GandalfdaGreen
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You rock Bigby. They look beautiful.
Sannies Jack and Shackzilla - organic grow.
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Bigby
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Ha ha - thanks guys! Means a lot. Loving developing my skills along with all you great RIU members and these great Sannies genetics.
I have big hopes for all of the girls - so healthy. They're all flowering properly now at day 12 of 12/12 - all girls and only girls (as should be expected). No signs of resin yet, which I'm happy about. Hoping for all sativa dominant this run (this Sugar Punch has a stone too it to go with the sativa that is so so strong, need something more functional lol). The later the better for resin appearance based on that - I want at least one 13 week flower girl. Will be switching the main HID lamp over to a 600W HPS tomorrow, this should speed the appearance of resin.
The two Shackzilla seem very similar phenos, but with subtle differences. Will tell more in a couple of weeks. Four proper colas and other equal height tops on both - the leaves surrounding the cola tops are huge, like big vivid green sunflowers ready to soak up lumens.
Will certainly need to be employing my home made (and criticized by a hater) heavy duty stakes once stretching has finished.
The two Jacks look like quite different phenotypes. Clearly smaller and less vigorous plants than the Shackzilla, will be interesting to see if the five pack brings any bigger plants on future grows. Both look to be Indica dominant hybrids to me. Indica in the leaf shape, with a sativa influence in the long thin branches. They are both still stretching, will be interesting to see how long this goes on for. Had a mate grow a 'Sensi Seeds' Jack and she stretched for 4 weeks and had to be trained around a grow space - was funny, and left me wary of the 6 weeks veg I gave these. They will certainly remain manageable for height but I wonder if they will still grow another foot, maybe 16 inches - I will employ the pipe cleaners if they look like they will, open up the 'middles' and strengthen the tops prior to full booming.
Anyone popping in here with previous Jack Herer growing experience? Are Indica looking plants the norm?
I have big hopes for all of the girls - so healthy. They're all flowering properly now at day 12 of 12/12 - all girls and only girls (as should be expected). No signs of resin yet, which I'm happy about. Hoping for all sativa dominant this run (this Sugar Punch has a stone too it to go with the sativa that is so so strong, need something more functional lol). The later the better for resin appearance based on that - I want at least one 13 week flower girl. Will be switching the main HID lamp over to a 600W HPS tomorrow, this should speed the appearance of resin.
The two Shackzilla seem very similar phenos, but with subtle differences. Will tell more in a couple of weeks. Four proper colas and other equal height tops on both - the leaves surrounding the cola tops are huge, like big vivid green sunflowers ready to soak up lumens.
Will certainly need to be employing my home made (and criticized by a hater) heavy duty stakes once stretching has finished. The two Jacks look like quite different phenotypes. Clearly smaller and less vigorous plants than the Shackzilla, will be interesting to see if the five pack brings any bigger plants on future grows. Both look to be Indica dominant hybrids to me. Indica in the leaf shape, with a sativa influence in the long thin branches. They are both still stretching, will be interesting to see how long this goes on for. Had a mate grow a 'Sensi Seeds' Jack and she stretched for 4 weeks and had to be trained around a grow space - was funny, and left me wary of the 6 weeks veg I gave these. They will certainly remain manageable for height but I wonder if they will still grow another foot, maybe 16 inches - I will employ the pipe cleaners if they look like they will, open up the 'middles' and strengthen the tops prior to full booming.
Anyone popping in here with previous Jack Herer growing experience? Are Indica looking plants the norm?
Bigby
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Some new pictures from today - day 13 of 12/12. Switched the main light over to a 600W HPS, and changed the 125W CFL over to a blue spectrum one. One of the Jacks has almost caught up with the Shacks, the other is still a little shorter.
Shackzilla 1
Shackzilla 2
Jack 1
Jack 2
Shackzilla 1
Shackzilla 2
Jack 1
Jack 2
glockdoc
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the jacks look like nice hybrids eh?!? i like 1 better because it looks like its going to a bush. but 2 looks like its going to get huge quick. which one is taller?
u got the sativa dominance u wanted with that shackzilla thou! how r they growing? shack 1 looks like its going to christmas tree out more then 2 would but u never know!
what u aiming for yield wise?
u got the sativa dominance u wanted with that shackzilla thou! how r they growing? shack 1 looks like its going to christmas tree out more then 2 would but u never know!
what u aiming for yield wise?
