Pandemic 2020

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DIY-HP-LED

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That shits in Canada too by now.Welcome to Canada!!!
Yep and in some provinces they are going with a single shot and not reserving the second one, but hoping for new supplies. I think this new variant might cause an adjustment in plans, a 70% increase in transmission has very serious implications. The article I posted makes it clear that hospitals will be overwhelmed quickly. "If the fatality rate increased by 50 percent, that would lead to 193 deaths. In contrast, a 50 percent increase in transmissibility would lead to a whopping 978 deaths in just one month". That's over 4 times as many deaths and over 4 times the load on hospitals and hospitals in some places are at the breaking point, so are the staffs.

This new covid variant will go through the anti maskers like shit through a goose, there was a big rally of them in BC Canada on new year's eve. When it hits Okie you will be busy unless ya get out of Dodge after your first jab, I figure there will be plenty of single shot people running around in a month or two.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Did you get the jab yet? Or any word on when you will? Many places are going with the first inoculation and hoping the second one will come with new supplies. I think you are gonna see this strategy employed in some states too, the first round will offer protection, reduce the severity of illness and hospitalizations. The new more infectious variant may start driving decisions about this, the elderly, vulnerable and perhaps healthcare workers might get two rounds and everybody else waits for a booster shot.
No . I will find out more next week.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Yep and in some provinces they are going with a single shot and not reserving the second one, but hoping for new supplies. I think this new variant might cause an adjustment in plans, a 70% increase in transmission has very serious implications. The article I posted makes it clear that hospitals will be overwhelmed quickly. "If the fatality rate increased by 50 percent, that would lead to 193 deaths. In contrast, a 50 percent increase in transmissibility would lead to a whopping 978 deaths in just one month". That's over 4 times as many deaths and over 4 times the load on hospitals and hospitals in some places are at the breaking point, so are the staffs.

This new covid variant will go through the anti maskers like shit through a goose, there was a big rally of them in BC Canada on new year's eve. When it hits Okie you will be busy unless ya get out of Dodge after your first jab, I figure there will be plenty of single shot people running around in a month or two.
I ain’t in Okie any more and very happy that there are zero Canadian Geese here like inOK where I was . I was so sick of those fucking birds.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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No . I will find out more next week.
Here is what a single shot of the Pfizer vaccine will do, the Moderna one should be similar. As you can see one jab does a lot and if you do catch covid after a couple of weeks, it should be a mild or asymptomatic one. After 10 days you start getting some serious protection from a single shot.
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DIY-HP-LED

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I ain’t in Okie any more and very happy that there are zero Canadian Geese here like there where there. I was so sick of those fucking birds.
Lived in Winnipeg and Geese were an issue, nobody hunts them anymore, Dunno why they call them Canada geese they spend as much time in the States! We call them the Canadian air force and they are our secret weapon to attack America!

Back in NJ? Not CA I hope, from the frying pan into the fire!
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Here is what a single shot of the Pfizer vaccine will do, the Moderna one should be similar. As you can see one jab does a lot and if you do catch covid after a couple of weeks, it should be a mild or asymptomatic one. After 10 days you start getting some serious protection from a single shot.
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I spoke with a women from the health department about getting a shot and she told me it’s a shit show right now and the lines are long and people camping out over night and first come first serve. She told me they will hopefully start making appointments next week. If my new employer seems clueless I will keep pursuing it on my own time. Thanks for the information . I left Oklahoma before I was ever even offered a jab. I could have camped out overnight here but had know idea what the hell was going on until it was too late . I am hoping to escape contracting this virus by the skin of my teeth . I don’t know what I am stepping into at the new gig .
 
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PadawanWarrior

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Lived in Winnipeg and Geese were an issue, nobody hunts them anymore, Dunno why they call them Canada geese they spend as much time in the States! We call them the Canadian air force and they are our secret weapon to attack America!

Back in NJ? Not CA I hope, from the frying pan into the fire!
Too many anti gun people anymore, lol. We called them Honkers when I was in South Dakota. Click Click Boom.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Just eat what ya kill, that's sport, most people these days eat turkey. Killing for pleasure is always wrong.
Ya, I eat everything I kill except the woodpeckers that peck on the house sometimes. I don't believe in senseless killing. I actually feel bad for the animals when I kill them, but it's kinda better than living your life in a cage before you get a bolt driven into your skull.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Too many anti gun people anymore, lol. We called them Honkers when I was in South Dakota. Click Click Boom.
Hunting is dying and has been for decades, I have a buddy who was a forest ranger and used to give gun safety courses, required for a hunting license. He told be 30 years ago that every year there were fewer people applying. Most people these days are urban and have lost their connection to the land even in Canada. I grew up on the edge of a small town in a rural area and used to hunt with my dad and as a young man. We had guns at home and I trained with many types of small arms in the military. Until the 70's gun ownership rates in Canada and America were about the same, after that America went nuts and we started to regulate firearms. In Canada you need a FAC (Firearms Acquisition Certificate) to buy a gun or ammunition, a popular decision. Handguns are restricted and self defense is not a valid reason to own a hand gun, target practice is and so is collecting.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Hunting is dying and has been for decades, I have a buddy who was a forest ranger and used to give gun safety courses, required for a hunting license. He told be 30 years ago that every year there were fewer people applying. Most people these days are urban and have lost their connection to the land even in Canada. I grew up on the edge of a small town in a rural area and used to hunt with my dad and as a young man. We had guns at home and I trained with many types of small arms in the military. Until the 70's gun ownership rates in Canada and America were about the same, after that America went nuts and we started to regulate firearms. In Canada you need a FAC (Firearms Acquisition Certificate) to buy a gun or ammunition, a popular decision. Handguns are restricted and self defense is not a valid reason to own a hand gun, target practice is and so is collecting.
That's freaking crazy that Self Defense doesn't qualify as a reason to own a hand gun. And you can defend yourself against more than just humans with them. You guys gotta have grizzly bears around.

