Pole: what do you guys think of 50/50 soil and coco?
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getogrow
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Again , i may be wrong but i think the term "loam" describes the texture of the soil. not the soil itself. In other words it dont have to be loamy to be called soil. clay is soil too....
getogrow
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Nobody said it was?
My lawn is clay ish soil.
CTGrown203
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Peat is still soilless
HaroldRocks
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Peat and RePeat were on a boat....
getogrow
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Were waaay past that sir. Everything without soil is soiless. Thats kinda obvious.
You will have to read if you want to contribute.
PJ Diaz
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I don't think you actually know what soil is.Your hard headed like me. Im openly debating and openly admiting that i do not know it all but since you do , i should step back.
I made it very clear that said soil was stripped of nutes both macro and secondary and micro....zero , nada. That makes soil inert .......by the way , whats the definition of inert again ?
The difference is , im over here learning while you sit atop a throne.
At this point you are literally saying if i add N to coco then its not inert anymore. You guys have done cited it being loaded with marcos and micros. I dont see how your calling that inert but hey , im just a soil guy , im not up to you hydro guys yet.
Here's a Wikipedia definition for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soil
If that one's too tricky, try this: https://www.soils4kids.org/about
If you fee like really "getting into the weeds" on it, I'd suggest you read the College textbook my professor required 20-some years ago: https://www.amazon.com/Soil-Science-Management-Edward-Plaster/dp/0840024320
The commonality you will see in all of these references is that soil consists of rock mineral particulates, water, air, organic matter, and micro organisms. Again, if you strip soil of it's organic matter it is no longer soil. As I told you before it becomes sand, silt, clay, or a combination of the three, but without organic matter it is certainly not soil.
By the way, I doubt that you grow in soil (unless you are an outdoor grower), more likely you grow in a potting mix, which is very much akin to actual soil in terms of plant growth habits..
PJ Diaz
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Loam is a soil that has even mixtures of sand, silt, and clay particulates, plus organic matter. Loam soils are idea because they have both excellent drainage, and also great nutrient holding capabilities.
PJ Diaz
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Yep, even "potting soil" is soilless most of the time.
getogrow
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Thats EXACTLY what i just said.... geez. is it really that hard to agree with the truth ?
most potting soil is soiless.... that has nothing to do with the topic.
Im obviously way past you on soil knowledge so you do not understand any of what im trying to say.
Coco is not inert by no means unless you wash and sterlize it....which some companies do.
Have you ever even read the label on your block of coco or are you just still referencing RIU members having success with it as a hydro medium.?
I learned ALL this info from debating with you guys! thank you very much for your time!
PJ Diaz
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You mad bro? LMFAOThats EXACTLY what i just said.... geez. is it really that hard to agree with the truth ?
most potting soil is soiless.... that has nothing to do with the topic.
Im obviously way past you on soil knowledge so you do not understand any of what im trying to say.
Coco is not inert by no means unless you wash and sterlize it....which some companies do.
Have you ever even read the label on your block of coco or are you just still referencing RIU members having success with it as a hydro medium.?
I learned ALL this info from debating with you guys! thank you very much for your time!
Yeah, I clarified and added substance to your statement about loam. Sorry about that bro, don't take it too hard. FFS LOL
Yeah I reuse my coco over and over. Why buy new when you don't have to?
HaroldRocks
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i know right? It seemed like their was an agreement somewhere in those last few posts
you already learned when you figured out that you cant grow plants in plain coco or peat and plain water - that's really all you need to know
the rest of what youz guyz are talking about are definitions of words
so i guess thats what you're learning now? 
im a re-user of coco too - surprising how many ppl don't re-use
you already learned when you figured out that you cant grow plants in plain coco or peat and plain water - that's really all you need to know
the rest of what youz guyz are talking about are definitions of words
so i guess thats what you're learning now? im a re-user of coco too - surprising how many ppl don't re-use
getogrow
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is this where im supposed to say "you cant reuse coco" ?
just stay close mined and ill keep learning....maybe one day , far away , ill be able to sit on that throne with ya
HaroldRocks
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no it's "you can't overwater coco"is this where im supposed to say "you cant reuse coco" ?
just stay close mined and ill keep learning....maybe one day , far away , ill be able to sit on that throne with ya
HaroldRocks
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you guys crack me up - i like you both believe it or not
getogrow
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i get a bit defensive sometimes , like most , but for the most part i try to stay on folks good side. Ive seen the guy im debating all over the forums , very bright dude is why im still here....you guys crack me up - i like you both believe it or not
Either way none of its a big deal and i prolly should of shut my mouth a few pages back. Fuckin way she goes boys.
soil
bernie344
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Thats it Rayi get a bit defensive sometimes , like most , but for the most part i try to stay on folks good side. Ive seen the guy im debating all over the forums , very bright dude is why im still here....
Either way none of its a big deal and i prolly should of shut my mouth a few pages back. Fuckin way she goes boys.
soil
Lastmanstandin31
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Fuck, you too?
HaroldRocks
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all good - you're just giving a point of view that's not by the book - nothing wrong with that...i get a bit defensive sometimes , like most , but for the most part i try to stay on folks good side. Ive seen the guy im debating all over the forums , very bright dude is why im still here....
Either way none of its a big deal and i prolly should of shut my mouth a few pages back. Fuckin way she goes boys.
soil
so why do you have that xtsho quote in your sig?