Pandemic 2020

UncleBuck said:

cheeseburgers aren’t contagious

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Wants to challenge experts and a whole field of science with some back of the envelope calculations on a pot forum, jenius.

Lmao wow you guys are seriously touched. I wear a mask. I take precautions. Mainly because I care for the sick so I don't want to being them back anything. I simply said its not as bad as you make it seem. I used the numbers provided by science to make a point. You disagree with it, thats fine.

I DO NOT live in America, I have never even been there. I do not support donald trump and never have. Funny how you thought me quoting statistics meant I was a trump supporter.

No cheeseburgers arn't contagious, but the issues in america that result from consumption are a bigger draw on your economy AND have a much higher death toll than covid ever will, that is unless you shut it all down and shoot yourselves in the foot. Or start an uprising over forced encampment etc etc.

Well good luck to you. Always keep the math first. Less than a %1 mortality rate for the healthy. Good luck.

Five of diamonds said:

Lmao wow you guys are seriously touched. I wear a mask. I take precautions. Mainly because I care for the sick so I don't want to being them back anything. I simply said its not as bad as you make it seem. I used the numbers provided by science to make a point. You disagree with it, thats fine.

I DO NOT live in America, I have never even been there. I do not support donald trump and never have. Funny how you thought me quoting statistics meant I was a trump supporter.

No cheeseburgers arn't contagious, but the issues in america that result from consumption are a bigger draw on your economy AND have a much higher death toll than covid ever will, that is unless you shut it all down and shoot yourselves in the foot. Or start an uprising over forced encampment etc etc.

Well good luck to you. Always keep the math first. Less than a %1 mortality rate for the healthy. Good luck.

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The mortality rate will be much higher, the healthcare systems are overwhelmed and rates could go a lot higher. What about the maimed as in my response to you above that showed that grim statistics? You tried to minimise the public health threat, I demonstrated to you that you were wrong, dead wrong. You insulted the intelligence of everybody here, except yourself.

Cheeseburgers aren’t contagious but

Imagine being so dumb that you actually type that

DIY-HP-LED said:

The mortality rate will be much higher, the healthcare systems are overwhelmed and rates could go a lot higher. What about the maimed as in my response to you above the showed that grim statistics? You tried to minimise the public health threat, I demonstrated to you that you were wrong, dead wrong. You insulted the intelligence of everybody here, except yourself.

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You are laughable. You insult the intelligence of everyone that can do basic math. You also claim to value life out one side of your mouth, then cheer for the imprisonment/the removal of freedom of anyone who disagrees with you. You sir are a champion of morality. I bow to your superior ability to perceive right and wrong.

UncleBuck said:

Imagine being so dumb that you actually type that

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Almost everything you say on here is akin to rancid shit spewing from the ass of a dying goat. Anyone who views you as an intelligent person might as well be labeled as lobotomized. Turn everything into anti trump, label me as a supporter, call me privileged and a racist and a moron but don't agrue any of the statistics i gave. Oh wait, did I just make your next 5 moves for you? Good luck with that brother.

Everything I said about statistical numbers was fact. Simple math. Your saying the predictions say its gonna get worse? Maybe so but thats not proof, or fact. Thats an opinion and its not shared by all who have high credentials, almost nothing in science is universally agreed upon. I base my opinions on facts and if that makes me a moron, then so be it.

Five of diamonds said:

Everything I said about statistical numbers was fact. Simple math. Your saying the predictions say its gonna get worse? Maybe so but thats not proof, or fact. Thats an opinion and its not shared by all who have high credentials, almost nothing in science is universally agreed upon. I base my opinions on facts and if that makes me a moron, then so be it.

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Ever hear of a branch of science called epidemiology numbnuts? Who the fuck are you to argue with public health experts and offer a false narrative?
What about all the maimed and injured? The mortality rate of .5% is the overall mortality rate under optimum care conditions with excellent treatment, that won't happen in America because of criminal negligence on the part of certain elected officials.

Get covid and report back to us on the results, tell us how easy a time you had, first hand reports are welcome, though credibility might be an issue and of course there's a higher than 1% chance you will croak since you are 40 years old, even in good health.

Five of diamonds said:

You are laughable. You insult the intelligence of everyone that can do basic math. You also claim to value life out one side of your mouth, then cheer for the imprisonment/the removal of freedom of anyone who disagrees with you. You sir are a champion or morality. I bow to your superior ability to perceive right and wrong.

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You are not living in America, where do you live? If you are going to try and convince Americans there is no real danger. Where are you from, let us see how your country did with covid.

well we are watching these diagrams from day 1 and when you see the constant & gradual, even sometimes exponential RISE how can you post this:

Five of diamonds said:

Everything I said about statistical numbers was fact. Simple math. Your saying the predictions say its gonna get worse? Maybe so but thats not proof, or fact. Thats an opinion and its not shared by all who have high credentials, almost nothing in science is universally agreed upon. I base my opinions on facts and if that makes me a moron, then so be it.

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these diagrams are done in order TO ANTICIPATE/ PREDICT the near future.

Five of diamonds said:

Lmao wow you guys are seriously touched. I wear a mask. I take precautions. Mainly because I care for the sick so I don't want to being them back anything. I simply said its not as bad as you make it seem. I used the numbers provided by science to make a point. You disagree with it, thats fine.

I DO NOT live in America, I have never even been there. I do not support donald trump and never have. Funny how you thought me quoting statistics meant I was a trump supporter.

No cheeseburgers arn't contagious, but the issues in america that result from consumption are a bigger draw on your economy AND have a much higher death toll than covid ever will, that is unless you shut it all down and shoot yourselves in the foot. Or start an uprising over forced encampment etc etc.

Well good luck to you. Always keep the math first. Less than a %1 mortality rate for the healthy. Good luck.