Bigby
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Yeah man, the Jacks look more hybrid, though they are looking a little more sat dom now in structure. I think the reason for one looking more bushy is partly my training with the pipe cleaner and weight. Now I've removed that for a few days they both look pretty similar again structure wise.
Both the Shacks are just huge. Easily 3ft+ tall now with big spear branches - thick and long. I'll measure properly when stretching stops, they are still reaching for lights at the moment. Certainly more sativa in them than the Sugar Punch (and the Jacks by the looks of it). I could easily imagine both Shacks pulling over 5oz. Will need support having seen the size those buds can get, which I will provide, should end up with four big long fat running colas on both backed up with other tops.
Bigby
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Clear difference between the two Shack phenos now. One is still stretching whilst the other has set herself quite a bit shorter. From the structure of the shorter one I am hoping for the super silver haze influenced flowers I just saw in the Sugar Punch I grew. The other is likely to be a tall hazey lady (something I love).
The two Jacks have started looking very alike again. Maybe even the same pheno. Will take some comparison pics on Monday.
And no, never supercropped - not even 100% sure what the technique is. Is it the one where you squeeze out the top? That sort of technique feels too destructive to me (being an old hippy lol). I prefer the training, more gentle and less invasive. The girls are in 20 litre pots.
The two Jacks have started looking very alike again. Maybe even the same pheno. Will take some comparison pics on Monday.
And no, never supercropped - not even 100% sure what the technique is. Is it the one where you squeeze out the top? That sort of technique feels too destructive to me (being an old hippy lol). I prefer the training, more gentle and less invasive. The girls are in 20 litre pots.
glockdoc
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looking forward to seeing what they look like when they are done.!!
maybe the jacks are IBL. thats a good thing imo
my buddy swears by it but hes in hydro... i as well feel the same about the slight harming of the plants, the 1 sour blueberry plant i lst'd definitely will yield more then the ones that i didnt lst
great growth too btw for being in only 5 gallons. are they airpots?
maybe the jacks are IBL. thats a good thing imo
my buddy swears by it but hes in hydro... i as well feel the same about the slight harming of the plants, the 1 sour blueberry plant i lst'd definitely will yield more then the ones that i didnt lst
great growth too btw for being in only 5 gallons. are they airpots?
imcjayt
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how u finding the bioblizz bro?.....doing organic meself...well bioblizz n coco.....day 35...View attachment 2727421View attachment 2727422
imcjayt
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cheers man...
Bigby
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Been a bit slack updating. One of my pet rats died at the weekend. 
Very glad all my green girls are alive and healthy still. Clearly four different phenos in the flower tent now. Two different Shackzilla phenotypes, and two different Jacks. One of the Shacks is a tall stretchy mild citrus/floral haze, the other a shorter more Shiva influenced pheno darker hashier quality to the resin scent. Both the Jacks look similar, but one is clearly more hazey. The hazier pheno has still not started producing resin at day 22 of 12/12, but has big long hairs and already large flower sites, masses of sativa potential in this one. The other Jack has started producing resin - tons of it!!! All over the main stems! As well as the shade leaves, the sugar leaves are literally sugared. And the smell!!! Strong jasmine influenced mixed citrus haze. This one will smell amazing burnt, I can tell already. Both Jacks have thin sativa blade leaves now in the flower clusters. I will update with some pictures of them all tomorrow - I think there will be a striking difference from the last ones, like 1.5ft height increase and massive flower shape development.
Very glad all my green girls are alive and healthy still. Clearly four different phenos in the flower tent now. Two different Shackzilla phenotypes, and two different Jacks. One of the Shacks is a tall stretchy mild citrus/floral haze, the other a shorter more Shiva influenced pheno darker hashier quality to the resin scent. Both the Jacks look similar, but one is clearly more hazey. The hazier pheno has still not started producing resin at day 22 of 12/12, but has big long hairs and already large flower sites, masses of sativa potential in this one. The other Jack has started producing resin - tons of it!!! All over the main stems! As well as the shade leaves, the sugar leaves are literally sugared. And the smell!!! Strong jasmine influenced mixed citrus haze. This one will smell amazing burnt, I can tell already. Both Jacks have thin sativa blade leaves now in the flower clusters. I will update with some pictures of them all tomorrow - I think there will be a striking difference from the last ones, like 1.5ft height increase and massive flower shape development.
