Proof of the existence of an intelligent Creator and what His purpose of mankind is

You cannot begin to talk about science and then start out with... It depends on what you mean.....

Science has no ambiguities that aren't becoming clearer.....

Religion moves in the opposite way as Science progresses.

Hence the desperation of the religious, as they see it all slipping away.

They don't want to wake up to reality.... they want the fairy tale.

I didn't have to start with it depends, as it is conclusively the same point in any two dicrepancies I made...

But I used depend b/c there is primary only two ways 2 speak about the nature of Science..
Less I Am Wrong, Explain

Everything else is your Opinion, I don't see only that, although I recognize it to be a partial truth/ lie of what the wHole Truth is...

The nature of science is the application of true evidence which is then constantly checked and rechecked for flaws.

Again, it is impossible to compare religion and science. they are not equals.... religion is far inferior and uneducated.

If it is True, Y recheck for flaws, that are in Fact Found, No Truth to begin There.....

Again, your Opinion.. Personal & Pointless

CrackerJax said:

You again have it completely backwards.

Atheism isn't easy..... it's a very hard way to live. There is little comfort in NOT having an afterlife. It takes a true mental discipline to stay in a logical and objective mode.

Religion is the EASY way out.

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My sentiments exactly.

If only we hadn't taken from the "tree of knowledge" we could all still be blissfully ignorant.

Sure Shot said:

My sentiments exactly.

If only we hadn't taken from the "tree of knowledge" we could all still be blissfully ignorant.

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+rep 4 the link and Mnemonic - L.O.W. T.H.C. starts with an imbalance in one of these;
Light Oxygen Water Temperature Humidity Co2 My Youtube grows

What you Say about "Trees of Knowledge?" Aay, Okay!!

Brazko said:

If it is True, Y recheck for flaws, that are in Fact Found, No Truth to begin There.....

Again, your Opinion.. Personal & Pointless

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Y recheck for flaws? I understand your confusion. I guess religious folks aren't in the habit of checking for flaws.

We check and recheck so we can fine tune the information to the highest degree of accuracy possible. Outstanding and insightful ideas rarely enter into any mainstream instantly. Most great ideas are developed over time.

Of course making up a story like the Bible is much easier. Even so, it is full of errors and half truths. You can bet a dollar that no scientific methodologies or true verification ever took place in the writing of the Bible.

CrackerJax said:

Of course making up a story like the Bible is much easier. Even so, it is full of errors and half truths.

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there are alot of alleged errors in the bible i have researched many of them the ones i researched i found no errors.

If you have time would you tell me a few that is infact an error? I can't research all of but i would like a list of the top five.

maybe add a few half truths?

CrackerJax said:

Y recheck for flaws? I understand your confusion. I guess religious folks aren't in the habit of checking for flaws.

We check and recheck so we can fine tune the information to the highest degree of accuracy possible. Outstanding and insightful ideas rarely enter into any mainstream instantly. Most great ideas are developed over time.

Of course making up a story like the Bible is much easier. Even so, it is full of errors and half truths. You can bet a dollar that no scientific methodologies or true verification ever took place in the writing of the Bible.

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Cracker, You obviously are confused.. You stated, Science is of True Evidence.. If you have rechecked it & found faults, It wasn't True... You know reasoning/Truth will prevail because you observe from previous trial and ErroR, until finally the Truth is Formulated

Science is a Baby Boomer compared to the Bible, The Bible for what ever purpose it Is Taken For, Was not Put together in, let's say a few hundreds of years, It is a Work that Spans a few thousands of Years, and With That Said, Religion/Mystical Practice Spans back even Further...

Yes, Check / RecheK is the Motto.. Doesn't Matter if it's Science or Religion, The tuth Does not Skim the Surface, that is why no answers lie there, Its the Checking / Rechecking, Searching Deeper lies the Truth..

When I speak of unjust comparison or a being of unequality, It is because You cannot compare a Skimmed Lie with a Deeper Truth..

ie. the Lucy Ape 2 Man pic that's been floating around, A Skimmed Lie not the Whole Truth...

Stop confusing Scientific Fact/ Means with being part of Your Personal Opinion..

It's your Personal Opinion b/c you Choose to compare invalidated Skimmed Lies, with the validating method of Probing Deeper, that is Clearly a Choice of Recogntion & limited Understanding...

and for a Person who promotes IntellectuaLlism, this Clearly does not demostrate it...

What's the Saying? Science/Religion is Like Apples and Oranges, Yes... But they are Both Fruit and Satisfy Hunger...Yes, The Whole Truth

No, I said science only CONSIDERS evidence and follows what keeps coming back as consistent and verifiable.

