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Alienwidow

Alienwidow

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thump easy said:
can we see a battle?? i want a battle i want in too lolz for realz i love beef!!!!!!!!!
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Dont we all. Im not here to battle. I have to go work my skanks over for a bit. I just saw thatfirst post and went...wtf!? This guy is just bashing on a great bunch of people that do really good work. I mean check around. Pineapple fields is killing it in the reviews, even on riu.
 
GUN1

GUN1

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Actually without inbreeding you are losing wanted genetics. some phenotypes will not be seen in f1s. You have to inbreed the line to lock in the wanted phenotypes and if they are recessive you will not see them till filial 2 eg white widow, williams wonder. If you do not inbreed lines with recessive mutations and breed f1 to f1 you will not see the recesive genetics in phenotype at all and will eventually breed them out. recessive genetics can do many things such as increase trichome production and size, increase yeild, produce certain aromas etc. it can also produce unwanted phenotypes but that is what selective breeding is about. locking in the wanted genetics and removing the unwanted. A stable f1 line means the breeder has inbred the line to lock in and consistently produce phenotypes in two seperate lines and has bred them to form an f1, which will hold these genes hidden inside them till f2 (The f1s are heterozygous for the wanted genetics). Thats why you see in some of bodhis seed descriptions he writes " f2ing this line will produce a treasure chest of genetics" because so many recessive genes have been stacked when they show in f2 it is only 1 in 4 seed will show the wanted phenotype and when there are 2 or 3 or more recessive phenotypes they will combine randomly throwing a multitude of different phenotypic expressions.
 
thump easy

thump easy

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let me have a cut and ill tell you the truth!!!!!!! can i see it??? and i have it?? ill pay for it.. if it is good ill stock it if it sucks ill toss it in the trash! so were can i grab a cut or beans?? im fare even with the nme.!!!!!
 
GUN1

GUN1

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pollen chuckers are people who havent put the time in to inbreed their lines to lock in genetics and breed f1 to f1 producing possible heterozygotes which make it very hard to reproduce the expressions you want. if it is bred properly a strain should be taken to f3 at the minimum and f4 seeds tested to make sure the line is stable and producing the desired phenotype.
 
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althor

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Positivity said:
There's no shortage of regular growers with good, stable genetics.

I'm no "professional" breeder but I have stable varietys from careful seed selection that is more than satisfactory. I've seen more bunk come from professionals that can't even guarantee fresh seeds for a hundred bucks.

I like the ability to try varieties that normally would be unattainable.

What I don't like is strains being offered only fem. I avoid those types completely normally.

Wasn't greenhouse one of the originators of that with their cheese, bubba, etc. You can have it but sorry you'll never be able to breed it. No thank you.

It could be a great topic. Start a new thread and introduce it correctly.

:peace:
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You know what the difference in a fem fem and a reg fem? Nothing at all, just myths people spread.
I always find it curious those that bash on fems, never grow fems so they wouldnt know.
 
Positivity

Positivity

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althor said:
You know what the difference in a fem fem and a reg fem? Nothing at all, just myths people spread.
I always find it curious those that bash on fems, never grow fems so they wouldnt know.
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I like feminized seeds too...:p. Never said i didn't

But...if theres no regulars offered to play with the genetics i bought than no thank you.

Imagine if everything was fem...with sterile pollen if forced to herm (the next step)...growers lose the ability to breed and produce their own seed

Duck fat....

Regulars herming the most...thats a new one to me. Been growing thirty years now and i have yet to grow a herm from regulars. Stop buying shitty seeds
 
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OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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Positivity said:
I like feminized seeds too...:p. Never said i didn't

But...if theres no regulars offered to play with the genetics i bought than no thank you.

Imagine if everything was fem...with sterile pollen if forced to herm (the next step)...growers lose the ability to breed and produce their own seed

Duck fat....

Regulars herming the most...thats a new one to me. Been growing thirty years now and i have yet to grow a herm from regulars. Stop buying shitty seeds
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You can breed with fems. You do need to induce hermaphrodism to do it with all subjects. But if you have enough seeds males do show up. There's no real difference one way or the other. If you're growing for females you're only interested in X anyway and X from both male and female parents is there in a feminized cross.

That said a lot of feminization practices are awful, so I wouldn't blame you for being careful in what you choose to breed.
 
D_Urbmon

D_Urbmon

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OGEvilgenius said:
You can breed with fems. You do need to induce hermaphrodism to do it with all subjects. But if you have enough seeds males do show up. There's no real difference one way or the other. If you're growing for females you're only interested in X anyway and X from both male and female parents is there in a feminized cross.

That said a lot of feminization practices are awful, so I wouldn't blame you for being careful in what you choose to breed.
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What happens if you take a fem, self it, take the s1 and self that, and so on and so forth? Same plant on the 8th or 10th generation?
 
GUN1

GUN1

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Most will look like the mother but at that level of inbreeding you will start to get new genetic mutations appear. They could be beneficial or detrimental.
 
hydroMD

hydroMD

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abe supercro said:
'buying' was a poor choice of words, it's ok to admit it man. ;-) It implies puppymill.


hybrid vigor -
is an attribute from slamming two genetics together. it certainly doesn't cover much of the criteria a cannabis breeder would be after. to use this as a hallmark of reasoning for why poly-hybrids are making cannabis better is kinda silly.
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Except thats not true at all. Buying implies nothing but exchanging currency for an object.
 
hydroMD

hydroMD

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GUN1 said:
Most will look like the mother but at that level of inbreeding you will start to get new genetic mutations appear. They could be beneficial or detrimental.
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10 generations of inbreeding is probably just gonna give you a bunch of finicky seeds if its the same everytime
 
abe supercro

abe supercro

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hydroMD said:
Except thats not true at all. Buying implies nothing but exchanging currency for an object.
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Guess I've made some assumptions, I can be finicky like that. you clearly know your stuff, afterall you're a dr.! lol

purchasing (pet store/breeder) vs adopting (rescue or similar)

Adopting, in no way means 'bought'. pita dr.
 
hydroMD

hydroMD

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abe supercro said:
Guess I've made some assumptions, I can be finicky like that. you clearly know your stuff, afterall you're a dr.! lol

purchasing (pet store) vs adopting (rescue or the like)

Adopting, in no way means 'bought'. pita dr.
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Even if your buying your dog for a good cause, a transaction still takes place for said dog... thus why I phrased it as "bought". Pretty simple.

You'll get it someday. Dont even have to be a doctor.

Until then, have fun making assumptions and picking apart peoples wording over any nuances you see.
 
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