Old School Skunk, who's found it???

PadawanWarrior

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Maybe really old Shiva Skunk. I grew some from 2005 about six months ago and it was not skunky at all.
When I started smoking in 1986 it was pretty much all super skunky in the Seattle area. I was under the impression that it was all Skunk #1. Not sure, but I would love to get that shit again.

The skunkiest strain I've grown yet is clone only Green Crack. But that had a fruity smell at the same time.

When I first ordered seeds I ordered some Skunk #1 from Sensi Seeds, but haven't grown them yet. I'm sure it's not gonna be the same, but I'd love to find it.
 

Gentlemencorpse

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Are you serious? What makes you say that?
Well if I'm off base I apologize but the idealized RKS Skunk spray thing everyone is looking for is pretty blatantly not in Skunk #1 or Shiva Skunk, which has been discussed ad nauseum across the cannabis growing community for years and you've been here long enough that I kind of just assumed you knew that and were just stirring the pot. Those two Skunk crosses have been so thoroughly explored at this point if there was a Skunk spray pheno to be found there it would be widely in circulation at this point. Skunk #1 in particular is known as the cross that pushed Skunk to the sweeter side.

But I'm probably just an asshole who made an unfair assumption.

To be honest, I'm kind of the opinion at this point that everyone is hunting for a memory that's been tainted by nostalgia, like when you try a restaurant for the first time and it's incredible and every time you go back it never quite seems to live up to that initial impression. It's just so hard to imagine that with so many people hunting it nothing notable has turned up yet. I mostly just follow this thread for the story...so many people collective hunting this one elusive smell
 

PadawanWarrior

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Well if I'm off base I apologize but the idealized RKS Skunk spray thing everyone is looking for is pretty blatantly not in Skunk #1 or Shiva Skunk, which has been discussed ad nauseum across the cannabis growing community for years and you've been here long enough that I kind of just assumed you knew that and were just stirring the pot. Those two Skunk crosses have been so thoroughly explored at this point if there was a Skunk spray pheno to be found there it would be widely in circulation at this point. Skunk #1 in particular is known as the cross that pushed Skunk to the sweeter side.

But I'm probably just an asshole who made an unfair assumption.

To be honest, I'm kind of the opinion at this point that everyone is hunting for a memory that's been tainted by nostalgia, like when you try a restaurant for the first time and it's incredible and every time you go back it never quite seems to live up to that initial impression. It's just so hard to imagine that with so many people hunting it nothing notable has turned up yet. I mostly just follow this thread for the story...so many people collective hunting this one elusive smell
Not trolling. I'm just trying to figure out what it was. I'm sure the newer Skunk #1 and Shiva aren't what they were 30+ years ago. But in the PNW it was all skunky. It's not in my head. I smoked it for years before I was sent to rehab. And when I started again it I didn't get that stuff anymore, but I was also in CA when I started again.

I've just got an open mind, so I didn't discard those 2 as being what I was getting back then. And I also haven't read all 121 pages of this thread.

I've got a Hell's OG growing now, and it kinda has a similar smell sometimes and it's just vegging. Well actually I flipped it a few days ago, but we'll see how it smells flowering. It has a similar structure to the Skunk strains. I'm sure it's not quite what we're looking for either, but personally I'd love to find it again. Ever since my first time smoking I've always liked the smell of dead skunks, :bigjoint:
 

UpstateRecGrower

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To be honest, I'm kind of the opinion at this point that everyone is hunting for a memory that's been tainted by nostalgia
Thats pretty much what I said a while back, memories aren't 100% accurate. Everyone I've ever talked to remembers it either when they were a kid or young adult when weed was new to them... anyone that isn't around weed regularly thinks it smells like skunk.
 

Gentlemencorpse

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If it's was just nostalgia we'd all be using pop cans still.
I'm not saying it's all nostalgia, just that nostalgia makes that old skunkiness smell stronger in our memories than it really was. I've grown or smoked so many "skunk" crosses at this point, many that even claimed to be RKS, and sometimes you get that Skunk spray note, but then some old timer is always like "that's not RKS!". And I'm over here like, prove it! It's not like we have a reference point. Everyone's like "I remember it from the 80s!" ... the 80s were a while ago fellas, I think we need a more recent reference point to compare too. Otherwise we're just hunting ghosts.

And then there's always the one dude who's like "it's real and my dad's second cousin grows it deep in Appalachia still" and I'm like then tell your dad's second cousin to send me a damn sample. Cause straight up if he can prove it I'll give him $10k for a cut today.

Anyways. That's my stoney baloney RKS rant for today.
 

decrepit digits

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Hmm nothing notable has turned up well lets see. shoreline cut, cheese cut, deathstar cut, green crack cut, chem 91 cut, renee cut. and so on and so on, the list goes on and on. It was bred to everything for a reason, and that's why there are so many different early versions people remember. You can only dilute something so many times then it becomes something else. Enjoy the hunt.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Hmm nothing notable has turned up well lets see. shoreline cut, cheese cut, deathstar cut, green crack cut, chem 91 cut, renee cut. and so on and so on, the list goes on and on. It was bred to everything for a reason, and that's why there are so many different early versions people remember. You can only dilute something so many times then it becomes something else. Enjoy the hunt.
Exactly. Green crack is half Skunk #1 too.
 