Religion does not.

Ur the one who is confused. You try to use science as either a comparable system to view the world as religion, or that science can somehow prove G*D.

Both assumptions are incorrect and logically flawed.

Brazko said:

Consequently, Religion has brought us Proof of everything we Know Today, even Science, let me share...

Ask A Scientist​

"Okay, it all depends on what you mean
by "science." If you mean simply being inquisitive and testing
the world around you to find out what you can and can't do, then
"science" originated with the emergence of the first intelligent
life forms on the planet. Through trial and error, these creatures
lived their lives from day to day, learning what they needed to
survive and gaining new knowledge every day from new things
they tried to do (or get away with), often passing on this
information to others of their kind in one way or another."


This Was not a Religion, but a Belief System, a.k.a Religion


"If, however, you mean the modern scientific method, that of
observing natural phenomena, formulating a hypothesis about
it, testing that hypothesis with experiments, collecting data,
and then theorizing about the phenomena based of the information
you've gathered and the tests you've conducted, then I'd have
to say that true science originated separately with the Greeks
and the Chinese -- both these cultures used what we now know
as the scientific method to discover new ways of doing things,
and how the world around them actually worked."

Both of these Cultures were submerged and based in Mythology, Mysticism, Religion, Gods/gods, & Beliefs... Science was just the documentation of their efforts..

I remain confused on why people use the earth flat, sun rotated around earth, blah, blah, as a fault of REligion....There was no separation of Church/State/Religion/Science/Politics, It was 1 big Conglomerate (Elite Class), with each bearing Power Headed differently by each depending on time, place, & era, and pretty much No different then it is today, however unnoticeable and to our disbelief

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This Is The Science I aM Familiar With, it has nothing to Do with, Being the Truth, however, it Finds the tRuth....

CrackerJax said:

The nature of science is the application of true evidence which is then constantly checked and rechecked for flaws.

Again, it is impossible to compare religion and science. they are not equals.... religion is far inferior and uneducated.

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, I Concede, You're R, I'M confuZed ,

The Bible is a guidebook for primitive man... pre science man.

The two are not compatible. If they were, you wouldn't see all of the religious running around trying to find some room for their beliefs at the Inn of science. If that doesn't work, then trying to disprove evolution to try an prove a myth G*D (which isn't possible).

Both are futile and gradually society is moving away from it.

Hence all the kicking and screaming from the "mythers".

CrackerJax said:

The Bible is a guidebook for primitive man... pre science man.

The two are not compatible. If they were, you wouldn't see all of the religious running around trying to find some room for their beliefs at the Inn of science. If that doesn't work, then trying to disprove evolution to try an prove a myth G*D (which isn't possible).

Both are futile and gradually society is moving away from it.

Hence all the kicking and screaming from the "mythers".

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Ok fish, I'mean Cracker...I Concede , no Pun intended....Fish

It's a hollow victory. In the end U must follow ur own path.

Just keep the noise down, some of us are trying to think.....

CrackerJax said:

The Bible is a guidebook for primitive man... pre science man.

The two are not compatible. If they were, you wouldn't see all of the religious running around trying to find some room for their beliefs at the Inn of science. If that doesn't work, then trying to disprove evolution to try an prove a myth G*D (which isn't possible).

Both are futile and gradually society is moving away from it.

Hence all the kicking and screaming from the "mythers".

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science is young it will find that the bible is truth

The Bible keeps falling farther and farther into the superstition realm with each passing year.

The Bible will never catch up. The race is already been decided.

It wasn't even close......

fish601 said:

science is young it will find that the bible is truth

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ROFLMAO>>>>>>>>>>>>>

CrackerJax said:

It's a hollow victory. In the end U must follow ur own path.

Just keep the noise down, some of us are trying to think.....

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Is that what you Call it, thinking , It's no Victory, Win or Loss, Failure to Comprehend is simply that. You win because you offered nothing in return except for Ignorance.. It's Rabid and Widespread everywhere.. You are supposed to prove that an Ape transformed into Man, like I should have to Prove that God went SHazaAM.. No, it's a False Assessment, and to Argue it One way or the Other is illogical and Mind numbing. Failure to Comprehend is Simply That.. but continue with that thought process, it is Your path,

I comprehend religion. I was raised on it. I've read the Bible. A few times all the way through.... have you? I took Theology as a minor at the University level.... have you?

I comprehend it alright. It's a STORY.... nothing more. Wake up and live in the real world. It takes mental discipline, but is highly rewarding to be truly free of myth.