Proof of the existence of an intelligent Creator and what His purpose of mankind is

NOWitall said:

hahahahahahaha, hey im gonna give another shot at this philosophical debate thing.
ive been reading alot of the other posts, so im going to try and post in the same format.


YOUR WRONG xxxxx. Only I can be correct. The sheer fact you beleive yourself to be correct, only shows how incorrect you are.
when you wrote "INSERT LONG BORING POINTLESS QUOTE HERE". It shows how you totally missed the entire point i was making,
all i was saying is "GROSS GENERALIZATION / OVERSIMPLIFICATION." Do you see what im saying xxxxx?

And how dare you say that my "YYYYY" condones such things as "POINTLESS MIND NUMBIND REINFORCEMENT"
my "YYYYY" teaches us to love others. And as such i am well within my right to "SOMEONE PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY"

And YOU xxxxx, how DARE you impune my "WHINING LIKE A LITTLE GIRL"
And if you were here right now id "SEEKING APPROVAL IN A CHILDLIKE FASHION" the shit out of you.
and for the last damned time "FINAL REINFORCEMENT OF POINTLESS ARGUMENT DIVERTED BY A CHILDLIKE ABILITY TO GET DISTRACTED WHEN PEOPLE OFFEND YOU"

so there you big doo doo head

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lmao, pretty damn much...

PadawanBater said:

lmao, pretty damn much...

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Wait, what are YOU laughing at, you big doo-doo head!

well

i just thought its drifted a bit off topic.

but hey i got a new one we can all fight over.

what about this whole "PURPOSE FOR MANKIND" thing, has that been addressed yet???

ok im throwin my guess in. mankind was created for 2 reasons

1. God/Gods, needed coffee.
2. ultimate reality program.

or if those aren't controversial enough for ya heres something juicier

mankind was created for only one reason

to rape hamsters.


didnt see that comin didja?

NOWitall said:

what about this whole "PURPOSE FOR MANKIND" thing, has that been addressed yet???

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The purpose of mankind is to serve as a vehicle for gene replication.

Actually it's the purpose of all living creatures.

Those genes are taskmasters, damn it.

NOWitall said:

hahahahahahaha, hey im gonna give another shot at this philosophical debate thing.
ive been reading alot of the other posts, so im going to try and post in the same format.


YOUR WRONG xxxxx. Only I can be correct. The sheer fact you beleive yourself to be correct, only shows how incorrect you are.
when you wrote "INSERT LONG BORING POINTLESS QUOTE HERE". It shows how you totally missed the entire point i was making,
all i was saying is "GROSS GENERALIZATION / OVERSIMPLIFICATION." Do you see what im saying xxxxx?

And how dare you say that my "YYYYY" condones such things as "POINTLESS MIND NUMBIND REINFORCEMENT"
my "YYYYY" teaches us to love others. And as such i am well within my right to "SOMEONE PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY"

And YOU xxxxx, how DARE you impune my "WHINING LIKE A LITTLE GIRL"
And if you were here right now id "SEEKING APPROVAL IN A CHILDLIKE FASHION" the shit out of you.
and for the last damned time "FINAL REINFORCEMENT OF POINTLESS ARGUMENT DIVERTED BY A CHILDLIKE ABILITY TO GET DISTRACTED WHEN PEOPLE OFFEND YOU"

so there you big doo doo head

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PadawanBater said:

lmao, pretty damn much...

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Yep, Perfect Sense..., but come on Babs, you're just looking at it with a value derived from a Surface only Skeptical View and Opinion, It goes much, much, much, deeper than That.. Science just has to explain it for you, be patient and wait For science to Explain how Nothing happened...

Atheists believe all kinds of things.
They just share one common lack of belief - gods.

Some athiests believe in anti-vaxxer propaganda. They're nutty too.

Some believe in the power of crystals. Kooks.

Some believe that the world is going to end in 2012 because of a date on a calendar. Absolutely mad.

An atheist who isn't a rationalist is just as likely to believe nonsensical fairy tale stories as a theist.

And a rationalist doesn't presume to know where the universe or multiverse came from. Hypotheses can be made, but absolute knowledge isn't available. (yet).

What you or I consider nothing is very different to an astrophysicist. Nothing is the sum of other values, which can be extracted again.

A mathematical "Nothing" actually makes more sense than a god of desert tribesmen who created a universe just to be a capricious bitch to its inhabitants.

Babs34 said:

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It's funny. Everyone on both sides so far has put effort and thought into what they say.

Except Brazko.

There's a brain in there. Use it. Make your posts interesting instead of empty.

morgentaler said:

It's funny. Everyone on both sides so far has put effort and thought into what they say.

Except Brazko.

There's a brain in there. Use it. Make your posts interesting instead of empty.

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Yeah, I'm a Thoughtless Creature, I prefer to Wait on Science to make a Statement on my behalf...

Brazko said:

Yeah, I'm a Thoughtless Creature, I prefer to Wait on Science to make a Statement on my behalf...

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What's your beef with science exactly?

You use it's applications every single day of your life.

PadawanBater said:

What's your beef with science exactly?

You use it's applications every single day of your life.

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That's An Awesome Observation Paddy, I have beef with Science..

OoOOOOOooo, K....

but let me ask, Why do you Feel, I have beef with Science?

