Proof of the existence of an intelligent Creator and what His purpose of mankind is

tinyTURTLE

Well-Known Member
i gave it a google

The probability of an average protein molecule made up of 500 amino acids being arranged in the correct quantity and sequence in addition to the probability of all of the amino acids it contains being only left-handed and being combined with only peptide bonds is "1" over 10950. We can write this number which is formed by putting 950 zeros next to 1 as follows:



10950 =
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There are 3 basic conditions for the formation of a useful protein:​

First condition: that all the amino acids in the protein chain are of the right type and in the right sequence
Second condition: that all the amino acids in the chain are left-handed
Third condition: that all of these amino acids are united between them by forming a chemical bond called "peptide bond".
In order for a protein to be formed by chance, all three basic conditions must exist simultaneously. The probability of the formation of a protein by chance is equal to the multiplication of the probabilities of the realisation of each of these conditions.
For instance, for an average molecule comprising of 500 amino acids:
1. The probability of the amino acids being in the right sequence:
There are 20 types of amino acids used in the composition of proteins. According to this: -The probability of each amino acid being chosen correctly among these 20 types= 1/20-The probability of all of those 500 amino acids being chosen correctly= 1/20500= 1/10650 = 1 chance in 10650


2. The probability of the amino acids being left-handed: -The probability of only one amino acid being left-handed= 1/2-The probability of all of those 500 amino acids being left-handed at the same time= 1/2500 = 1/10150= 1 chance in 10150
3. The probability of the amino acids being combined with a "peptide bond":





Amino acids can combine with each other with different kinds of chemical bonds. In order for a useful protein to be formed, all the amino acids in the chain must have been combined with a special chemical bond called a "peptide bond". It is calculated that the probability of the amino acids being combined not with another chemical bond but by a peptide bond is 50%. In relation to this:
-The probability of two amino acids being combined with a "peptide bond"= 1/2-The probability of 500 amino acids all combining with peptide bonds= 1/2499 = 1/10150 = 1 chance in 10150​


TOTAL PROBABILITY= 1/10650 X 1/10150 X 1/10150 = 10950= 1 chance in 10950





this right?
one in eleven thousand is pretty easy odds.
especialy if you give it a few million years to happen. in fact 1 in 10950 predicts that it will happen 100 times in a one million year period. nice math, though. even though you are essentialy arguing against yourself.

also, i am not factoring that you probaly meant to use commas, not periods in that ridiculous number.
 

krustofskie

Well-Known Member
Fish, your only giving odds for one group of the building blocks to form a protein. How many individual amino acids were there at the start, and I mean individuals not types. Then odds start to get smaller and smaller the more individuals that are involved.

And as I said before, you cant work out the time it would take when your talking chance, cos there is a chance it happend immediatley, unlikely yes but possible.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
The Bible says, the Bible says...... no matter how many times they are shown the non-logic of their statements, it always reverts back to.... the Bible says.

Lawdy.....

Quoting Jewish verse is no way to be a Christian.
 

fish601

Active Member
The Bible says, the Bible says...... no matter how many times they are shown the non-logic of their statements, it always reverts back to.... the Bible says.

Lawdy.....

Quoting Jewish verse is no way to be a Christian.

ok then no more science says :dunce:

you really dont understand what the bible teaches about jewish and christian
even tho you are a jew
your lost in your own little world
 

CrackerJax

New Member
One is proven, one is not. Like I said way way back... the two cannot be compared.

You obviously did not read the article I posted.
 

zorkan

Active Member
"Approximately 15 billion years ago, life began..."
"No, it was more like 7 billion years ago..."
"Uh, well, the earth probably began about..."
"The strata may show..."
"Well, we evolutionists don't exactly agree about when, why or how the world began, but...


evolution is a fact and you are unscientific if you don't believe it?"




It is interesting to me how scientist have tricked everyone into believing in evolution. Evolution is not:
  • repeatable,
  • testable; or,
  • observable.
In other words, it doesn't even qualify as real science. Mmmm...I don't think You'll ever get me to believe a monkey is my uncle, a rat is my cousin, and that lice are my near kinsmen. Unless it's proven, as of now it's not!
 

Stoney McFried

Well-Known Member
Yet another spam posting of a copy and paste without crediting the source.Proof that religion doesn't encourage original thought.http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/evolfact.htm
"Approximately 15 billion years ago, life began..."
"No, it was more like 7 billion years ago..."
"Uh, well, the earth probably began about..."
"The strata may show..."
"Well, we evolutionists don't exactly agree about when, why or how the world began, but...


evolution is a fact and you are unscientific if you don't believe it?"




It is interesting to me how scientist have tricked everyone into believing in evolution. Evolution is not:
  • repeatable,
  • testable; or,
  • observable.
In other words, it doesn't even qualify as real science. Mmmm...I don't think You'll ever get me to believe a monkey is my uncle, a rat is my cousin, and that lice are my near kinsmen. Unless it's proven, as of now it's not!
 

Nocturn3

Well-Known Member
Zorkan, if you are that confident in your argument, stop spamming it over loads of threads, post it in one place, and let us address it. You're spoiling everyone's enjoyment of this forum with your childish shit.


Proof that religion doesn't encourage original thought.
Haha, you got that one right lol. :lol:
 

Nocturn3

Well-Known Member
The funy thing is, none of those quotes are actually attributed to anybody. How do we know who made those claims, and whether they had any business doing so.

I'm guessing they were made up by the person who created the website you copy>pasted it from. Prove me wrong, and we can discuss them individually, along with the subject of quote mining.

They don't even have any context, and i suspect the "7 billion years" one was simply pulled out of someone's ass, and not based on what any respected scientist has said.
 

Nocturn3

Well-Known Member
That's it, put your (virtual) fingers in your ears and carry on spamming your shit. You're really helping your message to be taken seriously. :dunce:
 

Brazko

Well-Known Member
:lol:, It was pretty funny @ first, then it Lost it's Humor :roll:, NOw it's LIke :sleep:..

I Still believe i'ts Hilarious :lol: but :sleep:.....

Go ahead and Speak on It, don't hide...Oui know Ur not Krazee :lol: ;-)
 

Brazko

Well-Known Member
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"Approximately 15 billion years ago, life began..."
"No, it was more like 7 billion years ago..."
"Uh, well, the earth probably began about..."
"The strata may show..."
"Well, we evolutionists don't exactly agree about when, why or how the world began, but...


evolution is a fact and you are unscientific if you don't believe it?"







It is interesting to me how scientist have tricked everyone into believing in evolution. Evolution is not:
  • repeatable,
  • testable; or,
  • observable.
In other words, it doesn't even qualify as real science. Mmmm...I don't think You'll ever get me to believe a monkey is my uncle, a rat is my cousin, and that lice are my near kinsmen. Unless it's proven, as of now it's not!
:lol:, I'm not Laughing @ You, I'm Laughing Wit Cha' :lol:
 
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