religion made it a sin to be naked and to be ashamed of your privates

olylifter420 said:

wow, you take the breath right out of me man, how do you do it?

..........to be so stupid?


dude, what made you become a so called atheist? with what you have shown on here, you clearly do not and probably have not ever studied evolution or anthropology or paleontology.. if you would have ,you would not come up with such stupid questions. I would explain it to you but i see that you are quite the stupid type that will not understand anything of value placed in front of you. I will let your small simpleton mind ponder what i just said so maybe, just maybe some curiosity will spark within your brain and go do your own fucking research....


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lol and all this coming from someone who believes and defends a belief that the world was created a few thousand years ago by a higher being , that now watches and judges your evey move , and punishes you if you dont abide to its obsurd rules lol ......................sorry dude i cant take anything you say with any sincerity .

btw i find it hillarious you call me dumb , you dont need to be very clever to work out wether its likely a god exists or not lol my 6 year old figured that out herself .

of course i can , but i have no interest in entering conversation or ridle solving with you , just to stroke your online ego .

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Your interest should come from wanting to command respect and to be taken seriously. Your posts are seen as disingenuous, because they are. You only want to put effort into fighting and no effort into explaining what you are fighting for. You don't even bother to clarify these things in your own mind, which makes you the equivalent of a bigot. You use atheism as a crutch to gain superior ground with an inferior intellect. You pretend that your words are worth something, but don't go to the trouble of giving them any worth. To you, thinking is a nuisance and you want to skip right to the gratification of being right without having to demonstrate it. This makes you lazy, sloppy and ignorant, which are the very faults you find in believers. You fail your own standards.

lol i dont need your clarification on anything thanks , you mean nothing to me , and like ive said many times i dont invite you to comment on my threads if you dont like them , then dont reply to them , try creating your own threads , you seem like you enjoy ridiculing other peoples threads but im yet to see any interesting threads posted by you heinzburg

I do not need to be invited to comment. As long as you continue to display hypocritical and abusive behavior, you will continue to be put in your place.

lol your the biggest hypocrite on here heinz, ive allready called you out on that one in a big way .
and you are correct you dont need to be invited to comment but dont start thinking im going to answer all your questions and dont even expect to get a response , like i said i have called you out for bing hypocritical and abusive before , ie , calling someone a retarded 5 year old .

ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:

lol your the biggest hypocrite on here heinz, ive allready called you out on that one in a big way .
and you are correct you dont need to be invited to comment but dont start thinking im going to answer all your questions and dont even expect to get a response , like i said i have called you out for bing hypocritical and abusive before , ie , calling someone a retarded 5 year old .

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Your attempts to put me on the defensive are irrelevant. You have proven all I have accused you of in this thread an others with your explanations. You do not care why shame stemming from religious teachings is bad, you care only that it can be used as a stick to poke believers, and you have demonstrated that you're not even sure why it is bad in your head, as you haven't even thought it through to the point of separating it from modesty. Now you will chose a typical avenue to quell the discomfort my words bring by practicing ignorance and pretending they don't matter. You are welcome to ignore all my posts, but even so, intellectual perspective will continue to be represented in your threads.

like i said you are everything that you accuse others of being ,and i have no interest in conversing with you anymore .

So your strategy is "nah nah na boo boo, I don't have to listen to you" and putting your fingers in your ears. I'm sure Hitchens would appreciate that. This is how you respond to challenge, to the simple request that you explain your position. This behavior is indistinguishable from fundamentalists creationists.

ill answer tomorow im going bed now its late here .

of course i can , but i have no interest in entering conversation or ridle solving with you , just to stroke your online ego .

Oh, come on. You've been going back and forth with Heis here, but as soon as he offers a simple challenge, you back down with this weak response. Religious teachings are similar to child abuse in several ways: both are taking advantage of the child's innocence and dependence on adults teaching them about the world in which we live, and right from wrong. Children have an innate drive to obey the authority of adults so they can live past childhood (don't drink bleach, don't step off tall structures, don't eat those berries). If they could question as such, there wouldn't be nearly 7 billions humans on this planet. So, taking advantage of this need to learn and obey for either adults' sexual gratification or to pollute their minds with irrational myth offered as truth is akin to child abuse...

Thanks tyler, that's pretty much what I was looking for, and also that they both amount to fascist behavior modification.

And of course in anticipation of Hep, it's worth mentioning that I grew up with believers in a house which took a cavalier approach to nudity. We are talking here about strict religious adherence, the kind the church prays for.

ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:

lol i dont need your clarification on anything thanks , you mean nothing to me , and like ive said many times i dont invite you to comment on my threads if you dont like them , then dont reply to them , try creating your own threads , you seem like you enjoy ridiculing other peoples threads but im yet to see any interesting threads posted by you heinzburg

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if he meant nothing to you why respond to him? you do know atheists find you to be a huge joke on here, maybe you should reconsider your stance and beliefs, it might help you out...

ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:

lol and all this coming from someone who believes and defends a belief that the world was created a few thousand years ago by a higher being , that now watches and judges your evey move , and punishes you if you dont abide to its obsurd rules lol ......................sorry dude i cant take anything you say with any sincerity .

haha, nice strawman fallacy dude, i never said anything you just said... keep making yourself a target, it is funner that way on here... you claim to be an atheist, yet you do not understand the simplest of things that should come easy to an atheist, evolution. and who said anything you have shared on here was taken serious by ANYONE?

btw i find it hillarious you call me dumb , you dont need to be very clever to work out wether its likely a god exists or not lol my 6 year old figured that out herself .

