Opinions on LED's?

tybudz said:
"maybe your thumbs are black and not green " was a joke. if you cant handle go to grasscity !

If I throw a seed in ground with a black light I will get nugs. if you cannot have a good grow with LED my point was maybe you just arent that good at LED growing.
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Maybe you don't know what you are talking about? What if anything do you exactly know about LED grow lights? And no, your black light will not produce nugs.... you won't grow anything under a black light. Is that more humor or you just showing your ass?
 
I know from MY personal experience that they DO work. There are hundreds upon hundreds of different boards. Get one that's quality and you will have luck. Get one thats junk and you will grow junk. It's simple. It will take longer to pay for itself but it will be worth it if you enjoy what you get. Who cares what other people think. IT CAN BE DONE is all you really need to know. No matter which way you choose, there will always be a "better" way. If your way isn't "the best" but works for you, then go for it.
 
sfl420 said:
I know from MY personal experience that they DO work. There are hundreds upon hundreds of different boards. Get one that's quality and you will have luck. Get one thats junk and you will grow junk. It's simple. It will take longer to pay for itself but it will be worth it if you enjoy what you get. Who cares what other people think. IT CAN BE DONE is all you really need to know. No matter which way you choose, there will always be a "better" way. If your way isn't "the best" but works for you, then go for it.
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another person that has used the right stuff. did their research and was successful !
 
Medi 1 said:
so i talk shit cayuse ive tried em and hate em..just tryin to save people money,. you need more bud than that to make up the cost of them. and we tested the final product...was week. got the same from cfl`s
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Why don't you educate us with some facts sir? an you tell me about light wavelengths and the spectrums produced by say 630-660nm - 420-440-nm LEDs compared to say an HPS light? Can you also define PAR and explain why you believe the 85% of wasted spectrum in a typical HPS bulb is more beneficial? I'm waiting, "expert"
 
again remember. light may be a little pricy for quality but think of you GROW PRINT. no heat. low electricity !! I will pay a little more for same results with less RISK !!!
 
tybudz said:
its humor brother. I know alot about LED growing thats probably why I get the outcomes I do.
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I love the LED haters.... they have zero facts and always get upset when challenged.

Imagine how they felt when the tractor came along and put the farm's donkey out of work? Probably just as upset as they are in this thread.... We can put man on the moon, visit Mars and have humans living in orbit above us, surely we can grow good bud under LEDs.
 
LED were originally made buy nasa for grows in space. low consumption. High Output. Do you really think nasa would be using LEDs in space if they were not AMAZING. if you DO YOUR RESEARCH!!
 
Serapis said:
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I love the LED haters.... they have zero facts and always get upset when challenged.

Imagine how they felt when the tractor came along and put the farm's donkey out of work? Probably just as upset as they are in this thread.... We can put man on the moon, visit Mars and have humans living in orbit above us, surely we can grow good bud under LEDs.
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with that. They are probably never got a tractor and just talked crap about their production and how good they are without ever hoppin on one.
 
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bigv1976 said:
There are 3 types of people that are going to answer this question. There will be people that talk shit without knowing, people that support them without knowing and a very small percentage of answers who have actually grown with them so be careful who you listen to.
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This post is very accurate.

Medi 1 is simply a person talking shit without knowing. "ive tried about everyone on the market and all failed" Medi 1 is wrong. If Medi 1 had tried any UFO's or high wattage panels and failed, Medi 1 simply can't grow.

I have used LED's with much success like many others, the more light you have the better the result.
 

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Serapis said:
You bash LEDs every time I see the subject being brought up. I'd like to suggest you follow your own advice and Google the subject topic. You have a lot to learn. At least then you can cite studies and actual grows..... oh wait, if you did that, you would be a proponent of LED lights... :roll:

To the OP, ignore the close minded ones that can't cite facts or figures but just say LEDs suck. Here is an actual grow you can follow that proves LEDs outperform HIDs watt for watt...

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=160480

There are many more threads just like this one, just search for them.
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Im sorry but that does not show that the led is better..1 the guy used a 400 watt mh to flower and got 276 grams
2.the guy used leds got 203.Again he used a mh imagine if he used the hps.
Total Weight
Gold goes to the HID with 276 grams...

GPW
Gold goes to the LED with 203 grams...
 
wyteberrywidow said:
Im sorry but that does not show that the led is better..1 the guy used a 400 watt mh to flower and got 276 grams
2.the guy used leds got 203.Again he used a mh imagine if he used the hps.
Total Weight
Gold goes to the HID with 276 grams...

