Report: Obama administration knew millions wouldn't be able to keep insurance

it matters not..premiums are subject to the 80/20 rule..


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healthcare spending will grow 5.8% per year in the net 10 years.

what i learned at devryU, by touchperp:


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changing the claim from what health care costs have done to what they might do is textbook goalpost repositioning.

well done, kiddo.
 
yes, yes.

get called out on your lies, change the subject when you have no defense.

i am so sorry that health care plans change every single year, but good luck on your questo to make people believe that this year, it is a harbinger of the sky falling.

you lying little douche.


Wow. I work in healthcare, i understand we re-up every year. Did you understand that when making the argument you could keep your plan and was just being dishonest? or are you just now learning this and were just ignorant and incompetent back then?

BTW, I asked a polite question about your stance on chemical weapons in Libya, care to weigh in on that? I see that question really touched a nerve with you, wanna talk about it? Sometimes it helps to talk about it man.
 
Wow. I work in healthcare, i understand we re-up every year.

then why is it the end of the world this year, but it wasn't at this time last year during open enrollment?

i sense growing desperation from you and your fellow "sky is falling" imbecile friends.
 

what i learned at devryU, by touchperp:


Moving-The-Goalposts.jpg


changing the claim from what health care costs have done to what they might do is textbook goalpost repositioning.

well done, kiddo.

You ignored the second post (for some reason I don't seem to be able to edit any of my posts). Let me reproduce it for you:

""Obama’s claim on the historically low growth rates for health costs is true, according to the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation and CMS data. National health spending grew by 3.9 percent from 2009 through 2011, and near 4 percent in 2012; it’s projected to grow at a similar rate through 2013. Those are the lowest rates since the government started keeping track in 1960."

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-health-costs/."
 
then why is it the end of the world this year, but it wasn't at this time last year during open enrollment?

i sense growing desperation from you and your fellow "sky is falling" imbecile friends.

Well, I'll let you slide since you didn't know me back then but we were laughing at that "if you like your plan you can keep it" before the bill was signed.

I'm not the one who claimed we needed ACA because costs were skyrocketing then argue that the ACA isn't increasing costs because they've been steady for decades.

Are you ever going to give your opinion on Libya yet? you've had plenty of time to google what Obama thinks this week by now.
 
I'm not the one who claimed we needed ACA because costs were skyrocketing then argue that the ACA isn't increasing costs because they've been steady for decades.

when did i say costs have been steady for decades? i was quite clear in my statements. you, however, have chosen to lie instead.

liar liar. color me not surprised.
 
devryU really needs to step up its tech department.

Ignoring the substance of the post? This is what you said: "but in the last 3 years, health care costs have grown at the same rate as the economy, our expenditures represent the same percentage of the economy that htey have for three years. they've been steady." and "not many people woiuld cherrypick stats from one single company without citation and keep repeating the claim as if it were the only data point."

According to CMS: "National health spending grew by 3.9 percent from 2009 through 2011, and near 4 percent in 2012; it’s projected to grow at a similar rate through 2013." And then healthcare costs will grow 5.8% per year for the next 10 years after 2013!

Are you ready to stop repeating your bullshit claim yet? You demanded the data and the government's data says that you are 100% wrong.
 
when did i say costs have been steady for decades? i was quite clear in my statements. you, however, have chosen to lie instead.

liar liar. color me not surprised.

Yep, i just re-read your post and owe you an apology. I promise I misread it and did not misrepresent on purpose. I'm thankful you are not actually that stupid. Toke just showed your stance was wrong, but it's not at all what I thought you were claiming.
 
a dubious claim at best, considering that move is the top one in your repertoire.

wtf dude? why is being such a dick enjoyable to you? Every time I've done that while hyperposting I've owned it and apologized, something you have yet to do even once that I can recall. If you keep doing what you are doing you are going to run everyone off. It's not much fun for normal people to sit on the internet and call people names, I don't really understand the pleasure you get from it, but that's your business, it's just odd.

Besides, the VAST majority of people here understand that when you resort to name calling, you've conceded the debate. You are becoming a laughingstock here and that's a shame, you used to bring value.
 
Bet him a 1000 dollars

Why didn"t you bet me dipshit? I even offered to send to escrow first. I even offered to let Buck cover half for you and he wouldn't take it because you are so full of shit. Why on earth would a sane person bring this up and refresh in everyone's mind how much a liar you are? Oh that's right, you are not sane.

Good news, ACA covers mental conditions like yours.
 
You ignored the second post (for some reason I don't seem to be able to edit any of my posts). Let me reproduce it for you:

""Obama’s claim on the historically low growth rates for health costs is true, according to the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation and CMS data. National health spending grew by 3.9 percent from 2009 through 2011, and near 4 percent in 2012; it’s projected to grow at a similar rate through 2013. Those are the lowest rates since the government started keeping track in 1960."

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-health-costs/."

you are on probationary lockdown if you can't edit your posts..
 
wtf dude? why is being such a dick enjoyable to you? Every time I've done that while hyperposting I've owned it and apologized, something you have yet to do even once that I can recall. If you keep doing what you are doing you are going to run everyone off. It's not much fun for normal people to sit on the internet and call people names, I don't really understand the pleasure you get from it, but that's your business, it's just odd.

Besides, the VAST majority of people here understand that when you resort to name calling, you've conceded the debate. You are becoming a laughingstock here and that's a shame, you used to bring value.

i would have accepted your apology had that been a simple isolated incident.

but that is your main move.

for example, my statement that "i want to end the achievement gap" has been perverted by you into statements that you concoct, such as "blacks are helpless and need special help!".

i'm not follish enough to believe it was just a simple mistake....yet again.
 
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