eastcoastmo

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My memory of skunk (which was most likely super skunk, tbh) was a really bright, pale green bud with orange hairs that just stunk to high heaven, it didn't matter how many bags you had it in or if it was vac sealed, it still stink out your house and car. I grew it once in my mum's backyard and the neighbours kept complaining about a dead animal for over a few months! To this day, I have not seen any buds that even come close to looking like that or smelling like that. It was almost too strong too, one solid bong hit and I remember nearly greening out on it. I've been looking for this for 20 years but it is gone!
 

mandocat

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My memory of skunk (which was most likely super skunk, tbh) was a really bright, pale green bud with orange hairs that just stunk to high heaven, it didn't matter how many bags you had it in or if it was vac sealed, it still stink out your house and car. I grew it once in my mum's backyard and the neighbours kept complaining about a dead animal for over a few months! To this day, I have not seen any buds that even come close to looking like that or smelling like that. It was almost too strong too, one solid bong hit and I remember nearly greening out on it. I've been looking for this for 20 years but it is gone!
 

mandocat

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I experienced that as well, in Oklahoma and California and it was so undeniable in terms of the odor! But the reason I remember the odor so well is that the high of that weed, California grown in particular, was spectacular! Even scary, on a very small amount. I am much more interested in finding that kind of high again, than that specific odor. Back to the age old question, can we ever truly revisit those experiences, even with identical genetics, many years apart? Set and setting are so important in our smoking experiences, I'll bet if you took something I grew to Hawaii, it would get you higher than it would in the continental US.
 

ncali

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Some of archive hear has the nose to it, rainbow driver. Smells like American skunk. But... you gotta hit that harvest window RIGHT ON POINT or it fades in the jar to garlic earthy stuff. Fwiw.

I used to drive around the western Sierra Nevada foothills as recent as 10 years ago and you can smell which little valleys had skunks in them.... to the trained nose, it wasn't an animal. Pretty big busts up there around those times. Quasi legal status for most operations, cartels hired boys to go camping in summer and fall. Dangerous time to hike "off trail" near certain national parks.
 

eastcoastmo

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I experienced that as well, in Oklahoma and California and it was so undeniable in terms of the odor! But the reason I remember the odor so well is that the high of that weed, California grown in particular, was spectacular! Even scary, on a very small amount. I am much more interested in finding that kind of high again, than that specific odor. Back to the age old question, can we ever truly revisit those experiences, even with identical genetics, many years apart? Set and setting are so important in our smoking experiences, I'll bet if you took something I grew to Hawaii, it would get you higher than it would in the continental US.
Yeah absolutely, I'd just love to smoke it again, I don't care about the smell either!
 

PJ Diaz

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The skunkiest strain I've grown yet is clone only Green Crack. But that had a fruity smell at the same time.
I never got much skunk from green crack, definately fruity though. I only grew it a couple of times. As I recall it was a very floppy strain that needs a lot of support.
 

PadawanWarrior

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I never got much skunk from green crack, definately fruity though. I only grew it a couple of times. As I recall it was a very floppy strain that needs a lot of support.
Wow, not the one I grew. Short and stalky usually. I grew it for years and it did want some support later when the buds fattened but less than most.

Flowered fast. Smelled good. Wasn't super picky. Hardy against PM and shit. Never hermied. Potent.

But since the leaf to calyx ratio is higher it was tougher to trim. But I loved her, and still am in a way. She lives on everytime I smoke her. :weed:
 

PJ Diaz

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Wow, not the one I grew. Short and stalky usually. I grew it for years and it did want some support later when the buds fattened but less than most.

Flowered fast. Smelled good. Wasn't super picky. Hardy against PM and shit. Never hermied. Potent.

But since the leaf to calyx ratio is higher it was tougher to trim. But I loved her, and still am in a way. She lives on everytime I smoke her. :weed:
This matches the description of what I grew here: https://tophatflor.com/green-crack/

"The stems of Green Crack are thin and grow horizontal so when stacked with baseball sized nugs it has nothing but trellis and stakes to support it."
 

conor c

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Mass Super Skunk is definitely still around in clone only form but I have to ask where you are and why you think that particular cut is the best place to start a breeding project to acclimate for your region?
Is there two cuts of the mass ss cos im sure when skunk va got it back from chemdog he said it was different also yes it was a indoor thing mostly i think
Mass Super Skunk is some great smoke but it can actually be kinda finicky in my experience. It definitely wouldn't be my first choice for a field in MA. I'm not 100% sure but I'm fairly certain it's creators we're indoor growers but I can say it definitely wasn't refined over generations to be acclimated to the environment in MA. In fact, it was more discovered than created if the stories are to be believed. It's got a great stone but I found it to be more burnt rubber and acetone than Skunk spray.

To be honest, I know it's way off from Skunk spray, but if I wanted to breed a strain primarily for outdoor growing in New England is probably start with Strawberry Cough. SC was brought to NY from CT by Kyle Kushman, and one of its parents was Strawberry Fields, a strain that was originally bred for outdoor growing in VT. It's supposed to be very mold resistant. I would love to find some actual Strawberry Fields but I've never seen it around. I have one cross that claims it has Strawberry Fields as a parent from a breeder in VT but I haven't gotten around to cracking it yet. Either that or just go with some good Afghan stock and start from scratch.

Not to discourage you from your endeavor, just didn't want you to spend a bunch of timing hunting down an MSS cut just to find out it wasn't at all what you were looking for!
I see well sounds like s1s of the mass ss would be maybe more interesting vs the actual cut as you know cos you can get throwbacks and stuff you might find something more like skunk spray then and other stuff plus a bunch of crap phenos obviously as with all s1s but if you had plenty of s1s of it then it is maybe worth a try
 
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