niger river around Timbuktu.
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Means, a mighty dark river, by all accounts. Cool name, regaining popularity from a high in the 90s.