Root gel and some experiments

eza82

eza82

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panhead said:
I want to join in very badly but i dont have the space,that dutchmasters grow took up all the space in my rooms :wall:.

This will be my last run with Top44 & Big Bud for a while because my wife says they are not strong enough for her,myself i think both strains are just fine but as her pain levels grow from her MS she needs a heavier hitting buzz,im replacing them with the KC Brains strain KC36,She wants something thats as strong as the Critical Mass that ive been growing for her in another room, hopefully the KC36 is the ticket for her.

Unfortunately i have to wait till i harvest all the dutchmasters plants,then clean & paint the entire room as well as decontaminate all the lighting & ventilation system to get rid of all the pollen, then i can get another grow going with the KC36,i'll be trying to replicate the moose grow with the KC36 grow thats going to be comming up next round.

It sucks,i wanna have fun too :-(
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All good..... You guys are coming into summer soon ????? So maybey Tomatoes and chills are good TEST subjects in a outside greenhouse?????????
 
HOHO

HOHO

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i found a match on the Take Root 0.1 IBA and will dose Chloe 11 and 12 tomorrow with 1 Tbls each and will keep looking for IAA in the area. whats the highest i should let the ph be? i don't have that ph7 stuff...
 
HOHO

HOHO

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i'm also doing an experiment with uvb on half my garden...
and i decided to make there milk tonite so there were no surprises...lil over 7 ph
 
panhead

panhead

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HOHO said:
i found a match on the Take Root 0.1 IBA and will dose Chloe 11 and 12 tomorrow with 1 Tbls each and will keep looking for IAA in the area. whats the highest i should let the ph be? i don't have that ph7 stuff...
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I cant imagine letting it get too much higher than 7.5 at the max.

Wallmart or any pet store like petco sells ph stabilizer 7.0 for around $3.
 
HOHO

HOHO

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its a dark green but mixed with milk,its kinda hard to tell for sure i'd say they be ok...i'll prolly call around and see about stabilizer..i'll make sure its not over 7.5......one feeding should be ok a little high..
 
HOHO

HOHO

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i went back through and read to make sure that i had my facts straight..there must be some haters in charge of photo dump!!:evil:
to get rid of that pic of all pics!! i just dont understand?
the one that u dosed right at harvest,what happened to that? can you remember
 
HOHO

HOHO

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i have decided to backout on this experiment...i think we need someone with more experience to take charge of this one,and seeing that panhead has already started this i think we should let it rest until he's ready:wink:
 
genfranco

genfranco

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HOHO said:
i have decided to backout on this experiment...i think we need someone with more experience to take charge of this one,and seeing that panhead has already started this i think we should let it rest until he's ready:wink:
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you must be french, right?

bongsmilie
 
panhead

panhead

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OneHit said:
Hmm, just heard about the thread. So to summerize, what happens when you put the hormone on?
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Its not that simple,no quick answers to this subject,your going to have to read the thread to get answers,its too complicated to summarize.
 
omnombudsman

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I just wanted to add that I have done experiments on cuttings with 16,000 ppm IBA; it's weird, they start growing more adventitious roots than I have ever seen. Literally growing roots up the entire length of the stem.
 
panhead

panhead

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omnombudsman said:
I just wanted to add that I have done experiments on cuttings with 16,000 ppm IBA; it's weird, they start growing more adventitious roots than I have ever seen. Literally growing roots up the entire length of the stem.
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How far up the stalk did the roots travel ?

I treated some seedlings back when fdd first started this experiment & i had a few of them where the roots came out of the soil,well not out of the soil really but where the base of the stalk met the soil the stalk had root growth above the soil layer directly on the exposed stalk,very strange to look at.
 
omnombudsman

omnombudsman

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It varies on how "woody" the cutting is, but some had roots up past the 2nd node. I was under the impression that such a high ppm would just kill them.
 
multisonic

multisonic

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This thread was VERY interesting to read. I have 5 seedlings that just broke yesterday and about 20 clones and 1 randomly planted sprout that just got it's 2nd set of leaves. Plus a bunch of plants in flower too. I'm tempted to do some weirdo experiments just like you all have done with them ll across the board. I don't think I want to mess with my 2 god mums though. Awesome Read!
 
K

Kahlouah

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This thread has got me thinking on some crazy ways to mess with root tech muahah.

