Proof of the existence of an intelligent Creator and what His purpose of mankind is

Brazko

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The words of Christ are Hard teachings, like the teachings of Buddha.. You don't get the message by trying to rationalize everthing literally, I understand this is a Handicap for most Atheist, but in this instance it's pretty obvious the intent of what he is saying...,
 

morgentaler

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Not really. Because half of you claim it's all literal word of god. The other half claims it's all parables.
Nearly half believe that the world is 6000 years old, while slightly more than half reconcile an old earth with biblical teachings.

The weird thing is how there's a discrepancy between the number of Young Earth Creationists, and literal-word believers. Maybe it was just an error in the polls. Otherwise there's people trying to shoehorn two opposing schools of thought into one brain. Major cognitive dissonance.
 

Brazko

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NO, I'm not religious as an REligous church Goer, I can't remember the last time I attended any kind of service.. Oh yeah, it was a Wedding, I called myself a Christian b/c I was raised Christian, but found fault in the Way the Church conducted itself Morally, not the Religion, but the people that called themselves Christian.... However, I'm Human, and everything that is Human, I AM also...
 

Brazko

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Well, obviously a college tuition is a waste of money if you put sunday school ahead of high school.
Mockery, Good For YOu...:clap:, :sleep:


Not really. Because half of you claim it's all literal word of god. The other half claims it's all parables.
Nearly half believe that the world is 6000 years old, while slightly more than half reconcile an old earth with biblical teachings.

The weird thing is how there's a discrepancy between the number of Young Earth Creationists, and literal-word believers. Maybe it was just an error in the polls. Otherwise there's people trying to shoehorn two opposing schools of thought into one brain. Major cognitive dissonance.
It's not what other people think of it, or how they interpet it, It's how you come to interpret the meaning.. Everybody's mind isn't on the same playing field Religious or Atheist... this has become obvious, Higher Education or Not, money can buy anything except for the abiltiy to comprehend the knowledge put before you....
 

Babs34

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Fascism
often capitalizeda political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti)


That definition fits the Vatican TO A TEE!!

Yes, Oregon, that was my point. We keep going over the same ground and getting nowhere.
yeah, fits the vatican to a tee....but not islam.
Do tell more of the distress the vatican is causing you.
BTW, I'm not catholic.
 

Brazko

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the word of G*D is hard to interpret.

Yes, that is why it is Easily manipulated by those who are able to do so, and the Word is effective because it plays into the reality of what a person feels, but can't fully understand...

The Majority of the People are Good, but obviously some people are Not, and without good intentions except to benefit themselves....

That is why you can't attack the REligion as a Whole, you attack the Head, and only by attacking the body of religion, you allow the Head to gain greater control over the Body....if you haven't figured it out, Atheists are part of that body as Well, helps build up the immune system :idea:
 

Babs34

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never said i wasnt bored... but as far as lonely i have you to keep me company for the time being it seems.
but to point out the obvious- you said it yourself in the definition-






uh huh.... not a fascist? i beg to differ. those are your own words
You just try too hard...to no avail do you ever come accross with any logical point.
Islam’s 20-point plan for conquering the United States by 2020