And I'll tell you why you have an illogical Beef with REligion..

but, if I don't reply quickly, and I won't at the Moment, today is Sunday....


FootBall

and if you are basing my beef with the SArcastic remark, I made up there ^^^^^, It was SArcasm...

However, the Statement in itself is True..., to Whom it Applies..

It was a serious question. You seem to acknowledge it when it's suits you, but dismiss it when it contradicts things you believe to be true. How do you justify that?

(this question applies to you too Babs)

PadawanBater said:

It was a serious question. You seem to acknowledge it when it's suits you, but dismiss it when it contradicts things you believe to be true. How do you justify that?

(this question applies to you too Babs)

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Yes, and it was a Serious Reply, I have never Acknowledged or, Dismissed Science for any suited purpose..., You cannot bring forth one statement I have made that Contradicts what I have just said.. If you can, I would Give over to you my life, Everything, HOuse , Car, Job, Wife (you can have her ) whatever of your choosen if you can show me 1 statement where I have dismissed Science or implied it contradictive or favorably to anything towards my belief when I decided to of My chooosen, because honestly, I know of No contradictions, and if I did, I would acknowledge it, Go ahead and Justify it to me, by showing where I have stated such contradictive Verbage, regarding Science...


If it contradicts something I believe, then I must accept the evidence put forth..just as I have accepted the Evidence that has given me my Belief..

I felt you were one of the Solid Logical Thinking Atheists as Well, but stating some idiotic Bullshit and say justify it, when you haven't been Just in your narrow minded observation...

NOw, to be Just in my Observation, You attack People, Not religion, because you hate People that do not think as you do.. They have done you no Wrong, and you cannot presume what they Know of God and How they interpet God to be or the Religion that follows, because you lack the ability and only see God/religion in 1 perspective, Yours.. So instead of attacking the Construct of the defilment of Religion, Politics, and whatever other organized movement, that wishes to degrade the Worth of the Human RAce, It simply comes down to the Individual entities, you attack what you fail to comprehend because you are only observant of a Minute part of civilization that tries to Control and manipulate People, and consumed by something you find absurdely disturbing to human Nature... Guess What address the Person, So instead of Attacking 9.5million people, you have 9.49million people left to go at, plus 1 helping you, you're making progress, and then if you really want to change the world for the Better, take the limitations off of A Group that you fail to identify with, and focus it on the common shit that everybody falls short on.. Greed, Selfishness, Power, or whatever you deem ill of mankind, It's a much, much, bigger selection of those people across the world instead of focusing it on a particular Group because they did evil... Every fucking person in this world has done some wrong, it's not a Organization doing it, It's People, The Person... Address the person..., Instead you say, not literally speaking but to get my point across, (you're fucking stupid and a disgrace to the human race because I read in history and saw a documentary, a group of people doing bad shit) That is the same as Blaming every White Man for Slavery, That is the Same as blaming every German for the Holocaust, you can't put everybody in a category of Evil doing People because you choose only to select what a Group of Indivduals or Individual have done that happens to be black, White, German, Christian, Muslim, or what the fuck ever..

Man, you really disappoint me talking some ignorant shit like that, "you being Serious" "I only justify it to My CAuse or Belief when I want too"..... I thought you were atleast better than That.. but I'm not going to be harsh on you anymore, It's something you have to gain some greater maturity about.... and I apologize now, but that was really short of any thought and disappointing to hear coming from you.... and even if you don't find anything, which I know you are Not, I'm still shipping Her to you.. PM me the Address..

BtW... Krusto, didn't we just finish a Thread, about cheating Death With Science, something I brought Up in discussion to the table... Yeah, I got Beef with Science...

Ever notice that the truly religious don't have an ounce of logic?

CrackerJax said:

Ever notice that the truly religious don't have an ounce of logic?

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Well, if you are asking me, Yes, sometimes they lack a greater balance in their logical thinking, but that doesn't mean they are without logic, just as the same can be said for the Extreme Atheists, they are not without logic, but still fall short of having it... but then again they have to Mature as well, indivdually.. What ever they Choose to call or identify themselves as, but It don't help to pound them further into illogical thinking, That all together defeats the purpose doesn't it, You wanna help them Up, not put them Down.. If you can't say anything to help, Then don't insist of only Smashing them down.. It defeats the purpose.. And if you are implying it to me, I already know I'm a few Sesame Seeds short on the Bun....., that was a Joke, NO really, that was A Joke......,

But, I have stated that also, it's a handicap that the Religious don't use often... Logic and REason, Remember me stating That, Probably Not, Huh?

PadawanBater said:

It was a serious question. You seem to acknowledge it when it's suits you, but dismiss it when it contradicts things you believe to be true. How do you justify that?

(this question applies to you too Babs)

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Every single thing you accuse us believers as applies right back to you.
Neither of us ever stated that Science does not have it's place. What's so hard to understand there?
You acknowledge what suits you. You are SO scared to acknowledge that there is this ONE entity out there so MUCH BIGGER than what you could possibly imagine.
The fact that you are wasting time attempting to prove it shows you are limited in your thinking, while accusing others of the same.
You give no realization to the FACT that Science WILL prove God to your liking one day, but you may or may not be around to witness it.
Science, in FACT, already has been finding "proof".....it's just not ever going to be good enough for you.