Hey Panhead how the moose doing?
i was reading up on some ways to increase ones yield, i read in one of my books by mel thomas that one can trigger Polyploidy, which is a genetic mutation that can create abnormally high yields due to lots of continual defoliation. Its saying that one could also induce polyploidy chemically using colchicine, but its toxic.
maybe you might have triggered something crazy eh eh :) or it could have been in the gel yah never know haha. idk just some info i wanted to trow out if anyone was interested.
 
eza82

eza82

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HOHO,
Howz thing champ ??? I have been off line for a few weeks moving building all that sorta shit.....
What are you doing to your ladies dude ?? Ive only caught a bit of it ??? Milk IAA IBA ???
Give us a summary... listing everything you have done with each ??
Are you havin any problems ????
Are you useing the GA3 or BEN-6 ??
 
eza82

eza82

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IAA & IBA : are both part of the auxin family that promotes cell division and cell expansion.. either lateral or horizontially..... inturn creating roots on contact with 80% pure form if buried and promotes stem and veg in a feed.
In the Agriculture biz they use a HORMONE called NAA... or commonly known by us stoners in a format known as LA FEMME... ive got a thread on it.
This is close to IAA & IBA as in that they all come from the same family AUXINS...
Plants only have a few different types with many sub categories.
I dont think IAA & IBA is effective as feed UNLESS you hit the timing right. Where NAA is proven at the turn between veg and flower.
IAA moves in one direction only—that is, the movement is polar and, in this case, downward in roots it is acropetal. Wher as NAA is apical dominante or movements are up , used for fruiting etc....
Look up the Gibberellin & Cytokinin family........ these hormones will probably get the results your looking for in radical growth rates etc... as in GA3, ben-6, BRASSINOLIDE, etc

When hormones are naturally created in plants........

Auxin would be released when a root or shoot cell finds that it contains more than enough shoot derived nutrients mainly sugar, and all other environmental conditions are favorable for growth.
Cytokinin would be made when cells are bathed in more than enough nutrients of the sort normally provided by the root, mainly water and minerals and all other conditions are favorable for growth.
Conversely Gibberellin/Brassinostreroid would be made when mature cells have less than enough shoot nutrients, i.e. sugar and Oxygen to survive especially if environmental conditions are poor.
Finally Ethylene might be released when mature cells are receiving less than enough nutrients normally received from the roots, mainly minerals and water, to support life at all, thus senescence of the cell is warranted. Again this effect may be accentuated by poor environmental conditions.
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doctorgreeneggsandham

doctorgreeneggsandham

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eza82 said:
IAA & IBA : are both part of the auxin family that promotes cell division and cell expansion.. either lateral or horizontially..... inturn creating roots on contact with 80% pure form if buried and promotes stem and veg in a feed.
In the Agriculture biz they use a HORMONE called NAA... or commonly known by us stoners in a format known as LA FEMME... ive got a thread on it.
This is close to IAA & IBA as in that they all come from the same family AUXINS...
Plants only have a few different types with many sub categories.
I dont think IAA & IBA is effective as feed UNLESS you hit the timing right. Where NAA is proven at the turn between veg and flower.
IAA moves in one direction only—that is, the movement is polar and, in this case, downward in roots it is acropetal. Wher as NAA is apical dominante or movements are up , used for fruiting etc....
Look up the Gibberellin & Cytokinin family........ these hormones will probably get the results your looking for in radical growth rates etc... as in GA3, ben-6, BRASSINOLIDE, etc

When hormones are naturally created in plants........

Auxin would be released when a root or shoot cell finds that it contains more than enough shoot derived nutrients mainly sugar, and all other environmental conditions are favorable for growth.
Cytokinin would be made when cells are bathed in more than enough nutrients of the sort normally provided by the root, mainly water and minerals and all other conditions are favorable for growth.
Conversely Gibberellin/Brassinostreroid would be made when mature cells have less than enough shoot nutrients, i.e. sugar and Oxygen to survive especially if environmental conditions are poor.
Finally Ethylene might be released when mature cells are receiving less than enough nutrients normally received from the roots, mainly minerals and water, to support life at all, thus senescence of the cell is warranted. Again this effect may be accentuated by poor environmental conditions.
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I am doing this!!! Actually already did. here is a picture or two. it just hit a light a few mins ago tho so its kinda fucked up. It'll be ok i think tho
 
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