December 1, 2006 — budsimmons
A refugee from the Muslim Middle East thinks he has discovered Islam’s 20-point plan for conquering the United States by 2020 – a plan revealed in the latest issue of Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin.
Anis Shorrosh, author of ”Islam Revealed” and ”The True Furqan,” is a Christian Arab-American who emigrated from Arab-controlled Jerusalem in January 1967.
”The following is my analysis of Islamic invasion of America, the agenda of Islamists and visible methods to take over America by the year 2020,” Shorrosh says. ”Will Americans continue to sleep through this invasion as they did when we were attacked on 9/11?”
1. Terminate America’s freedom of speech by replacing it with statewide and nationwide hate-crime bills.
2. Wage a war of words using black leaders like Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Jesse Jackson and other visible religious personalities who promote Islam as the religion of African-Americans while insisting Christianity is for whites only. What they fail to tell African-Americans is that it was Arab Muslims who captured them and sold them as slaves. In fact, the Arabic word for black and slave is the same, ”Abed.”
3. Engage the American public in dialogues, discussions, debates in colleges, universities, public libraries, radio, TV, churches and mosques on the virtues of Islam. Proclaim how it is historically another religion like Judaism and Christianity with the same monotheistic faith.
4. Nominate Muslim sympathizers to political office to bring about favorable legislation toward Islam and support potential sympathizers by block voting.
5. Take control of as much of Hollywood, the press, TV, radio and the Internet as possible by buying the related corporations or a controlling stock.
6. Yield to the fear of the imminent shut-off of the lifeblood of America – black gold. America’s economy depends on oil and 41 percent of it comes from the Middle East.
7. Yell ”foul, out-of-context, personal interpretation, hate crime, Zionist, un- American, inaccurate interpretation of the Quran” anytime Islam is criticized or the Quran is analyzed in the public arena.
8. Encourage Muslims to penetrate the White House, specifically with Islamists who can articulate a marvelous and peaceful picture of Islam. Acquire government positions and get membership in local school boards. Train Muslims as medical doctors to dominate the medical field, research and pharmaceutical companies. (Ever notice how numerous Muslim doctors in America are, when their countries need them more desperately than America?) Take over the computer industry. Establish Middle Eastern restaurants throughout the U.S. to connect planners of Islamization in a discreet way.
9. Accelerate Islamic demographic growth via:
  • Massive immigration (100,000 annually since 1961).
  • Use no birth control whatsoever – every baby of Muslim parents is automatically a Muslim and cannot choose another religion later.
  • Muslim men must marry American women and Islamize them (10,000 annually). Then divorce them and remarry every five years – since one can’t legally marry four at one time. This is a legal solution in America.
  • Convert angry, alienated black inmates and turn them into militants (so far 2,000 released inmates have joined al-Qaida worldwide). Only a few ‘’sleeper cells” have been captured in Afghanistan and on American soil.
10. Reading, writing, arithmetic and research through the American educational system, mosques and student centers (now 1,500) should be sprinkled with dislike of Jews, evangelical Christians and democracy. There are currently 300 exclusively Muslim schools in the U.S. which teach loyalty to the Quran, not the U.S. Constitution. In January of 2002, Saudi Arabia’s Embassy in Washington mailed 4,500 packets of the Quran and videos promoting Islam to America’s high schools – free of charge. Saudi Arabia would not allow the U.S. to reciprocate.
11. Provide very sizeable monetary Muslim grants to colleges and universities in America to establish ”Centers for Islamic studies” with Muslim directors to promote Islam in higher-education institutions.
12. Let the entire world know through propaganda, speeches, seminars, local and national media that terrorists have hijacked Islam, when in truth, Islam hijacked the terrorists.
13. Appeal to the historically compassionate and sensitive Americans for sympathy and tolerance towards Muslims in America who are portrayed as mainly immigrants from oppressed countries.
14. Nullify America’s sense of security by manipulating the intelligence community with misinformation. Periodically terrorize Americans with reports of impending attacks on bridges, tunnels, water supplies, airports, apartment buildings and malls.
15. Form riots and demonstrations in the prison system demanding Islamic Sharia as the way of life, not America’s justice system.
16. Open numerous charities throughout the U.S., but use the funds to support Islamic terrorism with American dollars.
17. Raise interest in Islam on America’s campuses by insisting freshman take at least one course on Islam.
18. Unify the numerous Muslim lobbies in Washington, mosques, Islamic student centers, educational organizations, magazines and papers by Internet and an annual convention to coordinate plans, propagate the faith and engender news in the media.
19. Send intimidating messages and messengers to the outspoken individuals who are critical of Islam and seek to eliminate them by hook or crook.
20. Applaud Muslims as loyal citizens of the U.S. by spotlighting their voting record as the highest percentage of all minority and ethic groups in America.
Shorrosh is a member of the Oxford Society of Scholars, has traveled in 76 countries, and is a lecturer and producer of TV documentaries. ”Islam Revealed” is a bestseller now in its eighth printing. His forthcoming 10th book, from which the 20-point plan is abridged, is titled ”Islam: A Threat or a Challenge.”
 

Babs34

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Here, I'll answer it for you, :sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep:


It's SARCASM..and he's speaking of the Absurdity of the NOtion of What they have Chosen to Tell,, These days we call them Snitches...RATs, also, a few verses down he says...........


15:10-11 Hear, and Understand: NOt that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man: but that which cometh out of the Mouth, this defileth a Man...

I have REspect for a lot of you that assume the Title of Atheist, you often present your point of view without trying to Mock a Person's belief, although, it's a rarity... The hypocrisy tho' of coming off like OMG, why is BAb being so insulting is like :dunce:, really, come oN, Give me a fucking break, I just have no clue why She's acting that way.. :wall: and you can take it like you wanna, take it how you feel, But it's a Shit Load of Ignorants that continue to defile the Name Atheist..., these are the people you probably could get through to first if you are trying to make the world a better place, Oh, that's not part of the Agenda, Let me take on the entire World of Religion, Right, that's going to make a difference...,
You were the first to post to me on this thread, remember? You immediately jumped all over my shit......and you were way off basis...just as the ones you now defend.
You obviously haven't been keeping up with it to say that. A little kiss-assI presume?
Do I need to play the game being played to me?
Hardly......I've better things to do than to spend hours re-qouting the hypocrisy you just posted about me.
 