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wow, you have a child? i feel sorry for it having to be raised by a backboneless dude whose sole purpose on this earth is to "bash religious belief" !!! like if you were any good at that, lol

ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:

lol your the biggest hypocrite on here heinz, ive allready called you out on that one in a big way .
and you are correct you dont need to be invited to comment but dont start thinking im going to answer all your questions and dont even expect to get a response , like i said i have called you out for bing hypocritical and abusive before , ie , calling someone a retarded 5 year old .

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who cares if heis is hypocrite, he owns up to it and apologizes for it, you on the other hand, have nothing good to say ever and expect to be taken serious... lol
and you expect people to respond to you when you dont do shit in return... you are a loser man... little bitch is all you are...

ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:

like i said you are everything that you accuse others of being ,and i have no interest in conversing with you anymore .

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in other words, "heis, your intellect is way beyond my comprehension and as such, i do not wish to continue feeling dumb and stupid for the things i say, as i do not own up to my own actions, so please, quit picking on my lack of intelligence"

ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:

ill answer tomorow im going bed now its late here .

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in other words, "im telling my mum cause you dont play fair"

c'mon man, answer the question?

olylifter420 said:

yeah, all of that, thats why religious nuts do not breath... lol

the one making them taboo is you cause you dislike religion..


why is it that you dont see SMART atheists making STUPID threads like this?

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olylifter420 said:

by that, then you are a troll too.

Im a chill dude, just dont go spewing atheist hate around me, i dont like it.

Would you just let people talk shit about the things you believe in and take it?



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You can let people know that you have beliefs different to theirs without being dismissive or offensive.
And if someone is being offensive and dismissive of your belief you could be the bigger man so to speak and not by offensive back to them.

Just because i'm an atheist, it doesn't mean i'd like to be called an atheist, the word is hollow to me even though it has alot behind it. My position is that every religion is wrong, by a matter of its own structure and inability to be questioned. regardless of the beliefs of said religion. I dont appreciate stupidity unless its something to be laughed at, and therefore i laugh at religion because i see it as a pathetic attempt to make individuals into drones and slaves, all its good for is a good laugh anyway. religion doesn't work that way anymore because too many like minded, almost "atheist minded" or "freethinker" individuals pushed back religion into some nearly harmless form where people believe bunnies can lay eggs and virgins can be impregnated, so if you believe these things too, don't be offended, i will laugh at you though... just get used to it. I consider myself someone who is a materialist, and such i dont believe in the metaphysical. idea's are not even metaphysical since they are controlled by synapses in the brain and the brain itself.



i've said it before, religion's brainwash people, becoming an atheist is the exact opposite of that kind of thinking, its freeing yourself. if you are too ignorant to see that, then it just proves my point. atheism is a position one takes, or a rejection to an idea(gods existence) and it is not a religion like you would like to believe Oly

So you read lugers sig and now you think you cool?

Your type of thinking boils down to marxism man, you are fucked up you know.

Go ahead, be a bigot, i dont care, each man to himself right?

I will continue to laugh at you for thinking you are some special higher level thinker like zs. Lol

olylifter420 said:

So you read lugers sig and now you think you cool?

Your type of thinking boils down to marxism man, you are fucked up you know.

Go ahead, be a bigot, i dont care, each man to himself right?

I will continue to laugh at you for thinking you are some special higher level thinker like zs. Lol

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actually, i liked some of what marx had to say, i think his teachings became something else, like jesus's teachings were. but whatever, you are someone who can't even defend his own beliefs let alone tell anyone what they are, all you say is that you are a "Believer" as if that matters in anyway... you can't win an argument against somebody who doesn't know how to argue in the first place. thanks for the rebuke, i needed that. but comparing me to ZS is like a slap in the face to both of us, i just explained to you what i believed, im a materialist. look up what that means before you claim to understand or compare me to somebody else.




let me ask you something,

does evidence convince you to change your beliefs or do you believe simply because you are a "believer", because you sound like you are brainwashed.

TSH, You share the same idea with that "upcoming Hitler" I made a thread about LOL.

Heisenberg said:

Your attempts to put me on the defensive are irrelevant. You have proven all I have accused you of in this thread an others with your explanations. You do not care why shame stemming from religious teachings is bad, you care only that it can be used as a stick to poke believers, and you have demonstrated that you're not even sure why it is bad in your head, as you haven't even thought it through to the point of separating it from modesty. Now you will chose a typical avenue to quell the discomfort my words bring by practicing ignorance and pretending they don't matter. You are welcome to ignore all my posts, but even so, intellectual perspective will continue to be represented in your threads.

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actually you couldnt be more wrong there sunshine , if you care to skip back a few pages of this sub forum you will find a whole thread that I STARTED about how religious teaching to children is a form of child abuse and the problems it causes to children growing up with all the negative teachings about shame etc .
and if you wernt so hung up with stroking others egos on here, you would realise its only oliver and hepatitus that get the 'stupid treatment ' from me , as ive exhausted all discussion with them in the past , its pointless flogging a dead horse .So as they slowly resorted to personal insults against me instead of inteligent discussion ,(as you can observe them doing with others on here all the time ) i retaliated with the same .i dont care if you think that makes me as bad , your opinion of me is not relevent , we share a veiw about the lack of belief in religion , and thats about it .