Bigby
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Right, the update. Pictures of all the girls from today - day 22 of 12/12. All are getting 30ml of 'Grow' 30ml of 'Bloom' 10ml of 'Alg A Mic' and 10ml of 'Cal/Mag' in 10 litres of water each feed. No signs of nutrient burn, I might even up the doses just a little due to the new growth being slightly pale, but this isn't a problem, just me trying to be precise.
The first of the Jacks. Calling her Sativa Jack. She's just a little stretchier than her sister, with proper thin blade leaves. Still no real resin production on her either, though there are signs it is starting. She will be the longest flowering plant of this batch I'm sure.
And the other Jack. Calling her 'Carry On Jack' (after the cute blonde girl who pretends to be Bernard Cribbens in the film of that name lol). Such pretty structure to her flower development - have seen it before in a green Killing Fields pheno (and a long flower Mad Shack), but that was a borderline mutant, this one is healthy is hell. Such a delightful smell to her, jasmine citrus haze, and strong.
First of the Shackzillas. Calling her Tall Hazey Shack (had a Tall Hazey Lady Sugar Punch in my last grow). Big tall proud girl this one. Gonna be a super yielder with huge colas. Smell is very similar to Carry On Jack, but far milder and more subtle.
And the second Shackzilla. Calling her Shiva Shack, as she has a decidedly hashier quality to her resin aroma. Shorter bushier plant this one, although she still looks sativa dominant. Again she looks like being a quality yielder - 4oz+ I would guess.
Starting to get to the exciting part of the grow now. Next few weeks should see some more fun and games as the colas and tops take on their shapes and start to fatten.
The first of the Jacks. Calling her Sativa Jack. She's just a little stretchier than her sister, with proper thin blade leaves. Still no real resin production on her either, though there are signs it is starting. She will be the longest flowering plant of this batch I'm sure.
And the other Jack. Calling her 'Carry On Jack' (after the cute blonde girl who pretends to be Bernard Cribbens in the film of that name lol). Such pretty structure to her flower development - have seen it before in a green Killing Fields pheno (and a long flower Mad Shack), but that was a borderline mutant, this one is healthy is hell. Such a delightful smell to her, jasmine citrus haze, and strong.
First of the Shackzillas. Calling her Tall Hazey Shack (had a Tall Hazey Lady Sugar Punch in my last grow). Big tall proud girl this one. Gonna be a super yielder with huge colas. Smell is very similar to Carry On Jack, but far milder and more subtle.
And the second Shackzilla. Calling her Shiva Shack, as she has a decidedly hashier quality to her resin aroma. Shorter bushier plant this one, although she still looks sativa dominant. Again she looks like being a quality yielder - 4oz+ I would guess.
Starting to get to the exciting part of the grow now. Next few weeks should see some more fun and games as the colas and tops take on their shapes and start to fatten.
GandalfdaGreen
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Damn they are the picture of health. Amazing.
Bigby
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Thanks fellas - kind words appreciated.
Having had a little look around it would seem the Shacks can be a little unhealthy if not given optimum conditions. I think the 'CalMag' and the 'Alg a Mic' are the main beneficial elements here - but they also clearly need their nutrients. I read a grow report on 'Opengrow' where someone was saying "don't give them bio bizz nutrients in flower" in response to someone with severely yellowing leaves and evident necrosis. I won't link to the thread, but will address this issue right here. Shackzilla needs its nutrients, right through the life of the plant! Gauge the doses based on the signs from the plant, not some standard law that applies to the growing of every strain (can't believe how much respect was shown to such useless information in that thread but ho hum, not my problem).
Having had a little look around it would seem the Shacks can be a little unhealthy if not given optimum conditions. I think the 'CalMag' and the 'Alg a Mic' are the main beneficial elements here - but they also clearly need their nutrients. I read a grow report on 'Opengrow' where someone was saying "don't give them bio bizz nutrients in flower" in response to someone with severely yellowing leaves and evident necrosis. I won't link to the thread, but will address this issue right here. Shackzilla needs its nutrients, right through the life of the plant! Gauge the doses based on the signs from the plant, not some standard law that applies to the growing of every strain (can't believe how much respect was shown to such useless information in that thread but ho hum, not my problem).