Brazko

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yeah, fits the vatican to a tee....but not islam.
Do tell more of the distress the vatican is causing you.
BTW, I'm not catholic.
I don't understand the stance of the whole catholic thing either that I see sometimes discussed, I mean, I do in a sense for what it's worth, but I was in my 20's plus before I knew that Catholics were so called Christians, I didn't even know the Pope was head of the Christian Church, During times I was in service, it was always understood that CHrist was head of the Church, I still don't get how your sins or forgiving every week for telling the priest, or how a person can't get into heaven if they are not born Catholic or Accepted through marriage or something like that :? . Now I do admit I have trouble understanding the whole CAtholic practice, but hey, if it works for them, so be it....
 

Brazko

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You were the first to post to me on this thread, remember? You immediately jumped all over my shit......and you were way off basis...just as the ones you now defend.
You obviously haven't been keeping up with it to say that. A little kiss-assI presume?
Do I need to play the game being played to me?
Hardly......I've better things to do than to spend hours re-qouting the hypocrisy you just posted about me.

yeah, Whatever Babs, I think you are a little Confused....:lol:, Calm down, Have you been drinking....:lol:, have you lost sight in your on slaught of attacks... Calm down and REread, without feeling like you are being attacked....:lol:

and I Am a Big kiss-ass, I love the Booteee :lol:, grrrrrrrrrrr :lol:, I hear you have 1 ;-)

please go ahead quote the hypocrisy :lol:
 

Babs34

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yeah, Whatever Babs, I think you are a little Confused....:lol:, Calm down, Have you been drinking....:lol:, have you lost sight in your on slaught of attacks... Calm down and REread, without feeling like you are being attacked....:lol:

and I Am a Big kiss-ass, I love the Booteee :lol:, grrrrrrrrrrr :lol:,

please go ahead quote the hypocrisy :lol:
Babe, you calm down. I'm going to bed. I could quote it, but you have eyes in which to read........go read for yourself.
 

krustofskie

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Even being born Catholic didn't get you into heaven until recently when the new Pope changed one of the Churches rules. You first have to be baptised and then later confirmed. Then you could have the bread and the blood etc etc. So what this used to mean was that if a young child died before being confirmed, they had to spend there time in purgatory. Because people were outraged by this the pope reversed it and said that all those children's souls who were not confirmed actually went to heaven to appease people.

If you are an adult though who was baptised but never got confirmed, you go to purgatory. Thats were I'm supposed to be going, I'm the only one in my family not confirmed. oh well got to be better than hell.
 

Babs34

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yeah, Whatever Babs, I think you are a little Confused....:lol:, Calm down, Have you been drinking....:lol:, have you lost sight in your on slaught of attacks... Calm down and REread, without feeling like you are being attacked....:lol:

and I Am a Big kiss-ass, I love the Booteee :lol:, grrrrrrrrrrr :lol:, I hear you have 1 ;-)

please go ahead quote the hypocrisy :lol:
LOL@me having a big ass......my size ones fall off of me......see what a prick you are......as if that was even called for.
 

Brazko

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Babe, you calm down. I'm going to bed. I could quote it, but you have eyes in which to read........go read for yourself.
Babs, you ARe Confused, and I'm not going to explain, what is obvious to the people I was talking too, if you cannot re-read it,

you are starting to make them sound Right, not I :-|
 

Brazko

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Even being born Catholic didn't get you into heaven until recently when the new Pope changed one of the Churches rules. You first have to be baptised and then later confirmed. Then you could have the bread and the blood etc etc. So what this used to mean was that if a young child died before being confirmed, they had to spend there time in purgatory. Because people were outraged by this the pope reversed it and said that all those children's souls who were not confirmed actually went to heaven to appease people.

If you are an adult though who was baptised but never got confirmed, you go to purgatory. Thats were I'm supposed to be going, I'm the only one in my family not confirmed. oh well got to be better than hell.

You see, it makes no sense to me, or the philosophy of the Christian religion, where you go to heaven for being Christ like, but don't take my literal explanation as that is what I believe, I'm just stating how we were raised in the Southern BAptist Churches..., however, we accept all people into the Grace of God, the only rule is that you wish to be accepted, atheist, crackhead, murderer, etc. etc..


LOL@me having a big ass......my size ones fall off of me......see what a prick you are......as if that was even called for.
I think I am the one that has been Confused, be nice, Please... or I won't, I'm giving you lee Way because I understand what you have been going through on this Thread, but I don't attach to emotional feelings for long...:neutral:

btw, thongs can exclamate any Ass, thong, th, thong,..thong..thong :lol:
 
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