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I missed the convo, but that last sentence....?! Now we are basing mortality rate based on who's healthy? Correct me if I'm wrong, because what a concept. How does one even begin to debate these types of thoughts? People who think like that are everything thats wrong with this world. You "care" for the sick, but you consider them expendable when debating mortality rate. Nice to know.

Five of diamonds said:

So its taken 6 months to infect roughly 1.4 or 1.5 % of the American population. 4.4 million out of 328 million. Death rate of the infected is 3.5%, for perspective thats about 0.05% of your total population. Around 80% of those infected have mild symptoms and a large number are completely asymptomatic. 1.5% of you are sick. Out of those only 3.5% are dead and 80% of those infected have barley any symptoms at all. And you think is worth destroying your economy over? In comparison, how many ppl die of consumption based illnesses in the states each year? A LOT more than that but no one gave a fuck then. And you think vaccines will work? Obviously not many ppl in your country are taking precautions. To me that means they do not care or are not afraid. So why do you expect them to line up for vaccines? I am not saying they don't work, I am saying it seems clear to me that most ppl dont care. Even where I am from i would say about 5% are wearing masks most ppl really don't seem to give a shit. Most people DONT CARE. stop hoping that your leaders shoot your economy in the head anymore than has already been done.

80% asymptomatic or extremely mild symptoms. Its not that fucking scary.

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False in many ways but the most important falsehood is the false choice between controlling the epidemic OR healthy economy. Your Bayesian analysis should change that from an or statement to an and statement. It's not a choice. Cannot have a vibrant economy unless the virus is properly managed, which other countries are doing. Do you think the US is technologically inferior to South Korea or Denmark? They are managing the epidemic and able to open up their economies in order to prosper. Why can't the US? There is no technical reason why so it's dumbasses like you that explain why.

Most of the statistics you cite are either known to be wrong or just guesses because we don't really know. On NPR last week one analyst put the number that have been infected and recovered in the US at 9%. Because testing at the outset was muffed by the Trump administration and then later on, given improper funding and support, the numbers you cite are known to be wrong. For example many more people died due to the virus and weren't counted. We really don't know what the fatality rate is. From other countries, the fatality rate is between 1% to as high as 4%. Cannot directly use US test data to do the same analysis.

We do know that this virus is very contagious compared to the flu. We do know that people are infectious days before they come down with symptoms. We do know that some people are asymtomatic while infectious. So, masks really are necessary. You pose a circular argument when you say we should stop insisting that people wear masks because you don't see a lot of people wearing masks. That's a really dumb statement.

We had another fool person who had been respected in this forum who tried to use back of the envelope calculations to argue we should just go back to work. He was wrong too. He doesn't hang around here any more and I regret that. But the lockdown worked and Trump's administration throttled the ability of our very good medical experts and public health authorities to direct resources into the correct measures.

Five of diamonds said:

Everything I said about statistical numbers was fact. Simple math. Your saying the predictions say its gonna get worse? Maybe so but thats not proof, or fact. Thats an opinion and its not shared by all who have high credentials, almost nothing in science is universally agreed upon. I base my opinions on facts and if that makes me a moron, then so be it.

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I just caught on to the fishing lure avatar.

Cute.

Five of diamonds said:

You are laughable. You insult the intelligence of everyone that can do basic math. You also claim to value life out one side of your mouth, then cheer for the imprisonment/the removal of freedom of anyone who disagrees with you. You sir are a champion or morality. I bow to your superior ability to perceive right and wrong.

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I can do basic math. What are we calculating here besides LIVES.

Epidemiologists grade how Canada, the U.S., and the world have fared in their pandemic responses

Five of diamonds said:

You sir are a champion or morality. I bow to your superior ability to perceive right and wrong.

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You appear to be either immoral or amoral.

Five of diamonds said:

Everything I said about statistical numbers was fact. Simple math. Your saying the predictions say its gonna get worse? Maybe so but thats not proof, or fact. Thats an opinion and its not shared by all who have high credentials, almost nothing in science is universally agreed upon. I base my opinions on facts and if that makes me a moron, then so be it.

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Predictions? Are you kidding me? Come to my city, there is no open hospital beds as of days ago, and they are now turning people away from area hospitals. As in - not accepting. This is going to effect many more than just high - risk people, not that that even matters because everyone mattters healthy or not, but go on with all that.. Healthy people will die, without covid. Don't get in a car wreck!

DIY-HP-LED said:

You appear to be either immoral or amoral.

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Look at his avatar. He's saying up front that he's trolling. At least that's one interpretation.

Five of diamonds said:

So its taken 6 months to infect roughly 1.4 or 1.5 % of the American population. 4.4 million out of 328 million. Death rate of the infected is 3.5%, for perspective thats about 0.05% of your total population. Around 80% of those infected have mild symptoms and a large number are completely asymptomatic. 1.5% of you are sick. Out of those only 3.5% are dead and 80% of those infected have barley any symptoms at all. And you think is worth destroying your economy over? In comparison, how many ppl die of consumption based illnesses in the states each year? A LOT more than that but no one gave a fuck then. And you think vaccines will work? Obviously not many ppl in your country are taking precautions. To me that means they do not care or are not afraid. So why do you expect them to line up for vaccines? I am not saying they don't work, I am saying it seems clear to me that most ppl dont care. Even where I am from i would say about 5% are wearing masks most ppl really don't seem to give a shit. Most people DONT CARE. stop hoping that your leaders shoot your economy in the head anymore than has already been done.

80% asymptomatic or extremely mild symptoms. Its not that fucking scary.

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Unbelievable. Smfh. Seriously? You're ideology and your numbers are fucked. Where are you from? It's going to take me a few minutes but yeah..let's talk numbers. And politics.