I can't stand the fact that just because some people are idiots, so we all have to suffer for their bullshit. If I do something stupid with my guns, put my ass in jail, but don't punish the whole fucking World.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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That's freaking crazy that Self Defense doesn't qualify as a reason to own a hand gun. And you can defend yourself against more than just humans with them. You guys gotta have grizzly bears around.

I can't stand the fact that just because some people are idiots, so we all have to suffer for their bullshit. If I do something stupid with my guns, put my ass in jail, but don't punish the whole fucking World.
The vast majority of Canadians support the law, self defense from humans, we pay police for that. You have to store your weapons and ammunition securely too and for hand guns you need permission to take it to the range and have to keep it in the trunk. America is the outlier in this matter all the other Anglo countries have similar laws on guns as do most other developed counties in the world. America is like a prison, everybody carries a shive, cause everybody else does. Guns impose high costs on society in general and add to social stress, if you get stopped by the cops you don`t get a gun shoved in your face with a freaked out cop behind it. Here is what gun ownership looks like in America, there might be almost 400 million guns in the US, but only a small fraction own most of them .

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DIY-HP-LED

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'Inexcusable': Mitt Romney Blasts Lack of Comprehensive Vaccination Plan (newsweek.com)

'Inexcusable': Mitt Romney Blasts Lack of Comprehensive Vaccination Plan

Utah Republican Senator Mitt Romney released a statement on Friday that calls for a more thorough and urgent plan to distribute COVID-19 vaccines, while also harshly rebuking the current rollout.

"That comprehensive vaccination plans have not been developed at the federal level and sent to the states as models is as incomprehensible as it is inexcusable," he said.

Romney's remarks come a few days after President-elect Joe Biden criticized the Trump administration's pace of the vaccine rollout and pledged to step it up when he assumes office.

Romney's statement opened with praise for the NIH, the FDA, and the pharmaceutical companies who all contributed to developing vaccines. He then voiced his displeasure in the government, saying "the vaccination process itself is falling behind."

"It was unrealistic to assume that the health care workers already overburdened with COVID care could take on a massive vaccination program," said the senator. "So too is the claim that CVS and Walgreens will save the day: they don't have excess personnel available to inoculate millions of Americans. Nor are they equipped to deal with the rare but serious reactions which may occur. Doctor offices are well-suited but the rate of patient throughput in doctor offices is predictably slow."

He admitted to not possessing medical experience, yet also said he knows when a current plan isn't working properly and when a better alternative must be developed—"particularly when hundreds of thousands of lives are at stake."

The senator and the 2012 Republican nominee for president also offered suggestions for a better distribution program. He proposed to first seek advice and information from people who have worked on other widespread vaccination programs.

Next, he said "every medical professional, retired or active, who is not currently engaged in the delivery of care" should be mobilized in the effort. Along with EMS professionals, he said this effort should include veterinarians, combat medics and corpsmen, medical students, first responders, and anyone else who could possibly be trained to vaccinate people.

He noted: "Congress has already appropriated funding for states so that these professionals can be fully compensated."

Romney also called on vaccination sites being set up—possibly in schools—in every state, as well as proposed a rough vaccination timetable. His statement read: "Schedule vaccinations according to a person's priority category and birthdate: e.g., people in group A with a January first birthday would be assigned a specific day to receive their vaccination."

He closed his statement by declaring that the plan currently in place "is woefully behind" and that without major changes "deadly delays may be compounded as broader and more complex populations are added." He said: "We are already behind; urgent action now can help us catch up."

Aside from Biden, the administration's pace of the rollout has also come under fire from health professionals such as Dr. Ashish Jha, who tweeted Monday: "So a lot of chatter happening on the slow vaccine roll out. Personally, I'm incredibly frustrated. Did we not know that vaccines were coming? Is vaccine administration a surprise?"

In response, Operation Warp Speed spokesman Michael Pratt said in a statement, as reported by CNBC: "Operation Warp Speed remains on track to have approximately 40 million doses of vaccine and allocate 20 million doses for first vaccinations by the end of December 2020, with distribution of the 20 million first doses spanning into the first week of January as states place orders for them."
 
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