GPW
Gold goes to the LED with 203 grams...
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It does show that Watt for Watt LED performed better than the MH in this particular case. The LED in question is a 205 watt penetrator, less than half the wattage of the MH. Don't leave out less heat generated by the LED lights as well...
This is a victory for the LED in my book.
 
THT said:
It does show that Watt for Watt LED performed better than the MH in this particular case. The LED in question is a 205 watt penetrator, less than half the wattage of the MH. Don't leave out less heat generated by the LED lights as well...
This is a victory for the LED in my book.
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Dude you're talking about one stage of growth and power consumption. Heat is easily controlled. My 600w costs me about $40 extra a month = not a big deal. The HID yielded 73 more grams...that's over 2oz more harvest weight. In my neck of the woods that's over $400 worth of extra bud so it covers the cost nicely. The whole point of growing weed is for buds and the more harvest weight the better. Therefore LED = shitty HID = better. I love how every time someone tries to argue that LED's are better they always prove themselves wrong, it makes for an easy argument. Also take into consideration the cost....the LED light in question costs $700 and a 400w HPS costs around $165. HID is cheaper and more effective.
 
oJUICEBOXo said:
Dude you're talking about one stage of growth and power consumption. Heat is easily controlled. My 600w costs me about $40 extra a month = not a big deal. The HID yielded 73 more grams...that's over 2oz more harvest weight. In my neck of the woods that's over $400 worth of extra bud so it covers the cost nicely. The whole point of growing weed is for buds and the more harvest weight the better. Therefore LED = shitty HID = better. I love how every time someone tries to argue that LED's are better they always prove themselves wrong, it makes for an easy argument. Also take into consideration the cost....the LED light in question costs $700 and a 400w HPS costs around $165. HID is cheaper and more effective.
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I follow you here. You are right about HID lighting being the best bet for the money. I can't argue that LED lights in general are way over-priced as well. There are circumstances that exist where LED lighting is at least an effective "alternative" to HID.
The real appeal of LED lighting (to me) comes with its stealth attributes. Even the heat from a 250 watt HPS is too much for my area unless I was to run big obvious ducting(this would bother the wife). The other option was to keep the door of the tent open during light on, this results in a big obvious light that brings the entire closet and adjoining bathroom up 10 degrees to about 86 (this one really bothered the wife).
So for me the answer has been LED and CFL lighting.

And JuiceBox, I only stated that Watt for Watt the LED outperformed the MH, which is a true statement and in no way proves myself wrong ;)
 
lol...yeah yeah....technicalities haha. I see their use for small spaces, but not for a closet. And thank you for noticing the first words I said in this thread were "not worth it for the money" :mrgreen: I've never said they don't work.
 
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Still. watt for watt. LED is better ! again. that 40 dollars is probably a month. and for those who are growing forpersonal makes more since. and my led was not $700 dollars. thats crazy. i paid like 135 for my dual ufo. and I produce just as much as i did with MH/HOS.

I used to be an LED hater untill I did THE RESEARCH AND GREW WITH IT MYSELF !
 
THT said:
I follow you here. You are right about HID lighting being the best bet for the money. I can't argue that LED lights in general are way over-priced as well. There are circumstances that exist where LED lighting is at least an effective "alternative" to HID.
The real appeal of LED lighting (to me) comes with its stealth attributes. Even the heat from a 250 watt HPS is too much for my area unless I was to run big obvious ducting(this would bother the wife). The other option was to keep the door of the tent open during light on, this results in a big obvious light that brings the entire closet and adjoining bathroom up 10 degrees to about 86 (this one really bothered the wife).
So for me the answer has been LED and CFL lighting.

And JuiceBox, I only stated that Watt for Watt the LED outperformed the MH, which is a true statement and in no way proves myself wrong ;)
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THT 100%/ my wife probably would not like all that ventilation stuff all around. NO ONE EVEN KNOWS ITS THERE WITH MY LED and CFL setup!! and I get the same yield with less energy consumption and heat creation.
 
tybudz said:
THT 100%/ my wife probably would not like all that ventilation stuff all around. NO ONE EVEN KNOWS ITS THERE WITH MY LED and CFL setup!! and I get the same yield with less energy consumption and heat creation.
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Let's see some pics or I call bullshit. I don't hate LED's I just know that they cost mass money and don't produce as much bud as HID. Like I said I see the point in them for stealth grows but nothing else really. And yes it's $40 a month but like the link some tard posted proved the HID made 73 more grams of harvest weight. That's significant and more than pays for the extra power consumption 10x over. I don't understand the argument here. HID is cheaper and produces more harvest weight...the only facts you LED lovers have is less power consumption and heat. Who cares? This is so stupid, the OP isn't trying to do a stealth grow, he has a whole closet with a closing door and he's trying to grow multiple plants. HID!
 
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