Removing fan leaves during flowering

the church man · Mar 23, 2014

@neo

We may as well continue our discussion in private. That way the entire community can see our method and benefit. But wait, private messages can't be seen by others, which is why this discussion would ideally be located in the public part of the forum!

But if we try to discuss anything in public, then the thread gets run down by the same people.

Rollitup isn't what it used to be...

chuck estevez · Mar 23, 2014

the church man said:
@neo

We may as well continue our discussion in private. That way the entire community can se

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I was wondering who the "we" was neo keeps talking about. Makes perfect sense now. Yeah, Take that nonsense to pm's. WE would appreciate it.

neo12345 · Mar 23, 2014

I give up Chuck, you're not able to hold an adult conversation so I'm going back to ignoring you again. You insult me, and at the same time ask me to give you a lesson in defoliating cannabis.

Bye Chuck, keep on WINNING!!

the church man · Mar 23, 2014

Debate in a public forum often ends in frustration and ad hominem attacks...

Chuck I can see you're frustrated but why don't you just shut your mouth and allow a discussion that you don't agree with to take place?

I mean shit, are you saying that you don't have the self control to see something that you don't agree with happening on the internet and just let it be?

the church man · Mar 23, 2014

@neo

Its like he's sticking his fingers in his ears and sticking the tongue out at the teacher and he and his friends think he's so cool...

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chuck estevez · Mar 23, 2014

I asked a simple question to a simple claim and he chooses to ignore it, Fuck you both, answer the question.

airmarkes · Mar 23, 2014

I'm just a noob and I came here to learn but there is only fights.. so..
I'm gonna state what my intuition tells me about defoliation by observation only..
As a young plant, be defoliated doesn't seem to decrease growth a lot, actually it seems to increase, since the plant exchange the energy to new 'nodes'.. so after 1 or 2 days stunted, it comes back vigorously and 'bushier'.. You dont want to cut down all your leaves, though.. '-'
However, in flower, as an adult plant which spend all its energy to produce buds, I don't see why cut the source of energy or 'factory' of sugars which it has build all its life...

chuck estevez · Mar 23, 2014

airmarkes said:
I'm just a noob and I came here to learn but there is only fights.. so..
I'm gonna state what my intuition tells me about defoliation by observation only..
As a young plant, be defoliated doesn't seem to decrease growth a lot, actually it seems to increase, since the plant exchange the energy to new 'nodes'.. so after 1 or 2 days stunted, it comes back vigorously and 'bushier'.. You dont want to cut down all your leaves, though.. '-'
However, in flower, as an adult plant which spend all its energy to produce buds, I don't see why cut the source of energy or 'factory' of sugars which it has build all its life...

If this were true, then in neo's study, his defoliated plant would be shorter and bushier than the non raped one. YET, the red one is taller than the blue. DO you know why?

the church man · Mar 23, 2014

airmarkes said:
I'm just a noob and I came here to learn but there is only fights..

I know, its hard to read through the bullshit. Then of course I became involved and now I'm part of the bullshit... It seems that the cycle continues ad nauseam

chuck estevez · Mar 23, 2014

[video=youtube;f4zyjLyBp64]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4zyjLyBp64[/video]

the church man · Mar 23, 2014

chuck estevez said:
if defoliation is suppose to make a smaller denser more compact plant, How come red is taller than blue???

That is a great question chuck. It really is. Maybe if we were able to have proper discourse and throw in some scientific method into the mix we could figure that out, instead of having 7/10 posts per page being attacks on certain users...

I'd like to know the answer to the question just as much as you would

the church man · Mar 23, 2014

And BTW, the plant that had been defoliated could very well be more dense and have tighter nodes and still be taller.

chuck estevez · Mar 23, 2014

the church man said:
That is a great question chuck. It really is. Maybe if we were able to have proper discourse and throw in some scientific method into the mix we could figure that out, instead of having 7/10 posts per page being attacks on certain users...

I'd like to know the answer to the question just as much as you would

I know the answer, i have been asking NEO to answer it for like 10 pages. The answer was posted a few pages back.

neo12345 · Mar 23, 2014

the church man said:
@neo

We may as well continue our discussion in private. That way the entire community can see our method and benefit. But wait, private messages can't be seen by others, which is why this discussion would ideally be located in the public part of the forum!

But if we try to discuss anything in public, then the thread gets run down by the same people.

Rollitup isn't what it used to be...

I didn't realise when I joined this forum a few months ago that the subject of defoliation was informally banned, and that this practice of deliberately destroying threads by flinging personal abuse was allowed.

If you ignore Chuck's noise for a moment you will hear the deafening silence of the defolihaters, who have gone very quiet since the introduction of pictures showing evidence of increased growth after defoliation.

I've just offered evidence which flies in the face of what the textbooks say should happen, but we're not even allowed to talk about it.

chuck estevez · Mar 23, 2014

and yet again< you ignore the question< answer the question neo

the church man · Mar 23, 2014

@chuck, take your own advice

chuck estevez said:
Quit being fuckin babies and whining about stuff.

@neo, do have more pics of those plants that you posted earlier? I'd like to see how they're doing if you don't mind. thanks

bird mcbride · Mar 23, 2014

Don't worry. The majority of these newbies will defoliate their plants anyway by dumping too much fertilizer on them. And as for Chuck, he can't try anything because he doesn't have a mj plant to try it with. One seed can grow an untold amount of weed.

chuck estevez · Mar 23, 2014

bird mcbride said:
Don't worry. The majority of these newbies will defoliate their plants anyway by dumping too much fertilizer on them. And as for Chuck, he can't try anything because he doesn't have a mj plant to try it with. One seed can grow an untold amount of weed.

That's funny coming from the guy who treats his MJ plants like roses being sold on the corner. Do you sell oranges too?

chuck estevez · Mar 23, 2014

the church man said:
@chuck, take your own advice

@neo, do have more pics of those plants that you posted earlier? I'd like to see how they're doing if you don't mind. thanks

I keep asking a question that you people refuse to answer, Fuck off or answer the question.

bird mcbride · Mar 23, 2014

chuck estevez said:
That's funny coming from the guy who treats his MJ plants like roses being sold on the corner. Do you sell oranges too?

I don't got any orange's Chuck but I got orange bud

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